Devilinurear
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Why do it if god already thought out everything?
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That line of questioning stems from the teaching of religions.
If on one hand you're preaching that God is all powerful, and all good, then how do you reconcile that with all the vile shyt that happens on this planet? The answer is always some apologist shyt like "God works in mysterious ways", "Who are we to question the will of God", or "it's a test".
To me none of those are an acceptable answer as why little children are being raped, organs harvested, murdered, starving, etc.
It's either this being doesn't exist, or he exists, and is NOT all good/powerful. Either way, simply contradictory text that should be questioned...
Theres reasons to pray...
Not to change anything, keep that connection.
And again, u guys are thinking about things in a real simplistic way.
We dont know if us praying can make a change or not...
But that's not even the important part.
What do u think created the universe and everything in it...
All of the order we have in the universe?
I don't know. And I'm very comfortable with that because I don't have to comfort myself with a lie.
Anyone that puts forth a claim that they know, and can prove the universe was created by a being will instantly become the most famous person on the planet. In other words, that has yet to be proven.
This what I'm trying to say to u brother and ur not getting it...
To YOU.... A HUMAN BEING... all those bad things are sooo terrible and a God should try to stop those things...
In nature, right now a gazelle is being eaten by a lion...
30yrs ago a kid burned alive in a house.
100yrs ago somewhere a whole village starved to death because of famine.
God seen it all. A power that could create worlds, understanding is beyond ur understanding.
U get sad over shyt like that.
To a God, That's equivalent to a child being sad over losing its stuff animal.
You still probly wont understand that part.
But if u were able to hear God speak to you...
U would hear him say "There's levels to this, bruh"
Cool... but I would lean more toward there being intelligent design by a creator, than some random collection of things happening because of a random event
Devilinurear
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So if prayung makes no difference why do it?
And to answer your question I dont know.
But I also know nobody knows where we came from.
No disrespect...
But why do u talk to ur mother... even if she cant do anything for u... u appreciate her and u talk to her.
U tell God what's on ur mind.
U show that u appreciate the things he does for u that you dont even know about.
Do u make ur lungs move? Do you control if ur going to get sick or not.
Who is the one who opens doors for u and gives u opportunities? Is it you?
If you've been programmed since you were a child that there is a god, you're gonna hang onto that shyt in spite of all the lack of evidence that supports the existence of one.
And inevitably, the last response from the believer will come down to "I feel him in my life" or "I feel it to be true". As if feelings ever proved anything.
These arguments are a waste of time.
And inevitably, the last response from the believer will come down to "I feel him in my life" or "I feel it to be true". As if feelings ever proved anything.
These arguments are a waste of time.
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Before you start describing what God is, his powers, etc. you have to prove that he exists. Everything else is moot until you can support that first proposition.
Look at it this way, there are thousands of Gods humans believe in. Suppose there IS a Creator. Which one do you believe in? If you're truly interested in what's true, then what reliable method do you have in determining who is the one true Creator? Jesus, Allah, Vishnu, etc
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Good question...
1st YOU have to believe there is a creator.
I'm not talking about religion.
I'm talking about you looking around, really seeing what goes on.
And saying to urself "ok something created all this shyt".
I've already done that.
Fast forward 15yrs later, I've learned more about the entity that was able to create something like this.
That last part about "who is the true creator"...
Is you just confusing yourself a bit.
Allah and jesus have never been confused for each other lol
And any other name of God is fine... it means the same thing.
Just different peoples and religions have different names for the one they believe created.
But all that stuff isnt even important, if ur trying to figure out if theres a God.
1st just look around and look deeply into urself.
If u still dont see it, then cool .
Just try tho
Continuing on this point..
I thought y'all would have more questions..
When you shift your question from "what can God do for me?", to understanding that you are a part of "God", and hold within yourself the same attributes that make up Him/Her/It, that shifts the responsiblity from relying on an outside entity caring for you, to realizing that you play a vital role in the maintainaince of this Body, so you start asking "what can I do to maintain the health of the Body of God?"
What you can do is gain knowledge on the laws and principles that "God" used to create and maintain the Universe, attain the wisdom that in order to assist with maintaining the health of the Body of God, you need to make sure that you are playing your part in this maintenance by applying your knowledge, and then you will understand that no matter how small of a roll you play in this maintenance, you play a vital role, and you will begin to spread the knowledge and wisdom that you've gained, because it's not just about you, it takes every single particle, of every single electron, making up every single atom, to maintain the health of our planet, our solar system, our galaxy, and ultimately, our Universe.
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Verbal Kint
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He's basically saying 'I understand it but I don't like it'. Which is fine. Personally those questions aren't that hard for me. Essentially we all want the freedom to either reject or ignore God and live how we want...but then when others make that choice but the 'live how they want' harms other people, particularly kids, we then question the same God we reject or ignore.
Like 'well I don't want to do what God says because I like sex too much even though You said it's a sin but God why don't you stop those folks over there from committing those sins that I don't like because they're hurting people in ways that are obvious to me'. It's ultimately short sighted. Either you're good with EVERYONE having free will or you're not.
Like 'well I don't want to do what God says because I like sex too much even though You said it's a sin but God why don't you stop those folks over there from committing those sins that I don't like because they're hurting people in ways that are obvious to me'. It's ultimately short sighted. Either you're good with EVERYONE having free will or you're not.
I did at one point because I was brought up to believe in one.
Aside from having it drilled into your head, and it giving your life meaning, why does there have to be a Creator?
What if I looked around, and came to the conclusion that everything was created by a Unicorn?
Would you agree/disagree? Why?
I no longer care to believe something for the sake of it. If I'm to believe in something extraordinary like a Creator, then there has to be extraordinary evidence to support to belief.
People have been killing each other over a millennia over these "God"s. It does not mean the same thing. Each of them truly believe their God is the one true Creator that's worthy of worship. I'm just asking, from a neutral standpoint, how can you determine who is right?