Anyone else scared about Hip Hop???

[Suicide King]

Drake is realer than a bunch of dudes pretending to be thugs in the studio

I have no problem with Drake, Rich Homie Quan, or Trinidad Jame$. Not sure why people keep attacking these artists.

I bet Trinidad Jame$ started rapping in March 2011 and got signed in June 2011.

This is the worst era in hip-hop, there is no cutting edge music coming out, because this generation is stimulated by 2Chainz.

I don't think anything will change that...

 

[Black Ball]

The internet opened up the genre to everyone. That is both a good and bad thing. The bad part being way too many rappers, way too much music dropping, the music has become very disposable, whether is quality or not. It's too easy to get so much music that there is no value or appreciation for the music anymore. Today's artists probably have dropped 3-4 times as much music as the greats of the past, but their music isn't viewed as significant whether it's as good quality wise or not. Mostly because quality music today doesn't make the lasting impact as it once did. Music is too cheap & easy to make, making it mad disposable, watered down. Hip Hop is dying from hyperinflation

 

[Suicide King]

The internet opened up the genre to everyone. That is both a good and bad thing. The bad part being way too many rappers, way too much music dropping, the music has become very disposable, whether is quality or not. It's too easy to get so much music that there is no value or appreciation for the music anymore. Today's artists probably have dropped 3-4 times as much music as the greats of the past, but their music isn't viewed as significant whether it's as good quality wise or not. Mostly because quality music today doesn't make the lasting impact as it once did. Music is too cheap & easy to make, making it mad disposable, watered down. Hip Hop is dying from hyperinflation

This is a joke. '97 had so many artist dropping music in real audio format. Then you had file sharing which got really big in '98, in '2007 is when things started to go down hill, this is around the time the South started to dominate. That's 20 years, from '97 - '07 things was never this bad.

The people who actually buys music, loves trash. The keep it real cats pirate everything in sight so its harder for artists with no "mass appeal" to get established. So the record execs push trash.

Our generation knew the consequences of 2Chainz getting hot, so we support real hip-hop. Its not hyperinflation its these fans not buy music from legit artists. Too much music or too little music is not gonna influence people supporting the real.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This is a joke. '97 had so many artist dropping music in real audio format. Then you had file sharing which got really big in '98, in '2007 is when things started to go down hill, this is around the time the South started to dominate. That's 20 years, from '97 - '07 things was never this bad.

I think the new generation who actually buys music loves trash. The keep it real cats pirate everything in sight so its harder for artists with no "mass appeal" to get established. So the record execs push trash.

Our generation knew the consequences of 2Chainz getting hot, so we support real hip-hop. Its not hyperinflation its these fans not buy music from legit artists. Too much music or too little music is not gonna influence people supporting the real.

97-07 is 20 years

And you are stretching beyond any stretch of the imagination to say filesharing was big in '98 (on fukking dial up) when only 35% of adults in the US used the net regularly (many at work not at home) and only 3% of the world. The volume of artists as not where it is now...I can look a datpiff alone for the number of releases on there dropped this year, add that to the commercial releases, and personal/commercial blog drops and it'd way outpace releases in 97.

Your point about loving trash is valid, but there are also "nice" artists who wouldn't be given the time of day by labels

 

[Suicide King]

97-07 is 20 years

And you are stretching beyond any stretch of the imagination to say filesharing was big in '98 (on fukking dial up) when only 35% of adults in the US used the net regularly (many at work not at home) and only 3% of the world. The volume of artists as not where it is now...I can look a datpiff alone for the number of releases on there dropped this year, add that to the commercial releases, and personal/commercial blog drops and it'd way outpace releases in 97.

Your point about loving trash is valid, but there are also "nice" artists who wouldn't be given the time of day by labels

The college kids had access to T1, and dial up still allowed you to download shiit load of mp3s.

And by '01 - '03 movements started to take over, dudes had music and mixtapes all the time, and the quality is way better than what's out now.

I can't entertain the thought too much music is making people not buy albums and too little music will change things. I feel a lot of fans are leeching of the culture and they are not adding nothing to it but bad jokes and insincere criticisms.

Its crazy Adele can sell a shiit load of records and our music is being burned to the ground. I see what's happening, I don't think people take hip-hop serious, and these types of fan are more accepted than people who would actual die for this music. But I feel all they are doing is sabotaging it, I loved the days when they felt unwelcomed to participate. At this point, the first page seems like a whole bunch of people mocking us.

This is worst era off all time. This era can not produce a Nas, Ice Cube, Pac, or Rakim or even a Kanye or Lupe...eras are always measured by output.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

You also gotta blame the 30/25 and under generation. I don't think we show as much maturity and insight as the one that preceded us. I was looking at cats like PAC, cube, wu tang, big, nas, Kane, rakim, etc. these dudes came out like MEN. They seem like they should be much older just based on the way they carried themselves and the music they made...I don't look at these young guys like men, there really is something missing in them

Integrity alpha male tendices and moral

 

[Black Ball]

This is a joke. '97 had so many artist dropping music in real audio format. Then you had file sharing which got really big in '98, in '2007 is when things started to go down hill, this is around the time the South started to dominate. That's 20 years, from '97 - '07 things was never this bad.

