Are triple doubles even special anymore?

[Floyd Pinkerton]

Im just here to complain about nothing

You've come to the right place

 

[Alexander The Great]

you'd be a fool to think triple doubles are anything special in todays nba. the game has changed so much even over just the last 5 years. Steph Curry really impacted the league like crazy. the number of 3s taken per game has gone up, everyone plays small ball now. the uptick in triple doubles has to do with the style of play more than the pace of play. a lot less post play, feeding the "big man" in the post and watching him go to work, a lot more drive and kick, pick and roll, move the ball, find the assist. also small ball leads to wings/guards getting more rebounds along with more assists. etc, etc, etc.

it makes for a more "efficient" offensive game, hence the amazing stat lines we see. that and the absolute terrible/non existent defense

 

[MJ Truth]

It coincides with the 3 point attempts going up so much, creating much longer rebounds for smaller players to be able to get.

 

[01King]

Dudes are obviously stat padding.

 

[Hugo Floss]

Thank you for this thread:
Ive been putting it off but im getting Lasix very soon.

I read *Are triple entredres entrees special*

 

[Forlife44]

1. Another thread trying to diminish lebron'a historic season

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Hasn't average team assists increased? I'm assuming it has because post ups and 1 on 1 isolation plays don't result in assists.

Then there's the fact with more spacing and smaller PFs that more rebounds have become available for guards and wing players.

In combination there's more triple doubles.


And the biggest problem people have is with Westbrook, but I'm pretty sure the Thunder's record when he records a triple double is insanely good.

I believe they win 66% of the time when he steals rebounds. Then again these people chastise Russ for stifling other people's growth but ignore the fact that Steven Adams had a great year

 

[Blurneed]

Meh, If u have more than 2 triple doubles in like a 5 game span you’re stat passing idgaf if ur Oscar, Bron, Russ whoever. There’s literally no need to get one nor is it necessarily the reasons for ur team winning. Very rarely do I see a triple double and say “ wow he really worked for that”. Usage rate and minutes played usually will tell u the whole story. In Russ instance his usage rate allows for triple doubles. In Brons instance he just plays 40+ mins till the numbers fall in his lap.

If the media and fans didn’t suck off nikkas who pads stats then u wouldn't see nikkas thirsty to get them it’s simple. Hate to say it but Bron getting so much love compared to other legends is directly correlated to his numbers. I think ppl started to notice and next thing u know everybody going for numbers. Oh well

 

[threattonature]

Yeah the pace today is 97.3 and was 96.4 last year, in the 90s you didn't start seeing the game slow down until they moved the three point line closer. The pace was 91.1 in 2012 as well.

The late 90s and early 00s are when the game grinded to a halt, outside of that the game has always been fast pace.

I thought the Cavs played a huge role in page slowing down too when they took a garbage roster to the playoffs by slowing the game to a crawl with the thought that with minimizing total possessions in a game it gives a less talented team a better chance of winning. In 94-95 they dropped to an 84.8 and managed to make the playoffs which lead to more teams following suit in the years that followed.

 

[threattonature]

Yeah the pace today is 97.3 and was 96.4 last year, in the 90s you didn't start seeing the game slow down until they moved the three point line closer. The pace was 91.1 in 2012 as well.

The late 90s and early 00s are when the game grinded to a halt, outside of that the game has always been fast pace.

I thought the Cavs played a huge role in pace slowing down too when they took a garbage roster to the playoffs by slowing the game to a crawl with the thought that with minimizing total possessions in a game it gives a less talented team a better chance of winning. In 94-95 they dropped to an 84.8 and managed to make the playoffs which lead to more teams following suit in the years that followed.

 

[threattonature]

Overall triple doubles are still impressive as hell. It still takes a hell of a lot of effort and skill to fill up a box score like that. Hell I think Russ is the only one in the league over 10 assists a game so how would that not be impressive. It would be less impressive if there was 20-30 players across the league putting up double digit assists but as is it's not.

 

[FS4LFE]

Y’all gonna lose it in twenty years when Wilts record 100 point game gets broken.

 

[jwinfield]

Yeah the pace today is 97.3 and was 96.4 last year, in the 90s you didn't start seeing the game slow down until they moved the three point line closer. The pace was 91.1 in 2012 as well.

The late 90s and early 00s are when the game grinded to a halt, outside of that the game has always been fast pace.

Yeah, but clotheslines and powerbombs were up too, so it all balances out.

 

[ISO]

'WRong.

The rule changes got you thinking players are better .

Triple doubles went from AMAZING if you did it 6 times in a season.

now guys doing it 20+ times like it's nothing. you think the players got better? lies

See in 2004 when threes were at 5? that's when the Pistons were dominating and ratings were at their low. Why you think Nash came out of no where and won 2 MVPs? Why you think 3 players suddenly scored 30 ppg (Kobe, AI and Bron) that year ? Rule changes fukked all that up.

nowadays with threes, you cant put a slow, rim protector only guy anymore. Because he will get killed in the pick and roll. Now you got smaller guys having to guard with crazy defensive rotations. Better chance for a Russ or anybody who really wants a rebound because they dont gotta compete with a 7'1" guy for it anymore.

The smaller big men, spread offenses that lead into insane # of 3PAs lead to longer rebounds for perimeter players.

league is a joke nowadays. lol @ this guy Jokic having the fastest triple double ever

You don’t know what you’re talking about...please stfu

 

[ISO]

that and the absolute terrible/non existent defense

It’s not that the defense is non-existent.

Defending the high P&R+shooters is not easy. Wtf can you do when LeBron runs a high P&R and zips a bullet pass to J.R. Smith who manages to hit a contested corner three?

Wtf can you do when Harden and Steph extract the mismatch and just dance and hit 25 foot threes.

The early mid 2010’s was an elite defensive era because teams started running zones and loading the weak side, forcing long twos (think Thibs Bulls, ‘11 Mavs) the league responded by shooting more threes.