Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

[Renzo]

breh

we disagree on plenty of shyt same thing @spliz @Renzo but this is getting a bit ridiculous yall actually believe he got shot in the head and not just once but twice and was able to leave the hospital a few hours later in the morning


come on..... yall nikkaz are too smart for this shyt

I give it up to you..you attempt to act like know your shyt..but how many times I proved you wrong? Lol you really think bandaged himself up or something? Its entirely possible he was shot and went to court...maybe you would've laid up like a helpless cripple...but that nikka showed up to court bc he was fighting for his freedom. ...it aint hard to assume from all the reports he was actually shot..or you think he had a death wish and just woke up that morning and decided to beef with real gangsters?

 

[spliz]

So whats everyones opinion then truthfully ?? Aside from the debatable 5shots do nikkas think pac shot himself in the groin ?? , was pac right to fall out with stretch ?? , did he have a good enough reason to go hard at biggie for loyalty issues. ??? Whats yall thoughts ??

My opinion is that the only one who knows how much times Pac was shot is the doctors and Pac. Like dude said Pac initially didn't think he got shot that many times until the doctors told him. I don't believe he made the whole shyt 5 times shyt up outta thin air for "publicity" like nikkas sayin. That's prolly the last thing the nikka wanted considering the high profile rape case he was involved in. His fallout with Stretch is funny and I wish he could've elaborated more on it. But for whatever reason Pac felt REALLY betrayed by Stretch.
"So now u let the fear put yo ass in a place complicated to escape. It's a fools fate. Without ur word u a shell of a man. I lost respect for u nikka. And we could never be friends. I know im runnin thru ya head now. What could u do if it was up to u. I'd be dead now. I'll let the whole world know that you a coward u could never be live until you die. I see the muthafukkin bytch in yo eyes. The type of nikka let the evil of the money trap me. So when u see me nikka. U better holla at me. " -2pac to Stretch. Pac felt Stretch was a liar and a coward. There had to be a reason for that. As far as Biggie I feel that he was just starting to feel like Biggie was a coward as well but he was starting to ease up on Biggie.

 

[Bigsuk]

Nah there was people who was helping Pac wit the case at the time that felt the shyt was funny and suspicious. Them nikkas was grimey and informants and Pac knew and even said as much while he was alive. He def felt all that shyt was connected. shyt even Dexter Isaac called Jimmy n them informants.

Only jimmy ive read his book .... He said reguarding tut or hatian jack wen he was in the streets he never heard they were snitches or informants from anyone that was just pac throwing shyt out there with no evidence only nikka who was something on him is jimmy ....

 

[Bigsuk]

My opinion is that the only one who knows how much times Pac was shot is the doctors and Pac. Like dude said Pac initially didn't think he got shot that many times until the doctors told him. I don't believe he made the whole shyt 5 times shyt up outta thin air for "publicity" like nikkas sayin. That's prolly the last thing the nikka wanted considering the high profile rape case he was involved in. His fallout with Stretch is funny and I wish he could've elaborated more on it. But for whatever reason Pac felt REALLY betrayed by Stretch.
"So now u let the fear put yo ass in a place complicated to escape. It's a fools fate. Without ur word u a shell of a man. I lost respect for u nikka. And we could never be friends. I know im runnin thru ya head now. What could u do if it was up to u. I'd be dead now. I'll let the whole world know that you a coward u could never be live until you die. I see the muthafukkin bytch in yo eyes. The type of nikka let the evil of the money trap me. So when u see me nikka. U better holla at me. " -2pac to Stretch. Pac felt Stretch was a liar and a coward. There had to be a reason for that. As far as Biggie I feel that he was just starting to feel like Biggie was a coward as well but he was starting to ease up on Biggie.

Maybe pac was just running with what he was told as far as the 5 shots thing from the doctors , i dont personallly think he was shot 5x deffo not 2x in the head anyway .... You have a point about the stretch thing it was kinda strange pac never really went into much detail why he fell out with him ... Ive never seen any evidence to backup he was involoved in anyway ov the 94 shooting but again suposly jimmy was sendin msgs though stretch to pac that " you dont wana go to war with me you havent even got your money right " maybe pac felt since stretch was kinda cool with all them ny gangsters he couldnt take the chance n cut him off.... Kinda sad since pac n stretch were homies for a good few years .... Yeah towards the end ov pacs life he started goin at puffy more then biggie ..

 

[spliz]

Only jimmy ive read his book .... He said reguarding tut or hatian jack wen he was in the streets he never heard they were snitches or informants from anyone that was just pac throwing shyt out there with no evidence only nikka who was something on him is jimmy ....

Nah there was evidence of Haitian Jack doin similar things at different points. Similar crimes. Similar cases. And he always got off. A lawyer was speaking on it. Which told Pac about the pattern. Which is why Pac said. "Knew he was working for the feds. Same crime different trail nikka picture what he said..". Pac wasnt just throwin shyt out there. This was being shown to him while he was working on his case.

 

[Bigsuk]

Nah there was evidence of Haitian Jack doin similar things at different points. Similar crimes. Similar cases. And he always got off. A lawyer was speaking on it. Which told Pac about the pattern. Which is why Pac said. "Knew he was working for the feds. Same crime different trail nikka picture what he said..". Pac wasnt just throwin shyt out there. This was being shown to him while he was working on his case.

But you said dexter said"jimmy n them " wen dexter only said jimmy not tut or jack just jimmy ...

 

[Ces1ne?]

u said this interview would have done damage to bad boy

my nikka - if hit em up didnt do damage... so, what da hell u think this interview was gonna do




bad boy bytchez - cant STOP wont STOP

 

[spliz]

But you said dexter said"jimmy n them " wen dexter only said jimmy not tut or jack just jimmy ...

