Anybody ever listen to illmatic and think damn this shyt is wack

[JayBaldacci]

I used the wrong term,we were TOLD it was CLASSIC

it is a classic. there's albums that sold more initially the same year that aren't talked about like that like da brat's fake snoop dogg album. Illmatic's slow burn to platinum and Nas being able to do a 20 year aniversy tour shows it's "classic"-ness. real classic usually don't move super units.

 

[SirBiatch]

real classic usually don't move super units.

My argument has been that real classics always sell over time (they never go triple plastic forever). But their sales are in respectable amounts, not in super units.

 

[JayBaldacci]

My argument has been that real classics always sell (they never go triple plastic) but in respectable amounts, not in super units.

yeah, because they're considered great by hardcore fans but aren't noticed by pop fans.

 

[Tom Foolery]

Point out what i said that was wrong

Wrong,west coast kept dominating and nas wasnt a major factor till IWW. RTD brought NY back

1. I never said the west stopped dominating, I said it laid the foundation for the east to surge back.
2. I said Nas laid the framework with Illmatic for the East. Check the release dates on both.

You yoga pants wearing fakkit, you seem flustered. Why don't you go bike ride to the corner store, get an bottle of water and leave this thread.

 

[shakobe]

All the time

 

[Brandon M.]

what do you mean by 'fly shyt?' examples from IWW as compared to Illmatic would be nice

the whole street dreams, the message ,come on ...those are totally different from anything on ill....the message had the illmatic sample i know but he was rapping some fly shyt on there


" I never brag how real i keep it , cause its the best secret..."- take it in blood

 

[SirBiatch]

the whole street dreams, the message ,come on ...those are totally different from anything on ill....the message had the illmatic sample i know but he was rapping some fly shyt on there

yeah, but what is the definition of "fly shyt?" are you talking subject matter. elaborate please.

 

[SAINT]

I Always liked Reasonable Doubt more

 

[Brandon M.]

yeah, but what is the definition of "fly shyt?" are you talking subject matter. elaborate please.

I never brag how real I keep it,cause it's the best secret
I rock a vest prestigious,Cuban link flooded Jesus
In a Lex watching Kathie Lee and Regis
My actions are one with the seasons
A Tec squeezing executioner, wintertime I rock a fur
Mega popular center of attraction
Climaxing my bytches, they be laughing

this an example of fly shyt to me

 

[storyteller]

I've seen a lot of garbage opinions and threads in the coli, sohh, etc...but this is easily one of the absolute worst.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

i mean its only hyped up by Internet nerds but no one bumps that shyt it real life. Nothing stands out about that album like a reasonable doubt, not to mention its filled with basic ass rhymes (some that don't make sense) whereas reasonable doubt is filled with metaphors, double meanings, and just overall vibes better.

I agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

 

[SirBiatch]

I never brag how real I keep it,cause it's the best secret
I rock a vest prestigious,Cuban link flooded Jesus
In a Lex watching Kathie Lee and Regis
My actions are one with the seasons
A Tec squeezing executioner, wintertime I rock a fur
Mega popular center of attraction
Climaxing my bytches, they be laughing

this an example of fly shyt to me

lemme help you.

What you're talking about is the glossy, shallow hyper-imagination mafioso Nas that was essentially biting Big & Raekwon.

Nas has always been descriptive and fly.

 

[Pazzy]

Well... you must be young as hell because I had to discover that shyt by myself with the radio and a few Internet links like 16, 17 years ago. Those albums weren't hyped like that until the internet got into full swing. So yeah, I see what you're saying.

 

[erker]

Never

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It's kinda crazy how sales don't determine how classic an album is, ain't it?

But here we are talking about those bum ass albums (RD and illmatic) 20+ years later while ignoring Creepin on da come up which sold better than both combined.


I bet all of the posters on this site suffer from east coast bias.

kinda like white supremacy, right?

All? naw Alot ,yes