Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

[Ronnie Lott]

another great post !!!!

the problem is that these Tupac stans don't want to realize that the man was a goddamn liar most of that shyt he put out was bullshyt
jimmy extorting puff big and bad boy was just non sense - I attempted to articulate and explain to these nikkaz but is just a waste of time because Tupac is there a God and everything he said and did had to be right to dem no matter how ridiculous

the fact of the matter on puff either related to or extremely close to 'wolf' and 'zip' would tell anybody with an ounce of street cred that no way was puff getting extorted

it was a lie :about puff getting extorted
same lie when he said :puff wanted to sign him(pac) away from interspoce
same lie when he said :biggie hated puff and was going to sign his(pac) thug life label

yet these nikkaz dont even believe one of pac closes/dearest freind that claimed this thug pac shyt was all an act called him a method actor that took it too far

Bro you can not be objective at all. You've proven your east coast/biggie bias over the years

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I said either either dead or in a coma , u mean to tell me pac got shot in the head 2 x and somehow was able to make it to court litrally hours later that next morning .....just with a bandage wrapped around his head yeah right

Suge got shot/grazed in the head in the Vegas shooting and walked away

 

[Bigsuk]

another great post !!!!

the problem is that these Tupac stans don't want to realize that the man was a goddamn liar most of that shyt he put out was bullshyt
jimmy extorting puff big and bad boy was just non sense - I attempted to articulate and explain to these nikkaz but is just a waste of time because Tupac is there a God and everything he said and did had to be right to dem no matter how ridiculous

the fact of the matter on puff either related to or extremely close to 'wolf' and 'zip' would tell anybody with an ounce of street cred that no way was puff getting extorted

it was a lie :about puff getting extorted
same lie when he said :puff wanted to sign him(pac) away from interspoce
same lie when he said :biggie hated puff and was going to sign his(pac) thug life label

yet these nikkaz dont even believe one of pac closes/dearest freind that claimed this thug pac shyt was all an act called him a method actor that took it too far

As a fan ov both artists i try to say there is fault on both sides but i agree on some shyt u said ... Ive researched everything to the tee about the whole situation and even dexter said in his book pac was throwing out a bunch ov acusations without anything to back it up the fact in my opinion to why 80 % ov his fans beileve everything he said was due to how articulte how charismatic and much ov a great talker he was pacs a very convincing nikka ... But nikkas got to do they own research n some ov the shyt pac was Saying just doesnt add up ....... And at times he flipflopped in different interviews to the point it was difficult to keep up with shyt......... I said this a million times i dont consider any rapper the " realest" its corny to me , i hate wen nikkas say rappers are the "realest" cause none ov them are they all do some real shyt mixed into some entertainment shyt none ov them are 100 % authentic ... And the only rapper that the " realest " gets throwing around is pac most the time Which isnt true ... Pac was a great artist had an promising future in rap and acting but how he gets that title ov " the realest" is beyond me he did some ov the same shyt what nikkas get called out for in present times

 

[Bigsuk]

Suge got shot/grazed in the head in the Vegas shooting and walked away

And he still had to stay in hospital fully over night for 1 scrapped bullet to remove bullet fragments from his skull , it wasnt a direct point blank range shot like the not 1 but 2 shots that were meant to have hit tupac , he didnt even stay a full night in hospital he checked himself out HOURS later .... But he got shot 5x including 2 x in the head .. Yea ok

 

[Ronnie Lott]

And he still had to stay in hospital fully over night for 1 scrapped bullet to remove bullet fragments from his skull , it wasnt a direct point blank range shot like the not 1 but 2 shots that were meant to have hit tupac , he didnt even stay a full night in hospital he checked himself out HOURS later .... But he got shot 5x including 2 x in the head .. Yea ok

So you agree that you can survive a head shot/graze then

Are you from the east coast

 

[Ronnie Lott]

As a fan ov both artists i try to say there is fault on both sides but i agree on some shyt u said ... Ive researched everything to the tee about the whole situation and even dexter said in his book pac was throwing out a bunch ov acusations without anything to back it up the fact in my opinion to why 80 % ov his fans beileve everything he said was due to how articulte how charismatic and much ov a great talker he was pacs a very convincing nikka ... But nikkas got to do they own research n some ov the shyt pac was Saying just doesnt add up ....... And at times he flipflopped in different interviews to the point it was difficult to keep up with shyt......... I said this a million times i dont consider any rapper the " realest" its corny to me , i hate wen nikkas say rappers are the "realest" cause none ov them are they all do some real shyt mixed into some entertainment shyt none ov them are 100 % authentic ... And the only rapper that the " realest " gets throwing around is pac most the time Which isnt true ... Pac was a great artist had an promising future in rap and acting but how he gets that title ov " the realest" is beyond me he did some ov the same shyt what nikkas get called out for in present times

Pac is called the realest by millions of people. No rapper has a story like his

 

[Bigsuk]

Bro you can not be objective at all. You've proven your east coast/biggie bias over the years

To be fair am a fan ov both artists aand i prefer pacs music anyday over biggies but as a person a seperate that from there music ...u must admit pac did throw acusations out there didnt really provide evidence and it spread like wild fire .... And there was no turning back ... Biggie should have told puffy not to put out "who shot ya " after pac was shot the timing was bad and i can see how nikkas think it was a jab ... But to me that was puffy himself trying to bring some sales in with the attention they all thought pac was done n dusted .... Another thing biggie shoudnt have gone on the radio acting an idiot saying " newyork stand up " especially wen street nikkas are listening thats been recklesss both artists had alot ov responsibility and didnt use it wisely at times ..... But pac shouldnt have been saying everyone set him in vibe that is reckless as hell

 

[Bigsuk]

So you agree that you can survive a head shot/graze then

Are you from the east coast

Ogrinally yes i dont live there nomore ....thats beside the point ... I already stated a bunch ov times am more ov a fan ov pac and deathrows music then badboys .... And go back and read my posts from pervious pages .. I said some nikkas dont die but if someone was shot point blank range more then 1 x they wouldnt be checking themselfs out within hours ... Suge got scrapped by a bullet he was in hospital over night getting fragments removed n that wasnt even point blank range ...

