Are "c00ns" salvageable after that wake up call?

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There's a difference between finding yourself as a person, figuring out and discovering your purpose in life as opposed to being a straight up c00n conner of the community, bucking and shucking everytime for cac acceptance, mentally aligning with whites and selling out your race for cac coins. The issue that I see is that we are way too forgiving when it comes to other people's faults. Draw the line between forgiveness and being easily swayed or manipulated.
Nicole,

Respect.

I disagree on the description of Malcolm's story as being one of "finding oneself." He was very clear in his autobiography that he was so lost that he fought against the welcoming of the brother who tried to enlighten him. Inmate # _____, aka Malcolm Little, convicted of larceny, charged AND JUDGED for patronizing with white women, his " white look" perm frizzy from being unkempt, was drowning in ignorance. And he did not know how to swim. He was thrown multiple lifesavers, floats and still almost drowned. But one brother knew he was lost because of too many variables outside of his control.

Malcolm only found himself after he was fortunately blessed with inclusion by a much more educated black man.


You sound like an inferior clown with this close minded is European shyt. Get off their dikks. Close mindedness is something any person regardless of race can be smfh.
Breh, you sound so angry.

You legit sound like you NEVER question yourself on whether you could be wrong.

Get off their dikks? Breh, looking at world history, WW1 to be specific, the level of divisiveness, ignorance and close mindedness is exactly what led to the senseless deaths of over 37 million deaths. So many of the decision makers that contributed to that war were actually related. These were all of these greedy european leaders who couldn't just stop for a minute and reflect on "Hmm...Could I be wrong? Could I be contributing to some dumb ass shyt? Am I close minded?".

Tell me the rules of the game of dialogue you follow so I can actually have a fukking mature dialogue with you.

Otherwise, you win, breh. The way you are trying to bully a nikka like me(comical when I think about it) who is trying to actually have a back and forth...that's the wave, breh? Aight, you win. :martin:
 

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Nicole,

Respect.

I disagree on the description of Malcolm's story as being one of "finding oneself." He was very clear in his autobiography that he was so lost that he fought against the welcoming of the brother who tried to enlighten him. Inmate # _____, aka Malcolm Little, convicted of larceny, charged AND JUDGED for patronizing with white women, his " white look" perm frizzy from being unkempt, was drowning in ignorance. And he did not know how to swim. He was thrown multiple lifesavers, floats and still almost drowned. But one brother knew he was lost because of too many variables outside of his control.

Malcolm only found himself after he was fortunately blessed with inclusion by a much more educated black man.



Breh, you sound so angry.

You legit sound like you NEVER question yourself on whether you could be wrong.

Get off their dikks? Breh, looking at world history, WW1 to be specific, the level of divisiveness, ignorance and close mindedness is exactly what led to the senseless deaths of over 37 million deaths. So many of the decision makers that contributed to that war were actually related. These were all of these greedy european leaders who couldn't just stop for a minute and reflect on "Hmm...Could I be wrong? Could I be contributing to some dumb ass shyt? Am I close minded?".

Tell me the rules of the game of dialogue you follow so I can actually have a fukking mature dialogue with you.

Otherwise, you win, breh. The way you are trying to bully a nikka like me(comical when I think about it) who is trying to actually have a back and forth...that's the wave, breh? Aight, you win. :martin:
Y’all truly have to stop using bytches talking points. You can’t sound angry over typed fukking words nikka. It’s just not possible no matter how much y’all want it to be so.

Why would I question myself on if I’m wrong on something I’m not wrong about? Save all the filibustering fam. All I said was that being close minded isnt a specific race trait period. Now I’m trying to bully you because I think your viewpoint is stupid on what I spoke about? Man y’all cats are really fukking soft. Of course I win because there was no competition to my saying being close minded isn’t a race specific trait. The only rules of dialogue victim is that you make sense and stop kicking that coli echo chamber nonsense
 

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Nicole,

Respect.

I disagree on the description of Malcolm's story as being one of "finding oneself." He was very clear in his autobiography that he was so lost that he fought against the welcoming of the brother who tried to enlighten him. Inmate # _____, aka Malcolm Little, convicted of larceny, charged AND JUDGED for patronizing with white women, his " white look" perm frizzy from being unkempt, was drowning in ignorance. And he did not know how to swim. He was thrown multiple lifesavers, floats and still almost drowned. But one brother knew he was lost because of too many variables outside of his control.

Malcolm only found himself after he was fortunately blessed with inclusion by a much more educated black man.
I understand, appreciate you explaining that to me.
 

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Didnt wayne say he never experienced racism ? You gotta remember..some of these nikkas be child stars and playing an image..rich and taken care of all their life..

Might b possible they never really encountered the shyt like us regular brehs.

