Any atheists that weren't ALWAYS atheist?

[Johnny Kilroy]

What am I preaching? Im not even advocating atheism or anything, im just refuting your ignorant claims.

I'm not talking about you. But didn't @Weedizmedicine say ATHEISTS be handing out literature on his campus?

Ignorant claims? STFU. Not my fault you're too p*ssy to stand behind what you believe.

 

[Tom]

So an entire universe just appeared? From nothing? The big bang was just an explosion of nothing?

And you're okay with that explanation?

We don't know and it would be irresponsible and intellectually dishonest to speculate either way.


Anything is possible at this point but if one were to claim they know exactly what happened then they're con men.


and Yes, the majority of people who consider themselves atheist will acknowledge that they're agnostic on this particular matter.



Again, to suggest that some guy created it by blowing fart out his ass would be intellectually dishonest. There's nothing wrong with holding that belief, and it is not a crime but just know that there is no evidence currently that supports it.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Evolution is a proven scientific fact, but the arguments against it are all wrong. Just because evolution exists doesn't disprove or prove the existence of God. Human beings don't even look like how we used to look 500 or 600 years ago. We have gotten taller and leaner as a species.


Almost nothing looks like the way it did when it emerged as a species, still doesn't say that God doesn't exist. Like i said if anything i think its just another system God put in place.

God is in the details.

And atheism isn't a religion but it is a belief system. There is no doctrine or practice to atheism, but it is a way of thinking and observing the world that shapes how you feel, think and act.

But again, its juvenile to me to try and disprove God to someone by saying "go to biology class". Biology is a science which is an observation of systems and organisms within those systems. Who's to say those systems aren't divinely created. but this shouldn't make people say "oh God made it" so stop examining and asking questions (which happens way too much).

i'm not trying to convert you, i'm just saying understand the opposing perspective so you don't come off like a douchebag.

Too late for that.

Good points though.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

We don't know and it would be irresponsible and intellectually dishonest to speculate either way.


Anything is possible at this point but if one were to claim they know exactly what happened then they're con men.


and Yes, the majority of people who consider themselves atheist will acknowledge that they're agnostic on this particular matter.



Again, to suggest that some guy created it by blowing fart out his ass would be intellectually dishonest. There's nothing wrong with holding that belief, and it is not a crime but just know that there is no evidence currently for it

So you don't know? Then STFU and stop acting like you do.

"Some guy" illustrates that your concept of God is a very juvenile one.

And your "evidence" still doesn't disprove anything. If you say a monkey gave birth to a man that's fine but how does that prove God didn't make it so?

It doesn't. So if that's all you have to offer (and I've read your posts so believe me when I say that is ALL you have to offer) then you've spoken your weak ass sentiment. No need to repeat it, "bro".

 

[Tom]

Evolution is a proven scientific fact, but the arguments against it are all wrong. Just because evolution exists doesn't disprove or prove the existence of God. Human beings don't even look like how we used to look 500 or 600 years ago. We have gotten taller and leaner as a species.


Almost nothing looks like the way it did when it emerged as a species, still doesn't say that God doesn't exist. Like i said if anything i think its just another system God put in place.

God is in the details.

And atheism isn't a religion but it is a belief system. There is no doctrine or practice to atheism, but it is a way of thinking and observing the world that shapes how you feel, think and act.

But again, its juvenile to me to try and disprove God to someone by saying "go to biology class". Biology is a science which is an observation of systems and organisms within those systems. Who's to say those systems aren't divinely created. but this shouldn't make people say "oh God made it" so stop examining and asking questions (which happens way too much).

i'm not trying to convert you, i'm just saying understand the opposing perspective so you don't come off like a douchebag.

Evolution doesn't disprove or prove Gods existence, There's just no need to implement the idea when discussing it. There's no evidence to support the fact that God intervened in the evolution of various species bro.


Species changing and adapting due to various occurrences is a divinely created system?


Seriously.


I understand you're taking the devils advocate stance but just stop breh, that sh1t is silly and you know it.

 

[SwagmundFreud]

I'm not talking about you. But didn't @Weedizmedicine say ATHEISTS be handing out literature on his campus?

Ignorant claims? STFU. Not my fault you're too p*ssy to stand behind what you believe.

I never seen atheists hand out anything on my college campus, I have seen anti-abortion xtians though.

And for the simple fact that you have to resort to name calling, it shows you have nothing intelligent to say. Read a book friend I know that concept seems foreign to you but, just do it.

 

[Tom]

So you don't know? Then STFU and stop acting like you do.

"Some guy" illustrates that your concept of God is a very juvenile one.

And your "evidence" still doesn't disprove anything. If you say a monkey gave birth to a man that's fine but how does that prove God didn't make it so?

You're right because God is magic and he can do anything.

I have no evidence to refute this.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I agree but I believe the reason its easy to compare jesus to something like santa claus is because theyre equally ridiculous.

Ummm, no, they're not equal whatsoever......



J was a real historical figure.
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[Black Magisterialness]

We don't know and it would be irresponsible and intellectually dishonest to speculate either way.


Anything is possible at this point but if one were to claim they know exactly what happened then they're con men.


and Yes, the majority of people who consider themselves atheist will acknowledge that they're agnostic on this particular matter.