Oh my fault. Lol. U right.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

It's 2hrs of venting but I'm willing to bet all of my Coli cash that he isn't saying anything we haven't heard already. Angie must have been delusional at the time to think the biggest rap star was giving her an exclusive.

She did the interview because I'm sure her bosses back then made her do it but she prolly didn't even wanna do it considering he shyt on people she ran into in on a regular basis back then

I felt like she was talking down to Pac throughout the interview and once people hear it they will be able to instantly pick up on it and in turn hate her for it. It was clear she was on the side of Nyc/Bad Boy and Biggie when she did it. It was just a poorly done biased interview imo.

I can't blame her though Bad Boy spent alot of money at Hot97. Who else remembers when they had that station on lock? lol Star has talked about all the money that Def Jam paid to Hot 97 back in the day, I would love to hear the amounts that Bad Boy spent.

 

[kingofnyc]

And you people are incredibly slow in the critical thinking department.
Biggie stans/bad boy lovers have successfully re-written history. Pac never blamed bad boy, puffy, biggie, or anybody when he was at prison. In fact, nikkas were telling him they were "involved" (again this must be about puffy not biggie) and Pac didn't believe him. Pac started to talk about all this shyt when "Who Shot Ya" came out (again @kingofnyc will claim it was written before the shooting but that doesn't matter, the intentions in releasing it were obvious).
Like everyone is saying, Pac was NOT a megastar before 96, when he went to jail people thought he would be finished, that's why stretch was hanging out with puffy and biggie, that's why biggie moved on from thug life and Pac, that's why people were dissing him while in prison, that's why Who Shot Ya was released (Puffy never expected Pac to sign with DR, which would further fuel the beef).

Then when Pac comes out, Biggie snitches on a radio show saying "Pac and DPG were filming out in NYC, people need to do something about it", shots were fired, and Pac and DPG release these two songs;




Biggie was not the choir boy that his stans are trying to make him.

did this nikka call biggie a snitch for going on da radio saying i cant believe these DR nikkaz are recording a video called new york new york in redhook BK

that not snitching that a boss telling his wolves to handle dat

 

[Nomad1]

that a boss telling his wolves to handle dat

That is snitching. Jimmy henchmen was the one that sent goons to shoot up that trailer.

 

[kingofnyc]

At the end ov the day we only have lil shawn saying biggie got robbed for pac runnin bk to them nikkas we neeed more to confirm , i do feel sorry for biggie in a way i mean biggie was a hustler not some harderned crimial or killer like jimmy , jack etc if they found out big was riding for pac wat they gona do to big or his family he had to protect them hence why he basically kept hiss mouth shut.... Pac did flipflop in songs and interviews as to what his reason was for going at big i read every magazine interview , tv interview etc sometimes pac made no sense Do i think he was faking it with biggie ... No no complety at least but he knew it would bring bigger drama it turned from some loyalty issues to something much bigger n there was no turning back.... Pac knew he couldnt go at jimmmy n them until he got his shyt right ...( which didnt even seem right before he passed ) but he had a real team ov hitters behind him though suge ... Thing about it is there is no evidence to bak up jimmy n jack were extorting badboy either , dexter issac says he knows for a fact they were not been extorted due to wolf and his nikkas who put some ov the money up for badboy no way in hell would he let that happen....dex n wolf were tight aswell....

another great post !!!!

the problem is that these Tupac stans don't want to realize that the man was a goddamn liar most of that shyt he put out was bullshyt
jimmy extorting puff big and bad boy was just non sense - I attempted to articulate and explain to these nikkaz but is just a waste of time because Tupac is there a God and everything he said and did had to be right to dem no matter how ridiculous

the fact of the matter on puff either related to or extremely close to 'wolf' and 'zip' would tell anybody with an ounce of street cred that no way was puff getting extorted

it was a lie :about puff getting extorted
same lie when he said :puff wanted to sign him(pac) away from interspoce
same lie when he said :biggie hated puff and was going to sign his(pac) thug life label

yet these nikkaz dont even believe one of pac closes/dearest freind that claimed this thug pac shyt was all an act called him a method actor that took it too far

 

[Nomad1]

another great post !!!!

the problem is that these Tupac stans don't want to realize that the man was a goddamn liar most of that shyt he put out was bullshyt
jimmy extorting puff big and bad boy was just non sense - I attempted to articulate and explain to these nikkaz but is just a waste of time because Tupac is there a God and everything he said and did had to be right to dem no matter how ridiculous

the fact of the matter on puff either related to or extremely close to 'wolf' and 'zip' would tell anybody with an ounce of street cred that no way was puff getting extorted

it was a lie :about puff getting extorted
same lie when he said :puff wanted to sign him(pac) away from interspoce
same lie when he said :biggie hated puff and was going to sign his(pac) thug life label

yet these nikkaz dont even believe one of pac closes/dearest freind that claimed this thug pac shyt was all an act called him a method actor that took it too far

Pac birthed biggie take that take that.

 

[kingofnyc]

That is snitching. Jimmy henchmen was the one that sent goons to shoot up that trailer.

u cant be a street nikka & think thats snitching

dont expose yourself -breh

 

[spliz]

Another thing. The nikkas who was wit him? They see he bout to get robbed or whatever. Why Stretch ain't jump in to help his mans? That's another crazy thing to me. I'm pretty sure if any of u nikkas homeboy was bout to get robbed. Yall not gonna stand there and do nothin. Pac said the nikkas he was wit was standing behind the robbers. On some funny shyt.