Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

[Nomad1]

That cat is delusional. ..Pac alone outsold his whole label..All eyes was the hottest album out that year period. .that show you how yoing he is trying say that shaq shyt was hottest shyt out..hotter than ambitionz? Cali love? Hitem up or fukk it even the fugees shyt got mad burn

bruh you can't win with these oink oink stans. He'll just come and say "bububub AEOM was a double disked album".

 

[Bigsuk]

i really dont understand some of you guys...crying saying biggie shouldve told pac...but he actually did tell him to stop fukking with them dudes they no good...but what does pac do? run to the dudes that big warned him about and told them biggies said not to fukk with you guys...what kind of shyt is that? you nikkas really condone pac snitching on big then get mad cause big didnt wear a bullet proof vest and jump in front of pac to stop him from getting shot? you guys are really slow man...

Thing about that is if true then yes pac was full ov shyt .. But the only nikka i seen say bigge was robbed due to pac runnin back to them saying dont fukk with them was lil shawn ... Do we have any more sources that say that other then lil shawn ??

 

[Roovers410]

Don't be so disgenous. I'll have to re-watch that part of the doc but Greg Kading's doc is absolutely credible and is more factual than Russel Poole's theory and that other cac that wrote a book about the government killing Pac.

And you guys are exposing your lack of medical knowledge. People have survived gunshots to the head, some went into coma and woke up, some survived and were fine in the next few days, weeks, and months.

I always tought Greg Kading was right with his theory...but there are allot (sometimes unimportant) of flaws in his theory.

Look at the docu...allot of things are only backed by 1 source... (Keeffe D. theresa swan) ..

His theory is not solid. I understand why Lapd did not bring his case to court

 

[Roovers410]

That cat is delusional. ..Pac alone outsold his whole label..All eyes was the hottest album out that year period. .that show you how yoing he is trying say that shaq shyt was hottest shyt out..hotter than ambitionz? Cali love? Hitem up or fukk it even the fugees shyt got mad burn

96 was pac's year. No doubt!

But Lad Nwo and Harlem World would have done pretty good in 97 regardless..

Only Hiphop artist from both camps falling of in 96 was Snoop

 

[Bigsuk]

In your opinion...

And others that were actully there or involoved ....

 

[Bigsuk]

This nikka gets it...its all there...Pac explains what happened and what his motivation is...shyt aint no mystery...you got a idiot talking bout if he was shot in the head he would be dead..people get shot in the head and have lived..he wont the first or the last...

I said either either dead or in a coma , u mean to tell me pac got shot in the head 2 x and somehow was able to make it to court litrally hours later that next morning .....just with a bandage wrapped around his head yeah right

 

[Nomad1]

I always tought Greg Kading was right with his theory...but there are allot (sometimes unimportant) of flaws in his theory.

Look at the docu...allot of things are only backed by 1 source... (Keeffe D. theresa swan) ..

His theory is not solid. I understand why Lapd did not bring his case to court

You guys are being disingenuous tho. Of course Keeffe D and Swan are central to his theory, they both had involvements in Pac and Biggie's death. I honestly don't need a Keeffe D confession, I know Orlando killed Pac, but Swan had the paperworks and evidence (for example the car that Poochie drove matched the car that shot up Biggie) that showed Suge was involved. Plus thanks to Lil Cease and other Bad Boy affiliates snitching, we know that the SSCC was deep in their relationship with Bad Boy.

LAPD and LVPD did not want the case to be solved because they never cared for both people who were anti-cop and the people involved are all dead or in jail. It's that simple.

 

[Roovers410]

You guys are being disingenuous tho. Of course Keeffe D and Swan are central to his theory, they both had involvements in Pac and Biggie's death. I honestly don't need a Keeffe D confession, I know Orlando killed Pac, but Swan had the paperworks and evidence (for example the car that Poochie drove matched the car that shot up Biggie) that showed Suge was involved. Plus thanks to Lil Cease and other Bad Boy affiliates snitching, we know that the SSCC was deep in their relationship with Bad Boy.

LAPD and LVPD did not want the case to be solved because they never cared for both people who were anti-cop and the people involved are all dead or in jail. It's that simple.