:yeshrug:
That's an excuse. He knows what he's doing and well aware of societal disparities. Stop making excuses for willful ignorance and lack of accountability to your own race. Most of the time he didn't want to fuk up his c00n coins. Being the "safe and complacent" black man role, making white people comfortable and not rocking the boat.
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Didnt wayne say he never experienced racism ? You gotta remember..some of these nikkas be child stars and playing an image..rich and taken care of all their life..

Might b possible they never really encountered the shyt like us regular brehs.

:yeshrug:
There's levels. Y'all fake woke nikkas get offended everytime a white person says nigggggger, some people legit don't give a shyt. People call names who gives a fucck? Lil Wayne getting his money.

Then you fake woke niggggas talking bout yall selling your values for wealth okay and? Just because ya boss doesn't openly call you a niggggger doesn't mean he don't think you shiit.

Then you want reperations from the same evil no good people. What happened to your value system? Oh but thats diffrent right?

Bottom line is you woke nigggas is goofy as fucck and have no clue what you want.
 
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They are because we salvage businesses and non-black people that are anti black off of a half ass, well im sorry n*gger type apology

We grow as people, he may not be the same person when he comes out
 

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Some people are raised ignorsnt..they cant help it unless someone else educates them..imo
At a certain point in your life- you make the decision to educate yourself. At one point, my mom had me in Jack and Jill, going to debutante balls, social events around the most whitewashed disrespectful c00ns, enrolling me in those majority white private "upper schools" and always maintaining "appearances" for corporate events with her associates. My father was the total opposite-racial pride and knowledgeable, he wanted nothing to do with white people or their ways. Being that I was the only girl in the family, statistically, I could have turned out a lot different in terms of mentality. But I knew that I wanted to learn and be more engaged. I was always reading or questioning. I say all that make the point that I don't care how far removed from black society that a person thinks they are - if it is inherent to want to empower and be empowered your own race; then you will make it happen for yourself. A person will seek out ways to become engaged. Being a c00n is a choice.
 

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How does one consciously decide to become a “c—n”? Who is the arbiter on who becomes a “c—n” or not and when did the connotative definition of the c-word supersede the denotative definition of the c-word?
Great post.

From what it seems...

  1. Person A is born and raised in a household that severely lacks intellectual growth.
  2. That household suffers from that lack of an environment of cultivation because of the dysfunctional and racist institutions' damage on the community that houses the family of Person A.
  3. Years of abuse, isolation and the degradation of that community bring about a new "normal".
  4. This new normal that Person A is raised in is influenced by the racial bias exhibited by the
    • teachers
    • (who have ethically and immorally low expectations for Person A and his/her peers),
    • law enforcement agents (who patrol the community with a suspicious eye and treat person A and his/her peers like they are uncivilized and violent hoodlums from birth) and
    • politicians (who praise harsh police policy and family destroying prison sentences)

  5. Person A's new normal has culminated in Person A being tragically indoctrinated with self hating viewpoints.
  6. Society has made every attempt intentionally/unintentionally to show person A that people who look like person A are ignorant, dangerous and destined for low status/hierarchy.
  7. Person A's behavior is unsurprisingly colored by YEARS of self hating views.

^ See THIS is where almost all of us agree. Unfortunately, this is the crossroad between 1) those who use the above mentioned trajectory to understand how Person A developed self hating behavior and opinions as a result of MANY overwhelming variables outside of Person A's control and 2) those who seem to completely disregard how uncontrollable variables can influence a human being from birth and decide that somehow Person A has DECIDED to be a "c00n" and DECIDED to be an ignorant "agent" of white supremacist agendas.

My opinion is that those who are able to effortlessly throw the word "c00n" at almost anything another black person does/says/thinks that is not as hard-lined as the self-appointed arbiter of "the right way to be black" is contributing to the splintering of the black base just as much as anyone else they are judging.
 

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No such thing as a wake up call or a c00n

Yes it is. And yes, c00ns can be redeemed. A lot of them are running on anger or have been indoctrinated. It's possible for an experience to occur where they realized what they've been doing and saying and repent. :manny:

The question is will black people forgive them like they forgive white church shooters? :mjpls:
 

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Yes it is. And yes, c00ns can be redeemed. A lot of them are running on anger or have been indoctrinated. It's possible for an experience to occur where they realized what they've been doing and saying and repent. :manny:

The question is will black people forgive them like they forgive white church shooters? :mjpls:
How is it a wakeup call in this situation when the two subjects have nothing to do with each other? Also what’s the time allowed for these “wakeup calls” because 3yrs passed between these two unrelated situations. Lastly what happens to regular people that have the same situation happen? Was that their wakeup call or do you call it something else?
 
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