The people who actually buys music, loves trash. The keep it real cats pirate everything in sight so its harder for artists with no "mass appeal" to get established. So the record execs push trash.

Our generation knew the consequences of 2Chainz getting hot, so we support real hip-hop. Its not hyperinflation its these fans not buy music from legit artists. Too much music or too little music is not gonna influence people supporting the real.

People have always bought trash hiphop music & gimmicks, but that music didn't define the whole genre. When hip hop was filtered & limited, the assumption was that the music we were hearing on the radio and in the videos was the best that was available. There was also diversity in what was allowed to be played on these platforms. Labels would invest in an artist that had quality music even if his potential was only like gold. Now that the market is flooded, the only type or artists that are valued are those with blockbuster potential. It has nothing to do with who is able to release quality music anymore. That music will just lost in the shuffle, plus the shelf life of a quality piece of music is shyt nowadays. A release is so here today gone tomorrow, our music is so devalued.

People assume that artists today just arene't as good as those of the past, when that's BS. It's just that the talented artists are just lost in the sea of other artists releasing music. Plus as fans, we care more about who's hot from a pop-culture perspective than about who is actually making the best music. If an artist releases a great piece of music, we will shyt on them for not selling any records.

Pirating has hurt the whole music industry, but if there was a limited amount of material being released, fans would still buy music from their favorite artist. But instead everybody and they momma are allowed to release a rap album or tape. The world thinks that anybody can rap, our music is a joke in that way. It reminds me of the World Series of Poker. It's like there will never be a truly great player to win that tournament ever again since that shyt got flooded by the masses. Poker is a skill based game, but because of the sheer number of contestents, luck is more of factor than actual skill & talent at times.

 

[Suicide King]

Labels would invest in an artist that had quality music even if his potential was only like gold. Now that the market is flooded, the only type or artists that are valued are those with blockbuster potential. It has nothing to do with who is able to release quality music anymore. That music will just lost in the shuffle, plus the shelf life of a quality piece of music is shyt nowadays. A release is so here today gone tomorrow, our music is so devalued.

Gimmicks always sold. Remember B.I.G.'s first line on Flava in Ya Ear?

I don't agree too much music is being released, but the wack shiit is selling. Rich Homie Quan started rapping last year, and he released a video for his upcoming album. If nothing was selling, I would believe your argument about shelf life, staying power, and things getting lost in the shuffle.

The artists with no "mass appeal" get lost in the shovel, because the few fans they "appeal" to will pirate their music. Whereas, someone who likes Trinidad Jame$ will buy his album and go to his concert.

Soon, that is what is going to dominate, because it will be the only thing that sells.

Good music will KEEP getting downloaded and bootlegged, because fans of "quality" raps have an overabundance of music so they "devalue" the music. Keep letting people like 2Chainz get hot and see what happens.

Pirating has hurt the whole music industry, but if there was a limited amount of material being released, fans would still buy music from their favorite artist.

Wow at the logic. You want to create an artificial environment?

 

[The Message]

You also gotta blame the 30/25 and under generation. I don't think we show as much maturity and insight as the one that preceded us. I was looking at cats like PAC, cube, wu tang, big, nas, Kane, rakim, etc. these dudes came out like MEN. They seem like they should be much older just based on the way they carried themselves and the music they made...I don't look at these young guys like men, there really is something missing in them

This is a generation of cats who grew up with no daddys or no strong male presence in their lives.....and it shows in thd music.

 

[mozichrome]

yall are free to stop listening to rap at any point
but this continuous biitching yall do.....that really need to stop

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nikkas are complaining about "cutting edge" but don't know what they want

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It just seems artist just release they little albums and they just come and go now, with no real substance, no artform, no maximum creativity. I am a little nervous because there is no artist 2day i can say is bringing constant fire like it was back in the 90's and early 00's. r.i.p. hiphop

what do you mean by "lack of substance?"

Do you want artists who rap about drone strikes and the stock market?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ya'll cornballs forget that by the time you heard a song in the 90s, it was planned to be there and there was less access to the market.

There is a lower barrier to enter the market.

Its not that the 90s were SO MUCH BETTER.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

True dat.....sadly hip hop is overly regulated by the 'Big Wigs' these days & its getting worse by the cycle.... Its shocking really to see how much it has been watered down /crippled....especially when you do the math and compare & contrast against other prolific music genres... declination in process indeed!

Whats funny is that you got it backwards. Hiphop was MORE controlled back then.

The labels have less control than they've ever had.

Ya'll don't hear me tho...

 

[MINT]

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