I'm not talking Orlando killing Pac. I'm talking Puff ordering a Hit (no way this would hold in court)
I'm talking Suge hiring Pooch (no way this would hold in court)

 

[Nomad1]

I said either either dead or in a coma , u mean to tell me pac got shot in the head 2 x and somehow was able to make it to court litrally hours later that next morning .....just with a bandage wrapped around his head yeah right

But this has happened to people a lot, gun shots to the head doesn't mean someone will immediately die. It depends how much the bullet penetration was. There were enter and exit wounds to Pac's head, but they were most likely artificial wounds. But then again, it would be nice to actually read what the Doctors thought (the ones who actually performed surgery on Pac).

 

[Bigsuk]

I always tought Greg Kading was right with his theory...but there are allot (sometimes unimportant) of flaws in his theory.

Look at the docu...allot of things are only backed by 1 source... (Keeffe D. theresa swan) ..

His theory is not solid. I understand why Lapd did not bring his case to court

Wasnt just them 2 , sscc informants said the same aswell as lil rod from ftp who was cool with poochie at somepoint though monkey man said poochie kiiled biggie ...

 

[Bigsuk]

But this has happened to people a lot, gun shots to the head doesn't mean someone will immediately die. It depends how much the bullet penetration was. There were enter and exit wounds to Pac's head, but they were most likely artificial wounds. But then again, it would be nice to actually read what the Doctors thought (the ones who actually performed surgery on Pac).

True ... Only thing greg said was he spoke to him and said he wasnt convinced he was shot in the head and wasnt shot 5x

 

[Renzo]

I said either either dead or in a coma , u mean to tell me pac got shot in the head 2 x and somehow was able to make it to court litrally hours later that next morning .....just with a bandage wrapped around his head yeah right

Yeah i mean to tell you that...you act like its something miraculous and unheard of..people have shot themselves in the face with shotguns and lived famo..this real life..not the movies..

 

[Nomad1]

I'm not talking Orlando killing Pac. I'm talking Puff ordering a Hit (no way this would hold in court)
I'm talking Suge hiring Pooch (no way this would hold in court)

Puffy hung out with the SSCC and paid them for security. They happened to also been beef with the Piru set, Puffy ordering a hit on Pac and Suge would not be surprising since that moron already put a hit on DR chains (according to Napolean). I have to re-watch the doc but I believe they had a lot more evidence on the Swan involvement then just "words".

anyway, you bad boy stans can convince each other that Puffy is innocent, I don't care. In the end the LAPD did not want the case solved, they only wanted Kading to clear their name from Biggie's death so Mrs. Wallace's civil suit could be thrown outta court, which it did.

Kading has even posted more evidence on the Makaveli Board, word to @Bigsuk. I believe his theory more than anyone else.

 

[Roovers410]

Puffy hung out with the SSCC and paid them for security. They happened to also been beef with the Piru set, Puffy ordering a hit on Pac and Suge would not be surprising since that moron already put a hit on DR chains (according to Napolean). I have to re-watch the doc but I believe they had a lot more evidence on the Swan involvement then just "words".

anyway, you bad boy stans can convince each other that Puffy is innocent, I don't care. In the end the LAPD did not want the case solved, they only wanted Kading to clear their name from Biggie's death so Mrs. Wallace's civil suit would be thrown outta court.

Kading has even posted more evidence on the Makaveli Board, word to @Bigsuk. I believe his theory more than anyone else.

I'm not trying to make this in a bad boy vs Dr bashing discussion. Just look at it from a factual perspective. The docu is cool..(and it's probably 85% correct)..but to have a slam dunk in court..you need a lot more than this.

Just imagine (they have no defence statements from puff or suge) Puff pulling a 100 million lawyer squad trying to discredit the Greg Kading theory. It would be easy.

 

[Renzo]

96 was pac's year. No doubt!

But Lad Nwo and Harlem World would have done pretty good in 97 regardless..

Only Hiphop artist from both camps falling of in 96 was Snoop

You wont get no argument there..if it was keptstrictly competition..they wouldve upped the creativity... ..we wouldve ate good from both camps ...97 wouldve been the year to see who really ran shyt and bad boy wouldve had a hell of run to compete with, Pac was lining up some shyt too...i aint one these haters..i only speak on what i know...im a fan of both camps...i just happen to believe Pac was telling the truth...a dude dont go in as hard as he was for no reason...you can tell from what he saying he really believed he was set up..alot the shyt we know now we didnt know then....so it looked like he was bugged out...Pac wont just goin at biggie...he aint need the record sales..he was always a bigger star than biggie, na they really had real beef, if it was some record shyt neither would be dead now...biggie did himself in..Deathrow was more out there and brazen with their shyt...bad boy was doing they shyt on the low..you dont plot to kill nikkas unless they a threat..