Anybody ever listen to illmatic and think damn this shyt is wack

[bigbadbossup2012]

It's irrelevant to the question you fakkit. I don't need an essay for a yes or no question. I asked if you think RTD is a 4.5 album. Yes or No?

• People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm -- A Tribe Called Quest EAST COAST
• Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em -- Eric B. & Rakim EAST COAST
• AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted -- Ice Cube
• One for All -- Brand Nubian EAST COAST
• De La Soul Is Dead -- De La Soul EAST COAST
• The Low End Theory -- A Tribe Called Quest EAST COAST
• Illmatic -- Nas EAST COAST
• Life After Death -- The Notorious B.I.G. EAST COAST
• Aquemini -- Outkast
• The Blueprint -- Jay-Z EAST COAST
• Stillmatic -- Nas EAST COAST
• The Fix -- Scarface
• The Naked Truth -- Lil' Kim EAST COAST
• Trill OG -- Bun B
• My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy -- Kanye West

Albums that were not rated upon their releases, but were later rated five mics in 2002:

• Run-D.M.C. -- Run-D.M.C. EAST COAST
• Radio -- LL Cool J EAST COAST
• Licensed to Ill -- Beastie Boys EAST COAST
• Raising Hell -- Run-D.M.C. EAST COAST
• Criminal Minded -- Boogie Down Productions EAST COAST
• Paid in Full -- Eric B. & Rakim EAST COAST
• By All Means Necessary -- Boogie Down ProductionsEAST COAST

• It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back -- Public Enemy EAST COAST
• Long Live the Kane -- Big Daddy Kane EAST COAST
• Critical Beatdown -- Ultramagnetic MCs EAST COAST
• Straight Out the Jungle -- Jungle Brothers EAST COAST
• Strictly Business -- EPMD EAST COAST
• The Great Adventures of Slick Rick -- Slick Rick EAST COAST
• Straight Outta Compton -- N.W.A
• No One Can Do It Better -- The D.O.C.
• All Eyez on Me -- 2Pac

Albums that originally received 4.5 mics, and were later re-rated to five:

• Breaking Atoms -- Main Source EAST COAST
• Death Certificate -- Ice Cube
• The Chronic -- Dr. Dre
• Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) -- Wu-Tang ClanEAST COAST
• Ready to Die -- The Notorious B.I.G.EAST COAST
• The Infamous -- Mobb DeepEAST COAST
• Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... -- RaekwonEAST COAST
• 2001 -- Dr. Dre

Albums that originally received four mics, and were later re-rated to five:

• Grip It! On That Other Level -- Geto Boys
• Doggystyle -- Snoop Doggy Dogg
• The Diary -- Scarface
• Me Against the World -- 2Pac
• The Score -- The Fugees EAST COAST
• Reasonable Doubt -- Jay-Z EAST COAST

YOU SEE THE BIAS IS ALIVE AND WELL. SUCH A WIDE ARRAY OF EAST COAST ARTISTS WITH 5 MICS,WHILE THE WEST COAST IS LIMITED TO FORMER RUTHLESS AND DEATHROW ARTISTS .
THE SOUTH IS LIMITED TO THE HIGHEST SELLING HIPHOP GROUP OUTKAST AND A COUPLE TEXAS ACTS

AND ALL THE WEST COAST ACTS HAD TO HAVE GOOD/GREAT SALES TO BE RERATED 5 MICS

fukk your question,the bias is clear

 

[Tom Foolery]

fukk your question,the bias is clear

Why are you enlarging your font. Are you flustered?

RTD. 4.5 album. Yes or No?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

When i place facts in front of people but they want to avoid facts and continue tug o warring over opinions,it means they're not interested in the truth at all

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Why are you enlarging your font. Are you flustered?

RTD. 4.5 album. Yes or No?

