Are The Roots the most overrated group of all time

[Wacky D]

". There's a lot of things that culminated into Atlanta being the Black Hollywood. You could say La Face played a role in that, but even saying that, you can't just discredit OutKast or even Goodie Mob. Those groups gave the mainstream a cultural and historical view of Atlanta more so than any other act on La Face ever did. Other events helped propel Atlanta into what it is now which include the Atlanta Braves being a staple in the World Series in the 90's (and finally winning one in '95), Atlanta hosting the '96 Olympic games (which brought the world to Atlanta and is possibly one of the single most important events that put Atlanta where it's at). That's not including Freaknik. A lot of this coincided with OutKast and Goodie Mob blowing up. I know you're not in here trying to argue that Atlanta was Black Hollywood in 1991 because that was before OutKast or Goodie Mob were signed. Kast signed with La Face in '92 and Goodie signed somewhere between '92 and '94. Atlanta has been known for much such as being influential during the Civil Rights movement, but it wasn't exactly a Black Hollywood.

Where did I say Bone Thugs and Wu Tang weren't the biggest groups of that era? I asked for your opinion on why Bone and Wu are upper A-List. What criteria are you basing this on?

Goodie Mob wasn't a spin off of OutKast. Again, it was it's own group. The only thing you could be alluding to with this is that Goodie Mob's debut was initially going to be a Dungeon Family group album specifically because DF was initially called Goodie Mob.

f*ck it. I cant help but to respond,

outkast & goodie mob didn't play a role in chit. they were beneficiaries. Atlanta was already one of the places to be, before they even got signed to laface. LIKE I SAID, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT.

you talking bout the Olympics and chit. that has nothing to do with black music for one. plus the Olympics were '96. Atlanta was already poppin years before that. I'm talking before Barcelona.

this dude in here talking bout the muhf*ckin Olympics.

if bone thugs & wutang weren't clearly the biggest groups, then how are they not upper A-list? cmon man. be smart.

again, you dont know what a spinoff is. why do you do this to yourself man?

Hot Boys- out of the three albums they dropped, only one of them made an impact (Guerilla Warfare)

Geto Boys- definitely over Goodie

TRU- Tru 2 Da Game is the only real contender from the group and even that one's arguable. TRUE, while dope, is really only known for the original "Bout It" and it's overshadowed by "Bout It II" which came the following year. Da Crime Family isn't noteworthy at all even though I liked it then and still listen to some of the songs now. I don't even count that album they dropped in '05.

8Ball & MJG- Got them over Goodie

OutKast- got them over Goodie

UGK- got them over Goodie

Big Tymers- Nah. They had some dope songs, but overall, they ain't seeing Goodie Mob

3-6 Mafia- Yeah.

hot boys 1st album was a big deal independently. that's the main thing that got them the deal with universal, aside from universal's grudge against no limit.
the 3rd album is not acknowledged. it was just a money grab of old tracks laying around. and they had wayne go in and re-do his verses.

wheres goodie mob's "tru 2 da game"? where is their "crime family" run?

big tymers made better music than goodie.

either way, you agree that goodie isn't top 5. my work is done.

And you're really going to sit there and say I end up arguing with 1 or 2 people that are agreeing with you? You're in threads arguing with multiple people using multi-quotes like they are going out of style. Then on top of that when people ask you to clarify or justify what you've stated, you don't even attempt to.

you want me to drop links?

that would also give me a reason to upp some of my old threads and do some stat-padding. you dont want that.

 

[JustCKing]

f*ck it. I cant help but to respond,

outkast & goodie mob didn't play a role in chit. they were beneficiaries. Atlanta was already one of the places to be, before they even got signed to laface. LIKE I SAID, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT.

you talking bout the Olympics and chit. that has nothing to do with black music for one. plus the Olympics were '96. Atlanta was already poppin years before that. I'm talking before the Barcelona.

this dude in here talking bout the muhf*ckin Olympics.

if bone thugs & wutang weren't clearly the biggest groups, then how are they not upper A-list? cmon man. be smart.

again, you dont know what a spinoff is. why do you do this to yourself man?

Do you know how crazy it sounds to say Outkast and Goodie Mob didn't play a role in anything? Outside of being based in Atlanta, what artists on La Face would you really know were from Atlanta just from listening to the music outside of OutKast and Goodie Mob at the time? Later they had, Youngbloodz, but they didn't really take off until crunk became a thing. Musically, OutKast and Goodie Mob were pioneers of Atlanta's sound. Their producers (Organized Noize) even helped propel TLC to levels above and beyond with "Waterfalls".

You're talking about Black Hollywood, which entails more than just music, but all facets of entertainment. We're talking about people coming to Atlanta to direct movies, celebrities moving here, and a city that produces celebrities. You can't really sit there and say that the '96 Olympics didn't raise Atlanta's profile exponentially and was key in it becoming Black Hollywood more so than La Face records.

