Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

[premier58]

Bottomline, Pac was a hypocrite loudmouth. He was the one who self admittedly was obsessed with gangsters, tried to be down, got disrespectful, then got spanked. If he wouldve accepted the L and kept it moving, he would still be here. Yet he chose to exacerbate a situation that he brought on himself..

 

[kingofnyc]

Don't be so disgenous. I'll have to re-watch that part of the doc but Greg Kading's doc is absolutely credible and is more factual than Russel Poole's theory and that other cac that wrote a book about the government killing Pac.

And you guys are exposing your lack of medical knowledge. People have survived gunshots to the head, some went into coma and woke up, some survived and were fine in the next few days, weeks, and months.

breh

we disagree on plenty of shyt same thing @spliz @Renzo but this is getting a bit ridiculous yall actually believe he got shot in the head and not just once but twice and was able to leave the hospital a few hours later in the morning


come on..... yall nikkaz are too smart for this shyt

 

[Bigsuk]

Bottomline, Pac was a hypocrite loudmouth. He was the one who self admittedly was obsessed with gangsters, tried to be down, got disrespectful, then got spanked. If he wouldve accepted the L and kept it moving, he would still be here. Yet he chose to exacerbate a situation that he brought on himself..

This is kinda true , even money bee said pac was " infactued by street nikkas / gangsters " n yeah i wish pac would have stayed in his lane ... Because he had a promising future .... With suge i think he felt he had to be loyal to him n the bloods but theres ways ov been loyal to a crew without making yourself a target to be shot or shot at its a shame pac never seemed to grasp that n look what happend

 

[Bigsuk]

breh

we disagree on plenty of shyt same thing @spliz @Renzo but this is getting a bit ridiculous yall actually believe he got shot in the head and not just once but twice and was able to leave the hospital a few hours later in the morning


come on..... yall nikkaz are too smart for this shyt

Not just be able to leave the hospital but show up in court as well ..... Like i said not everyone dies from headshots but he would be taking alot more time to recover n not been just stuck in a wheelchair n talking had he been shot in the head 2x .... As far as the 94 shooting i have said this a million times he was saving face ...... Pac seemed to have to much ov an ego n couldnt just take his L .. It wasnt anyone elses fault not puffy not biggie not stretch the man in the mirror for talking to a nikka who had a lot ov clout in the streets like a punk .. To me pac due to him been somewhat ov a voice for the black youth at times felt he was something special n thought he wouldn get touched but nikkas dont give a fukk you get disrespectful there is repercussions ......like i said love pacs music n some ov the shyt he stood for but other times he just didnt seem to grasp his actions which were constantly getting him into drama....

 

[WaveGang]

Above post is facts

 

[spliz]

breh

we disagree on plenty of shyt same thing @spliz @Renzo but this is getting a bit ridiculous yall actually believe he got shot in the head and not just once but twice and was able to leave the hospital a few hours later in the morning


come on..... yall nikkaz are too smart for this shyt

I only mentioned him being grazed by the bullets. Not actually shot in the head n shyt. Lol.

 

[spliz]

so u gonna just keep on lying to yourself

prodigy got his info from
e money bags - stretch best friend
majesty -stretch brother
and stretch himself


at second info

I respect Money Bags word cause that's was my people's fam. I mean it is what it is at this point. Prodigy said he ain't know what to believe until Jimmy came out himself and said he set Pac up. Prodigy's thing was Pac been knew who did it and blamed Biggie n them to sell records. But Pac was on record saying who he felt did it and what his beef wit Biggie was so that shyt wasn't really a revelation. It ain't like Pac hid it. I honestly think eventually Pac would've patched shyt up wit Biggie. Puffy is another story tho.

 

[Bigsuk]

I respect Money Bags word cause that's was my people's fam. I mean it is what it is at this point. Prodigy said he ain't know what to believe until Jimmy came out himself and said he set Pac up. Prodigy's thing was Pac been knew who did it and blamed Biggie n them to sell records. But Pac was on record saying who he felt did it and what his beef wit Biggie was so that shyt wasn't really a revelation. It ain't like Pac hid it. I honestly think eventually Pac would've patched shyt up wit Biggie. Puffy is another story tho.

