Any of yall into IFA/Santeria?

[SwizzLake]

Never knew some Coli members practice Voodoo.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Bookmarked. I’ve learned a lot since this thread initially was posted

 

[010101]

traditional spirituality can be incredibly beautiful

but is it really different from the mainstream superstitions¿

all the power they claim to wield & most of the conversation is trying to secure worldly gains & spiritual warfare

like the deities & spirits don't encourage & guide you to better¿

with what all these individuals claim to be capable of it should be easy to lift our families & communities into better position in life

it should be easy to bring justice to violators & enforce the law

i have been surrounded by these things in various forms & i study from a point of loving knowledge

african asian indigenous american european extraterrestrial whatever the culture it always seems to be more questions than answers

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[GrindtooFilthy]

Never knew some Coli members practice Voodoo.

ifa is not voodoo, get outta here with this mess

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

traditional spirituality can be incredibly beautiful

but is it really different from the mainstream superstitions¿

all the power they claim to wield & most of the conversation is trying to secure worldly gains & spiritual warfare

like the deities & spirits don't encourage & guide you to better¿

with what all these individuals claim to be capable of it should be easy to lift our families & communities into better position in life

it should be easy to bring justice to violators & enforce the law

i have been surrounded by these things in various forms & i study from a point of loving knowledge

african asian indigenous american european extraterrestrial whatever the culture it always seems to be more questions than answers

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this is what they don't get, you're on the money a little bit

these are religions at the end of the day with their own dogmas, but you know people are hard headed and dislike rules and regulations so they tossed way the dogmas to wither it down to "spirituality" to make it free flowing. that's why it's not working the way it's supposed to or it's straight up biting them in the ass

The real golden rule is the law of equivalent exchange, you can't bypass that rule.

 

[010101]

this is what they don't get, you're on the money a little bit

these are religions at the end of the day with their own dogmas, but you know people are hard headed and dislike rules and regulations so they tossed way the dogmas to wither it down to "spirituality" to make it free flowing. that's why it's not working the way it's supposed to or it's straight up biting them in the ass

The real golden rule is the law of equivalent exchange, you can't bypass that rule.

even when it worked the way it was supposed to did it really ever work¿

look at where people's families communities & nations fell to¿

it couldn't prevent that¿

why is it that individuals who claim to have this knowledge & power can't stand in the light¿

where is the example where is the proof¿

show me the individuals the families the nations that are thriving off superstitions¿

i just can't get beyond the inconsistency

the truth should be constant

i am skeptical because i need to know i am placing my steps in the right direction

like i said i am not sure it's any different than say the major religions other than having less followers less influence less resources

who really knows though¿

ha

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[Jimmy from Linkedin]

traditional spirituality can be incredibly beautiful

but is it really different from the mainstream superstitions¿

all the power they claim to wield & most of the conversation is trying to secure worldly gains & spiritual warfare

like the deities & spirits don't encourage & guide you to better¿

with what all these individuals claim to be capable of it should be easy to lift our families & communities into better position in life

it should be easy to bring justice to violators & enforce the law

i have been surrounded by these things in various forms & i study from a point of loving knowledge

african asian indigenous american european extraterrestrial whatever the culture it always seems to be more questions than answers

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regardless of what even I might've said earlier in this thread, I've learned the bolded is the highest objective of Ifa

 

[010101]

regardless of what even I might've said earlier in this thread, I've learned the bolded is the highest objective of Ifa

you probably would find every system of belief claiming the same

so who is right¿

who is wrong¿

& why can't they accept that they may need to change¿

deities can't learn improve & grow¿

if we go back to the beginning what was the original system of spirituality¿

if it was true how did we end up with all the differentiation & opinionated positions¿

spirituality/superstition for me lead's to more questioning & relies too much on belief

i am looking for what stays constant independent of what you believe

the truth should be true for us all & independent of our petty cultural differences

i am honestly searching..........

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[Sassy]

Damn, how did I miss this thread?

I'm personally not in ifa or santeria. (I'm reading into hoodoo/rootwork and ancestor veneration..so I'm a beginner). However, I do have family members that are into metaphysics one way or another.

 

[The Fade]

traditional spirituality can be incredibly beautiful

but is it really different from the mainstream superstitions¿

all the power they claim to wield & most of the conversation is trying to secure worldly gains & spiritual warfare

like the deities & spirits don't encourage & guide you to better¿

with what all these individuals claim to be capable of it should be easy to lift our families & communities into better position in life

it should be easy to bring justice to violators & enforce the law

i have been surrounded by these things in various forms & i study from a point of loving knowledge

african asian indigenous american european extraterrestrial whatever the culture it always seems to be more questions than answers

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I heard a saying that religion used for material gain and worldly pleasures is witchcraft/magic. Religion used for the betterment of one’s self and those around him is good. Kind of makes sense to me. I see prosperity preachers like Mages and illusionists

I’m the same way as you, I like having the knowledge but there’s always another question to be solved it seems like

