Are The Cavs In Trouble Brehs?

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clippers in the finals :mjgrin:
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They're looking like the 2014 Heat right now, they slipped on defense (Not nearly as bad as this) and generally looked old throughout the year.

I think they're in some trouble, they got a bunch of older players playing major minutes.
And just like then, LeBron is being asked to do way too much. 14 year guys shouldn't lead the league in minutes. The one thing is that they have size that the heat didn't have and last I looked they were better rebounding than the heat were. I don't think that the finals would be quite as lopsided, but it's hard to see them pushing the warriors with how they've defended lately.
 

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Garuntee they won't make it back to the finals this year due to attrition

Celtics and I.T/Crowder are a whole new beast this year

Toranto got significantly better with the Ibaka/PJ Tucker trade plus Lowry going to be fresh for the playoffs

Milwaukee for a whole lot better

Kemba Walker and the Hornets are a whole lot better

Wall,Beal,Bogdanovic is a totally different team from previous years

Low-key the East coast is no longer a cakewalk:whoo:
 
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The east almost never has multiple contenders that are realistically championship caliber at the same time going all the way back to the 80's honestly. There was Miami and Boston and Chicago in 2011 (rose got hurt in 2012 so that year is left out), there was Boston and Detroit in 2008, Miami and Detroit in 2005 and 2006, there was Orlando and Chicago in 1996, Detroit and Chicago in 1990, and the first half of the 80's was Boston and Philadelphia, while the second half of the decade was Boston and Detroit. I say leave the seeding as it is in regard to each side of the bracket is one conference because it usually saves the better matchups for later.
I don't quite follow what you're saying at the end. The league would be better off if all teams had a relatively equal path to the Finals.

The regular season would mean more and the playoffs would be more compelling. I wouldn't be concerned with schedule balance either. More than half the league is getting in anyway.
 

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I don't quite follow what you're saying at the end. The league would be better off if all teams had a relatively equal path to the Finals.

The regular season would mean more and the playoffs would be more compelling. I wouldn't be concerned with schedule balance either. More than half the league is getting in anyway.
I'm saying that the east being short on contenders to challenge its top team isn't really new. A decent amount of the time there's one team, but just as frequently the east is a foregone conclusion.
 
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I'm saying that the east being short on contenders to challenge its top team isn't really new. A decent amount of the time there's one team, but just as frequently the east is a foregone conclusion.
We agree. I just think the playoffs would be much more compelling with 1-16 seeding.
 

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We agree. I just think the playoffs would be much more compelling with 1-16 seeding.
They might be, but I guess it's a matter of the league not wanting it's teams flying drastically far across country for a non finals series. The east needs some excitement for sure though. 2014-today has been very dull in the way of anticipation until the finals.
 

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They were without their best player for the majority of the first two rounds, and played a better squad ('15/'16 OKC) than LeBron ever came up against en route to the Finals. Facts.
:childplease: Those teams werent any good

Rockets were nothing like this year. They looked ready to miss the playoffs for much of the year and barely snuck in w a .500 record :comeon:

Blazers had no business in the 2nd round and you know it :ufdup: Coincidental freak injuries benefitted them and by extension the Warriors of course, because it always does.

Then they were down 3-1 to yes a very good OKC squad, until Draymond called KD, asked wtf he was doing, reminded him of the plan and well, we saw how the rest of that series went :manny:

Nothing impressive to speak of. Facts.
 

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They might be, but I guess it's a matter of the league not wanting it's teams flying drastically far across country for a non finals series. The east needs some excitement for sure though. 2014-today has been very dull in the way of anticipation until the finals.
With the way each series gets spread out with 2-3 days between cities, I don't see how it would be a problem anymore.
 
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:childplease: Those teams werent any good

Rockets were nothing like this year. They looked ready to miss the playoffs for much of the year and barely snuck in w a .500 record :comeon:

Blazers had no business in the 2nd round and you know it :ufdup: Coincidental freak injuries benefitted them and by extension the Warriors of course, because it always does.

Then they were down 3-1 to yes a very good OKC squad, until Draymond called KD, asked wtf he was doing, reminded him of the plan and well, we saw how the rest of that series went :manny:

Nothing impressive to speak of. Facts.
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