Again, you like to argue so much that you don't even see that I'm not arguing against Bone Thugs and Wu Tang being the biggest groups. I'm asking for YOUR criteria of what makes a group upper A List as opposed to just being A List.

 

[JustCKing]

hot boys 1st album was a big deal independently. that's the main thing that got them the deal with universal, aside from universal's grudge against no limit.
the 3rd album is not acknowledged. it was just a money grab of old tracks laying around. and they had wayne go in and re-do his verses.

wheres goodie mob's "tru 2 da game"? where is their "crime family" run?

big tymers made better music than goodie.

either way, you agree that goodie isn't top 5. my work is done.




you want me to drop links?

that would also give me a reason to upp some of my old threads and do some stat-padding. you dont want that.

Get It How You Live did not get CMR their deal with Universal. B.G.'s It's All On U did that.

Soul Food is Goodie's Tru 2 Da Game and there was no Da Crime Family run.

Big Tymers making better music is irrelevant since one could easily say Goodie Mob made better music.

 

[Wacky D]

@JustCKing do you communicate like this in real life?

if so, how many times have you gotten beat up over it?

I'm not arguing with you about that atlant chit no more man. you have no clue what youre talking about.

Get It How You Live did not get CMR their deal with Universal. B.G.'s It's All On U did that.

Soul Food is Goodie's Tru 2 Da Game and there was no Da Crime Family run.

Big Tymers making better music is irrelevant since one could easily say Goodie Mob made better music.

you may be right about the BG. but I remember that hot boys albums sold 400k independent.

yes there was a crime family run. you were prolly in the house.

ehh, if you think that highly of soul food, then to each his own.

 

[JustCKing]

@JustCKing do you communicate like this in real life?

if so, how many times have you gotten beat up over it?

I'm not arguing with you about that atlant chit no more man. you have no clue what youre talking about.





you may be right about the BG. but I remember that hot boys albums sold 400k independent.

yes there was a crime family run. you were prolly in the house.

ehh, if you think that highly of soul food, then to each his own.

Argue your point. Other than that. Don't even address me.

You're not arguing because you really have no grasp on what you're talking about. You come up with a premise and then support with an outlandish claim. When you're called out on the claim, you back down and try to make the person whose calling you out look like they don't know what they are talking about. You're talking about La Face being this machine, but ignore the fact that OutKast and Goodie Mob were the only successful Hip Hop acts on the label. All while overlooking the fact that they also had YoungBloodz, who weren't nearly as successful with La Face despite them even putting out "85" which featured Big Boi. Then on top of that, you claim that La Face is responsible for Atlanta becoming a Black Hollywood, but still won't acknowledge OutKast's and Goodie Mob's role along with TLC in helping establish a musical presence in Atlanta.

What Get It How You Live sold or didn't sell isn't the point. It wasn't making noise and it's not even a Top 10 CMR release.

Da Crime Family didn't have a run and I actually bought the album a week or two after it came out.

 

[Street Knowledge]

I liked how I got over

 

[Harry B]

Change the word overrated to underrated, the most consistent hiphop act after Outkast (who wins due to them only having 5 albums).

We're talking about 93 to 2011, several classics, and no weak albums .

Illadelph, Things fall a part, Game Theory and Phrenology are amazing, thank you for creating my playlist for next week

 

[Wacky D]

Argue your point. Other than that. Don't even address me.

What Get It How You Live sold or didn't sell isn't the point. It wasn't making noise and it's not even a Top 10 CMR release.

Da Crime Family didn't have a run and I actually bought the album a week or two after it came out.

I'm not arguing with you about the Atlanta chit anymore. you have no clue what youre talking about. go watch the Olympics clown.

lol @ "get it how you live" not making noise.

I don't care what you bought. this aint your lane. stick to number-crunching.

 

[Forlife44]

 

[JustCKing]

I'm not arguing with you about the Atlanta chit anymore. you have no clue what youre talking about. go watch the Olympics clown.

lol @ "get it how you live" not making noise.

I don't care what you bought. this aint your lane. stick to number-crunching.

The fact that you think La Face Records had a bigger impact on Atlanta becoming as big as it as than the Olympics says everything. The Olympics brought the world to Atlanta. People that never heard of Atlanta before were now up on the city. People that actually lived and grew up in Atlanta prior to the Olympics will tell you that. Some will even tell you that even though it raised the profile of the city and put it on a world front, that it also brought the city down because any and everybody was pouring into it.

Get It How You Live did not make any noise. Prior to making it big, it was B.G. and Juvenile as solo artists who were impacting. The Hot Boys as a group was nowhere near that level.

Clearly, this isn't your lane since you think Get It How You Live was the album that got CMR's deal with Universal and actually thinking Da Crime Family had any semblance of a run. That album didn't make much noise at all even in comparison to other albums that they'd released that year.

 

[MufasaChoppa]

didn't read the thread yet, but this song is fire

 

[TheNig]

They been giving us 20 years of good consistent organic music and now they're overrated....