But the thing is ... Pac kinda flipflopped in different interviews as to why he was going at biggie ..... Do i think the beef was fake like p was saying no not completly anyway .... Do i think it was as real as some nikkas make it out to be again no .... I think there was some loyalty beef- issus between pac n big but pac knew what he was doing tho constantly attackin biggie n puffy ..... Like i said its clear wen he first got on deathrow he was uneasy about going directly at jimmy n them cause ov the clout they had ... But later down the line wen mob basically had pacs back to the fullest n pac got more comfortable thats wen he focused more on puffy n all the ny gangsters , shame it took pac near the end ov his life to really realise big was kinda just in a difficult situation in the actul beef .... Pacs money still wasnt right before he died .... Maybe by 97 it would have been then he could actullly go to war with the nikkas who actully set him up .... As far as the tupac vs biggie tho .. As long as suge and puffy were in the backgrounds ov both artists it was never going to be sqaushed .... Puffys vs suges beef was the real beef in all this suge was not gona stop til he got his revenge for big jakes death .... N pac been loyal to suge was riding with what suge was doing ....... But to be honest both artists would be there own man present times ... I think they would be how ja rule n 50 cent are not friends but it is what it is....

 

[spliz]

But the thing is ... Pac kinda flipflopped in different interviews as to why he was going at biggie ..... Do i think the beef was fake like p was saying no not completly anyway .... Do i think it was as real as some nikkas make it out to be again no .... I think there was some loyalty beef- issus between pac n big but pac knew what he was doing tho constantly attackin biggie n puffy ..... Like i said its clear wen he first got on deathrow he was uneasy about going directly at jimmy n them cause ov the clout they had ... But later down the line wen mob basically had pacs back to the fullest n pac got more comfortable thats wen he focused more on puffy n all the ny gangsters , shame it took pac near the end ov his life to really realise big was kinda just in a difficult situation in the actul beef .... Pacs money still wasnt right before he died .... Maybe by 97 it would have been then he could actullly go to war with the nikkas who actully set him up .... As far as the tupac vs biggie tho .. As long as suge and puffy were in the backgrounds ov both artists it was never going to be sqaushed .... Puffys vs suges beef was the real beef in all this suge was not gona stop til he got his revenge for big jakes death .... N pac been loyal to suge was riding with what suge was doing ....... But to be honest both artists would be there own man present times ... I think they would be how ja rule n 50 cent are not friends but it is what it is....

Difference is Ja and 50 was never friends. I think Pac had genuine love for Biggie and I feel like towards the end he was tryna make amends with alot of people on the east coast. U could tell the difference in tone where he came at Biggie during the Makaveli era. He was more tight at puffy than Biggie. He was still clownin but it wasn't brutal like before.

 

[inndaskKy]

To me pac due to him been somewhat ov a voice for the black youth at times felt he was something special n thought he wouldn get touched but nikkas dont give a fukk you get disrespectful there is repercussions ......like i said love pacs music n some ov the shyt he stood for but other times he just didnt seem to grasp his actions which were constantly getting him into drama....

You left out the part about why he was being disrespectful in the first place. What people forget is that there had been tensions between Pac and these cats for months prior to the shooting. Nowadays people talk like the shooting was completely unrelated to the rape case but it wasn't. Pac felt that the rape case was suspicious and had come out and said as much. He knew that they were not happy about that and that Jimmy Henchman ran in those circles too. He was very apprehensive about hanging out around them since then and only did it because he desperately needed the money because of the major costs of his trial. Henchman wasn't being very cooperative as far as helping Pac out with the money (hence the disrespect 'cause he felt Jimmy was just taking advantage of his situation). Pac was already a little on his guard coming to Quad that night but when he saw Lil Cease he was somewhat relieved. Then the robbery happens.

You can't really evaluate 2pac's actions and his interpretation of those events separately from the rape case. And if the rape case really was a set-up, then how can people really come out and say something simple like 'Pac got caught up in some street shyt and was out of his element'?

Another thing that never really gets mentioned: Pac's own account of the shooting also is that he thought he only got shot once. Him sticking to the five shots part comes strictly from the doctors telling him that and him running with it. Stretch himself says there were several shots. How can we be sure some of those didn't graze Pac's head in addition to the pistol whipping/kicking? How could Pac be?

stretch & dexter tell the same mutherfukken story, shyt is identical - you cant possibly have 2 different nikkaz that dont know each other say the same shyt roughly 2 decades apart

No, their stories don't match up. Dexter says they didn't bust shots and that Pac only shot himself once. Stretch says there were several shots.

 

[Bigsuk]

You left out the part about why he was being disrespectful in the first place. What people forget is that there had been tensions between Pac and these cats for months prior to the shooting. Nowadays people talk like the shooting was completely unrelated to the rape case but it wasn't. Pac felt that the rape case was suspicious and had come out and said as much. He knew that they were not happy about that and that Jimmy Henchman ran in those circles too. He was very apprehensive about hanging out around them since then and only did it because he desperately needed the money because of the major costs of his trial. Henchman wasn't being very cooperative as far as helping Pac out with the money (hence the disrespect 'cause he felt Jimmy was just taking advantage of his situation). Pac was already a little on his guard coming to Quad that night but when he saw Lil Cease he was somewhat relieved. Then the robbery happens.