No flustering at all see above post

 

[Tom Foolery]

No flustering at all see above post

RTD. 4.5 album. Yes or No? is this question flustering to you?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

When i place facts in front of people but they want to avoid facts and continue tug o warring over opinions,it means they're not interested in the truth at all

because your facts are from 20+ year old album reviews from ONE magazine which are totally irrelevant to people actually liking/talking about illmatic in 2016. That shyt has nothing to do with 25 year olds and under actually going back to peep that album. The only reason they do is because of word of mouth and there's 2 or 3 testimonials in this thread alone that attest to that. That's how classic albums in every genre move years after the fact

You obsess over mic ratings and album sales like rhyme king obsesses about multisyllabic rhymes.

Unlike you, rhyme king can at least tell you why he likes a song

 

[jwonder]

This is the fagot that thinks Future is a great rapper.

 

[Suleiman Bey]

I say damn "Halftime" is wack and "It Was Written" is way better than "Illmatic"

 

[nieman]

I was alive in 94 and that mediocre album did not got platinum until 10 years later.

That's only because everyone dubbed it. My copy was a dub of a dub

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

That's only because everyone dubbed it. My copy was a dub of a dub

lmao at nikkas acting like illmatic was the only dubbed album rofl,you clowns

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

because your facts are from 20+ year old album reviews from ONE magazine which are totally irrelevant to people actually liking/talking about illmatic in 2016. That shyt has nothing to do with 25 year olds and under actually going back to peep that album. The only reason they do is because of word of mouth and there's 2 or 3 testimonials in this thread alone that attest to that. That's how classic albums in every genre move years after the fact

You obsess over mic ratings and album sales like rhyme king obsesses about multisyllabic rhymes.

Unlike you, rhyme king can at least tell you why he likes a song

Having a historical presence in media can create word of mouth and personally I don't think people like it that much. Took 7 years to hit plat and nothing since then other debuts from that year like biggie and bone at 4mil and Warren g it's at around three million

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

RTD. 4.5 album. Yes or No? is this question flustering to you?

Thought we were talking 5 Mic albums

 

[Bolzmark]

I could totally accept and respect this is other albums from other regions were treated this way. But historically the east is the only place you can flop and be talked up to classic through time. Because it's the root of media. Dj's,nerds that go on to edit mags,etc are often from there. Meanwhile these same mf's will try to tear down an album that performed well from another region.
I also dont respect when nikkas use extreme corny examples to try and make a point.
Hammer's persona on please hammer dont hurt em and content is entirely different than the people you're comparing him to.

When I compare illmatic to other projects from 1994,i dont compare him to blatant attempts at cross over success.
I compare him to other artists that have some type of similarity
Illmatic was outsold by alot of other street albums that werent going around wearing shiny suits smiling,not cussing etc. that also came out in the same year etc.
When nikkas have to say way out shyt or give outlandish examples to try and prove me wrong,it just reaffirms i'm right.
Do me a favor and name some albums outside the east coast,that didnt cater to a east coast sound,that didnt sell well but get built up over time as some GOAT potential album.

It may be an extreme example, but the rule still applies - sales don't mean shyt. How old were you in '94? I have a feeling you must have been a baby because anybody who was aware of their surroundings knows the huge impact Illmatic had. And all you can do is look at sales. (Also consider it was HEAVILY bootlegged months before it's release. I was listening to Illmatic in January of '94, every track except the Wild style intro).
You are trying to re-write history, point blank period. And your only reason for doing so is sales.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It may be an extreme example, but the rule still applies - sales don't mean shyt. How old were you in '94? I have a feeling you must have been a baby because anybody who was aware of their surroundings knows the huge impact Illmatic had. And all you can do is look at sales. (Also consider it was HEAVILY bootlegged months before it's release. I was listening to Illmatic in January of '94, every track except the Wild style intro).
You are trying to re-write history, point blank period. And your only reason for doing so is sales.

I turned 15 in 94' my friend.
Everybody gets bootlegged,STOP

 

[Bolzmark]

I turned 15 in 94' my friend.
Everybody gets bootlegged,STOP

Soooo...does everybody get a 20th anniversary special movie made about their "wack" album? And then that movie get's picked up by Showtime? Excuse me, their "wack" album that only sold 59K it's first week? It's ok lil homie, I'm sure there are people out there who believe Michael Jordan was a scrub and Bill Gates is broke. Everybody is entitled to some lunacy in their lives.