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

even when it worked the way it was supposed to did it really ever work¿

look at where people's families communities & nations fell to¿

it couldn't prevent that¿

why is it that individuals who claim to have this knowledge & power can't stand in the light¿

where is the example where is the proof¿

show me the individuals the families the nations that are thriving off superstitions¿

i just can't get beyond the inconsistency

the truth should be constant

i am skeptical because i need to know i am placing my steps in the right direction

like i said i am not sure it's any different than say the major religions other than having less followers less influence less resources

who really knows though¿

ha

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provocateurs and espionage, plus it's not something that was for the general public only a select few are meant to know. religions have priests/scribes for a reason. they were meant as a translation point not to say you can't study it on your own but that roles is maintained across all denominations not by mere coincidences

again everyone you've come across is phony or has nefarious purposes. even the 5%ers highlight this in their mission statement

" Ten percent of the people of the world know the truth of existence, and those elites opt to keep 85 percent of the world in ignorance and under their controlling thumb. The remaining percentage are those who know the truth and are determined to enlighten the rest. They are the Five Percent Nation."

they are out there but they have no use to make themselves known, for what reason? it serves them know purpose

If you want to know the difference you have to study the religions wholly meaning you have to have understanding of 3 things as it pertains to any or said religions. Their views on spirituality/theology, their philosophies, and their dogmas

people keep skipping the last 2 but it's within the last 2 that it all comes full circle

I heard a saying that religion used for material gain and worldly pleasures is witchcraft/magic. Religion used for the betterment of one’s self and those around him is good. Kind of makes sense to me. I see prosperity preachers like Mages and illusionists

I’m the same way as you, I like having the knowledge but there’s always another question to be solved it seems like

This is "witchcraft" is or should say I alchemy

anything of great or equal value needs a substitute (sacrifice) what are you willing to sacrifice (Substitute) to obtain it

also faith without works is dead. you have to put in the work one way or another, people want to skip the hard part. that's not how this material world works

 

[MMS]

you probably would find every system of belief claiming the same

so who is right¿

who is wrong¿

& why can't they accept that they may need to change¿

deities can't learn improve & grow¿

if we go back to the beginning what was the original system of spirituality¿

if it was true how did we end up with all the differentiation & opinionated positions¿

spirituality/superstition for me lead's to more questioning & relies too much on belief

i am looking for what stays constant independent of what you believe

the truth should be true for us all & independent of our petty cultural differences

i am honestly searching..........

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You know I been told you about the pharaoh who knows Joseph tho Basically decoded the Bible for y’all and pacified a muslim hating Christian and changed the tune of a few Jews

The idea that the lower dimensional world gives rise to the higher dimensional world you’re gonna find it hard to contest imo

 

[010101]

provocateurs and espionage, plus it's not something that was for the general public only a select few are meant to know. religions have priests/scribes for a reason. they were meant as a translation point not to say you can't study it on your own but that roles is maintained across all denominations not by mere coincidences

again everyone you've come across is phony or has nefarious purposes. even the 5%ers highlight this in their mission statement

" Ten percent of the people of the world know the truth of existence, and those elites opt to keep 85 percent of the world in ignorance and under their controlling thumb. The remaining percentage are those who know the truth and are determined to enlighten the rest. They are the Five Percent Nation."

they are out there but they have no use to make themselves known, for what reason? it serves them know purpose

If you want to know the difference you have to study the religions wholly meaning you have to have understanding of 3 things as it pertains to any or said religions. Their views on spirituality/theology, their philosophies, and their dogmas

people keep skipping the last 2 but it's within the last 2 that it all comes full circle

only a select few are meant to have something that is supposedly necessary¿

if knowing the creator is the key to life how does that sound¿

that's like saying only a select few should be allowed to breathe clean air or have access to clean water & nourishment

if it's true it doesn't need to be hidden & obscured

people don't do things like that for safety sake they do things like that because they believe they have found an advantage & would like to exploit those that do not know what they know

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[010101]

You know I been told you about the pharaoh who knows Joseph tho Basically decoded the Bible for y’all and pacified a muslim hating Christian and changed the tune of a few Jews

The idea that the lower dimensional world gives rise to the higher dimensional world you’re gonna find it hard to contest imo

you are not very convincing ha

it's the opposite keeping it a buck

you like to feed into confusion for fun

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[GrindtooFilthy]

only a select few are meant to have something that is supposedly necessary¿

if knowing the creator is the key to life how does that sound¿

that's like saying only a select few should be allowed to breathe clean air or have access to clean water & nourishment

if it's true it doesn't need to be hidden & obscured

people don't do things like that for safety sake they do things like that because they believe they have found an advantage & would like to exploit those that do not know what they know

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I see the problem already, you're intertwining theology with spirituality (more so spiritual practices). the 2 aren't necessarily one and the same

you should always have knowledge of self and be one with the creator, but the actual metaphysical spiritual practices are what I meant when I say it's not for everyone things like divination is not meant to be practice by everyone, especially if you don't have the proper guidance or training for it