 

[Bigsuk]

Pac is called the realest by millions of people. No rapper has a story like his

Refine "realest " ?? Pacs background it self is questionable ... Hows he then"realest" ?? nikkas just say that cause it sounds cool ..

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Refine "realest " ?? Pacs background it self is questionable ... Hows he then"realest" ?? nikkas just say that cause it sounds cool ..

Is that a serious question?

 

[Bigsuk]

Millions say pacs the realest because they beileve every word that came out his mouth .... 1s who aint bias can see alot ov the shyt he did though talk or actions doesnt make sense ..pac was real on certain shyt other shyt he was just plan saving face or straight up lying about ... Honest had he lived another 5 - 10 years litrally the nikkas who call him "realest would start seening not everything pac said was truth ... He would be on some radio or talk show saying sorry about how wrong he was for his actions n some ov the shyt he was saying .... Like i said he wasnt a fake but to give him this realest title is laughable ... 50 cent is realer then pac as far as his background and upbringin and who he is today ....

 

[Bigsuk]

Is that a serious question?

Am waiting .... What makes pac the realest .. And other rappers who came from poor enviorments or street backgrounds not ?? ... Pac grew up poor militant- panther wise .... Went to arts school , did ballet , became a backup dancer , in his year 20s began pushing that he was a thug/ crip afflaite , got set-up , went to prison , came out and started claiming and repping a compton piru gang all ov this is fact how is that not a questionable background .... If any other rapper did this today they would be getting called out for it ... Pac was wild, had heart and was loyal but compare his background to 50 cents for example they just dont compare.....

 

[inndaskKy]

It had nothing to do with the rape- case thats something pac said with no evidence to back it up .... From all accounts pac got set-up cause he wanted cash instead ov a cheque off henchman and wen henchman said he was gona give pac a cheque he started screaming over the phone cursing him out ... Pac didnt have a clue how much clout henchman had n thought he could talk to anyone anyway he thought he could with no repercussions, stretch never said that aswell in vibe he said " personally i never heard 3-4-5 shots that night " same as in this tape ...

Dexter Isaac says they knew exactly what jewelry Pac would be wearing and how much each item was worth because Haitian Jack was with him when he bought it. Henchman and Haitian Jack must have talked it over then. Jack and Tut probably complained to Henchman before on how Pac was talking about them and then when Pac talked to Jimmy the way he did, he was fed up with him a lot quicker. Henchman, Jack, and Tut all knew each other. The decision that Pac needed to be disciplined was probably heavily influenced by their past history with him. Again, he had fallen out with these people months prior. There was a reason why Pac was so impatient with Jimmy Henchman. Of course Jimmy Henchman isn't gonna tell the whole history to Dexter Isaac if he really set the whole thing up in only a matter of a few hours.

And he still had to stay in hospital fully over night for 1 scrapped bullet to remove bullet fragments from his skull , it wasnt a direct point blank range shot like the not 1 but 2 shots that were meant to have hit tupac , he didnt even stay a full night in hospital he checked himself out HOURS later .... But he got shot 5x including 2 x in the head .. Yea ok

Pac was in surgery for his wounds though. And he checked out against doctors' orders, meaning they felt that he needed to stay longer to recover.

 

[Bigsuk]

Dexter Isaac says they knew exactly what jewelry Pac would be wearing and how much each item was worth because Haitian Jack was with him when he bought it. Henchman and Haitian Jack must have talked it over then. Jack and Tut probably complained to Henchman before on how Pac was talking about them and then when Pac talked to Jimmy the way he did, he was fed up with him a lot quicker. Henchman, Jack, and Tut all knew each other. The decision that Pac needed to be disciplined was probably heavily influenced by their past history with him. Again, he had fallen out with these people months prior. There was a reason why Pac was so impatient with Jimmy Henchman. Of course Jimmy Henchman isn't gonna tell the whole history to Dexter Isaac if he really set the whole thing up in only a matter of a few hours.



Pac was in surgery for his wounds though. And he checked out against doctors' orders, meaning they felt that he needed to stay longer to recover.

Again thats your thoery . As far as the shooting .... And again thats what pac said in vibe about tut n hatian .... Sometimes pacs words cant be proven .... Why wouldnt he tell dexter why he wanted pac set-up?? Dexter done loads ov robberys and shootings for jimmy why keep it from him ?? As far as the head shots ... Like i said dexter issac , chuck philiips , greg kading , nypd, the orginal doctor and stretchs vibe interview , lil cease all say pac was not shot in the head 2x ... Its pacs word and the 2nd privite doctors alfadavits that say otherwise ...

 

[loyola llothta]

Refine "realest " ?? Pacs background it self is questionable ... Hows he then"realest" ?? nikkas just say that cause it sounds cool ..

who throwaway account is this?