You can't really evaluate 2pac's actions and his interpretation of those events separately from the rape case. And if the rape case really was a set-up, then how can people really come out and say something simple like 'Pac got caught up in some street shyt and was out of his element'?

Another thing that never really gets mentioned: Pac's own account of the shooting also is that he thought he only got shot once. Him sticking to the five shots part comes strictly from the doctors telling him that and him running with it. Stretch himself says there were several shots. How can we be sure some of those didn't graze Pac's head in addition to the pistol whipping/kicking? How could Pac be?




No, their stories don't match up. Dexter says they didn't bust shots and that Pac only shot himself once. Stretch says there were several shots.

It had nothing to do with the rape- case thats something pac said with no evidence to back it up .... From all accounts pac got set-up cause he wanted cash instead ov a cheque off henchman and wen henchman said he was gona give pac a cheque he started screaming over the phone cursing him out ... Pac didnt have a clue how much clout henchman had n thought he could talk to anyone anyway he thought he could with no repercussions, stretch never said that aswell in vibe he said " personally i never heard 3-4-5 shots that night " same as in this tape ...

 

[Bigsuk]

You left out the part about why he was being disrespectful in the first place. What people forget is that there had been tensions between Pac and these cats for months prior to the shooting. Nowadays people talk like the shooting was completely unrelated to the rape case but it wasn't. Pac felt that the rape case was suspicious and had come out and said as much. He knew that they were not happy about that and that Jimmy Henchman ran in those circles too. He was very apprehensive about hanging out around them since then and only did it because he desperately needed the money because of the major costs of his trial. Henchman wasn't being very cooperative as far as helping Pac out with the money (hence the disrespect 'cause he felt Jimmy was just taking advantage of his situation). Pac was already a little on his guard coming to Quad that night but when he saw Lil Cease he was somewhat relieved. Then the robbery happens.

You can't really evaluate 2pac's actions and his interpretation of those events separately from the rape case. And if the rape case really was a set-up, then how can people really come out and say something simple like 'Pac got caught up in some street shyt and was out of his element'?

Another thing that never really gets mentioned: Pac's own account of the shooting also is that he thought he only got shot once. Him sticking to the five shots part comes strictly from the doctors telling him that and him running with it. Stretch himself says there were several shots. How can we be sure some of those didn't graze Pac's head in addition to the pistol whipping/kicking? How could Pac be?




No, their stories don't match up. Dexter says they didn't bust shots and that Pac only shot himself once. Stretch says there were several shots.

It had nothing to do with the rape- case thats something pac said with no evidence to back it up .... From all accounts pac got set-up cause he wanted cash instead ov a cheque off henchman and wen henchman said he was gona give pac a cheque he started screaming over the phone cursing him out ... Pac didnt have a clue how much clout henchman had n thought he could talk to anyone anyway he thought he could with no repercussions, stretch never said that aswell in vibe he said " personally i never heard 3-4-5 shots that night " same as in this tape ...

 

[Bigsuk]

So whats everyones opinion then truthfully ?? Aside from the debatable 5shots do nikkas think pac shot himself in the groin ?? , was pac right to fall out with stretch ?? , did he have a good enough reason to go hard at biggie for loyalty issues. ??? Whats yall thoughts ??

 

[spliz]

It had nothing to do with the rape- case thats something pac said with no evidence to back it up .... From all accounts pac got set-up cause he wanted cash instead ov a cheque off henchman and wen henchman said he was gona give pac a cheque he started screaming over the phone cursing him out ... Pac didnt have a clue how much clout henchman had n thought he could talk to anyone anyway he thought he could with no repercussions, stretch never said that aswell in vibe he said " personally i never heard 3-4-5 shots that night " same as in this tape ...

Nah there was people who was helping Pac wit the case at the time that felt the shyt was funny and suspicious. Them nikkas was grimey and informants and Pac knew and even said as much while he was alive. He def felt all that shyt was connected. shyt even Dexter Isaac called Jimmy n them informants.

 

[Renzo]

This is kinda true , even money bee said pac was " infactued by street nikkas / gangsters " n yeah i wish pac would have stayed in his lane ... Because he had a promising future .... With suge i think he felt he had to be loyal to him n the bloods but theres ways ov been loyal to a crew without making yourself a target to be shot or shot at its a shame pac never seemed to grasp that n look what happend

What is with you nikkas man? Most nikkas in the streets is infatuated with street nikkas or street shyt in general. ..wtf...that wont exclusive to Pac...nikkas die every day regardless if you the toughest nikka on the block or not..if dudes want get you they goin get you and your stripes or lack there of aint goin mean shyt..nikkas dont give a fukk..a nikka bein "real" or not only matter to squares who never been out there like that and can only comment from the sidelines..