Again, to suggest that some guy created it by blowing fart out his ass would be intellectually dishonest. There's nothing wrong with holding that belief, and it is not a crime but just know that there is no evidence currently that supports it.

this i can roll with, that's one of my main arguments when i get into the creation story and what not....the exact origins i don't think ANYONE will ever know...the planet is just too old.

But i do think its interesting that in the Christian creation story, Adam was made from the clay of earth, and the minerals in the earth are also present in the human body at almost a directly equal proportion...

thats amazing breh...and to my WAAAAY to complex to be a mistake...but thats just my view.

 

[Luke Cage]

I'm not talking about you. But didn't @Weedizmedicine say ATHEISTS be handing out literature on his campus?

Ignorant claims? STFU. Not my fault you're too p*ssy to stand behind what you believe.

thank you. i'm not arguing that athiesism is wrong or that christianty is better. i just think that they preach just as much as anybody else about their beliefs/or lack there of.

and its just as annoying to me that i have to avoid fanatacal atheists the same way i avoid crazy bible pushers.

the people i like the best are the nonpracticing christians. they don't go to church and when they do they just want it to end quickly so they can go home and watch football, they haven't read the bible, and when people ask them about religion they have no opinion because they don't really care either way.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

everyone is an atheist

I'm not. I'm just a lot more intelligent and mature than you and most of the uninformed atheists on this forum although you all like to fancy yourselves as somewhat intellectual. In actuality, you're intellectually dishonest.

Theological Noncognitivism >>>> (Illogical) Atheism​

 

[Tom]

thank you. i'm not arguing that athiesism is wrong or that christianty is better. i just think that they preach just as much as anybody else about their beliefs/or lack there of.

and its just as annoying to me that i have to avoid fanatacal atheists the same way i avoid crazy bible pushers.

the people i like the best are the nonpracticing christians. they don't go to church and when they do they just want it to end quickly so they can go home and watch football, they haven't read the bible, and when people ask them about religion they have no opinion because they don't really care either way.

this is like reverse racism


even if it was the case they have been quiet for centuries while religious people have been doing it so let them get theirs off

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I never seen atheists hand out anything on my college campus, I have seen anti-abortion xtians though.

And for the simple fact that you have to resort to name calling, it shows you have nothing intelligent to say. Read a book friend I know that concept seems foreign to you but, just do it.

Well I never saw an atheist hand out anything and I never saw an anti-abortion christian either. Not in real life anyways.

But I do post on the coli and so do you so let's just stick to something we can both definitely relate too.

On the coli, who pushes their agenda more?

You called me ignorant for comparing atheism to a religion so yeah I'ma say some shyt back. The fact that you're bytching up over it proves my point that you're a bytch. But you're right, your bytchassedness is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Evolution doesn't disprove or prove Gods existence, There's just no need to implement the idea when discussing it. There's no evidence to support the fact that God intervened in the evolution of various species bro.


Species changing and adapting due to various occurrences is a divinely created system?


Seriously.


I understand you're taking the devils advocate stance but just stop breh, that sh1t is silly and you know it.

you are doing exactly what makes atheists look like elitist asshats. Instead of understanding and stating that you can't DISPROVE what i said you go to insulting the viewpoint instead of adding to the discourse.

I personally try not to bring God into evolution talks because it DOES exist and it IS measurable. BUT in the context of using evolution to prove or disprove God is a flimsy argument at best.

I also think you misunderstand what i mean by systems. I at no point said God intervenes in evolution or anything else for that matter. You're thinking that i think God sits on some throne saying "i'm gonna make alligators green now" no that's not what i mean. I mean in the process of the universe forming, these systems were all put in place, its on automatic. God doesn't need to intervene imo.

Again, belittling the opposing viewpoint is a terrible way to support a stance.

And theists and atheists alike are clowns for pushing their beliefs onto others, like previously stated i avoid wacky atheists the same way i avoid jehovas witnesses

 

[Tom]

you are doing exactly what makes atheists look like elitist asshats. Instead of understanding and stating that you can't DISPROVE what i said you go to insulting the viewpoint instead of adding to the discourse.

I personally try not to bring God into evolution talks because it DOES exist and it IS measurable. BUT in the context of using evolution to prove or disprove God is a flimsy argument at best.

I also think you misunderstand what i mean by systems. I at no point said God intervenes in evolution or anything else for that matter. You're thinking that i think God sits on some throne saying "i'm gonna make alligators green now" no that's not what i mean. I mean in the process of the universe forming, these systems were all put in place, its on automatic. God doesn't need to intervene imo.

Again, belittling the opposing viewpoint is a terrible way to support a stance.

And theists and atheists alike are clowns for pushing their beliefs onto others, like previously stated i avoid wacky atheists the same way i avoid jehovas witnesses

Just because these systems are set in place does not mean God set them.


And it's irresponsible to subscribe to such an idea as fact


Just Accept that you don't know yet and K.I.M, no one is belittling anything just stop saying sh1t that's bullsh1t breh.

I personally try not to bring God into evolution talks because it DOES exist and it IS measurable.

Sure it is.



No one uses evolution to disprove the concept of God, they only use it to disprove the fairy tales in religious myths.