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As someone who looks at payroll data at many different companies.

100k is basically entry level salary for programmers and comp engineers. After 5 years it's about 130k-150k. This is purely Bay Area.

But 90k is median income out here, so 100k ain't that much. you can't live by yourself on a 100k.

Yaw geeks are hilarious.

Wake up. The average person in this country makes 25-40k. You can live anywhere on 100k a year. Yaw stay daydreaming on the internet.
 

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Been on Codecademy for the past 4 days

:yeshrug:

Started with HTML (I knew some very basic shyt) and CSS

I'm gonna jump into the Java next.

:lolbron:

Not as hard as people make it seem but I pick up on things quick. But I can see how someone would look at it and go :whoa:

Not looking to make 100K right out the gate but I know there's some $$$$$ in it for me (and all of us)

:salute:
:whoa: although codeacdemy is good dont get too carried away. Programming is all about proving what you know, stick to one or two languages and try to actually CREATE something website or application. No one will give a shyt how much syntax you know, the most important thing is can you actually create something? Even when applying for programming jobs you will get asked to show your portfolio or create something. If all you know is syntax you are going to be looking :umad::damn::ufdup: in the interview.

if you area really bout it bout it signup to github :spirte:
 

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Yaw geeks are hilarious.

Wake up. The average person in this country makes 25-40k. You can live anywhere on 100k a year. Yaw stay daydreaming on the internet.


Nah... The Average track house in Bay Area is 1 million dollars*. Just regular 1 to 2k sqft house is 1 million dollars. If you think 100k is going to cut out here, you're crazy

Rent for a decent apartment in San Jose is closing in at 3k a month. It's 2k a month on average in the HOOD areas of San Jose.


I wanna see someone out here making 100k in the Bay Area living like a baller
 
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Nah... The Average track house in Bay Area is 1 million dollars*. Just regular 1 to 2k sqft house is 1 million dollars.

What's your point? Are you insinuating that the majority of the citizens in the bay are home owners? They aren't.

And having a million dollars liquid is not required when purchasing a million dollar home.

If you think 100k is going to cut out here, you're crazy

100K you can live anywhere, especially with good credit.
 

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What's your point? Are you insinuating that the majority of the citizens in the bay are home owners? They aren't.

And having a million dollars liquid is not required when purchasing a million dollar home.



100K you can live anywhere, especially with good credit.


Bro. most houses sell out here for
1.5 million in cash. if you come out here trying outbid these cash buyers you won't make it.

If you aren't home owner, apartments and houses rent out of 3-4k (per month) in San Jose, 4-7k in San Mateo and 5-10k in San Francisco. 10k a month isn't some
Huge luxury apartment either. We are talking 900sqft. And 5k is a ghetto area in San Fran. You think 100k is enough when it's 60k a year to live in a "bad" area of San Fran? Lol


100k is not a lot of money in the Bay Area period.
 

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Been on Codecademy for the past 4 days

:yeshrug:

Started with HTML (I knew some very basic shyt) and CSS

I'm gonna jump into the Java next.

:lolbron:

Not as hard as people make it seem but I pick up on things quick. But I can see how someone would look at it and go :whoa:

Not looking to make 100K right out the gate but I know there's some $$$$$ in it for me (and all of us)

:salute:
if you dont think its as hard as people make it seem. its because you have a gift. dont think its easy for everyone it aint. you have the aptitude for it. its not just about being smart. its how you THINK. if you naturally THINK Logically it can come easier to you vs those that dont naturally think in that manner all of the time.
 

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Nah... The Average track house in Bay Area is 1 million dollars*. Just regular 1 to 2k sqft house is 1 million dollars. If you think 100k is going to cut out here, you're crazy

Rent for a decent apartment in San Jose is closing in at 3k a month. It's 2k a month on average in the HOOD areas of San Jose.


I wanna see someone out here making 100k in the Bay Area living like a baller

Well, if that's the case, then save some of your money and not live like a baller. There you go.
 

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Well, if that's the case, then save some of your money and not live like a baller. There you go.


4 dollars for a loaf of bread. 4 dollars for a gallon of gas. 5-10 dollars for a gallon of milk. 3-4k monthly rent for normal apartment. Auto mobile is absolutely required unless you live in San Fran. Commuting is usually mandatory. That's already 4-5k a month in basic necessities.

The point is... you can't live comfortably on 100k in the Bay Area. If you're willing to live with roommates, then yeah sure.
 
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Ok cool, I figured the networking is the biggest advantage with these. Have you been on Codecademy? shyt's been blowing my mind with how much I've learned versus an in person/class instructor. I did a Javascript/PHP class a few years back and hardly did shyt lol...now this stuff is easier to grasp than before. Just need to practice more and learn more advanced concepts and I think I'll be straight.
I have, not as much as I need to. But I'll be all over it in a few weeks. I keep hearing that spending a year or so studying on your own is just as good, if not better than these bootcamps, if you've got the discipline.
4 dollars for a loaf of bread. 4 dollars for a gallon of gas. 5-10 dollars for a gallon of milk. 3-4k monthly rent for normal apartment. Auto mobile is absolutely required unless you live in San Fran. Commuting is usually mandatory. That's already 4-5k a month in basic necessities.

The point is... you can't live comfortably on 100k in the Bay Area. If you're willing to live with roommates, then yeah sure.


Even Oakland?:wtb: I'm trying to earn enough to move my family to a good, safe spot...but this sounds even worse than NYC.:dahell:

ETA: And 100k out the box??? Maybe I should have gone for the project management immersive instead...
 

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I have, not as much as I need to. But I'll be all over it in a few weeks. I keep hearing that spending a year or so studying on your own is just as good, if not better than these bootcamps, if you've got the discipline.

Yeah it really depends on the person. Some people are really good at studying on their own, while others not so much. I think bootcamps are the best way to go because it basically "forces" you to be disciplined, and you'll likely get assignments and real world problems to learn/solve. Plus you will have classmate right there that you can learn (copy) from and network with.
 

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I have, not as much as I need to. But I'll be all over it in a few weeks. I keep hearing that spending a year or so studying on your own is just as good, if not better than these bootcamps, if you've got the discipline.



Even Oakland?:wtb: I'm trying to earn enough to move my family to a good, safe spot...but this sounds even worse than NYC.:dahell:

ETA: And 100k out the box??? Maybe I should have gone for the project management immersive instead...

I can vouch for self-study.

After self-studying for 3 months (usually the summer), I was able to cover material faster and had a better working knowledge of the material as opposed to being in school. I generally read and cross-reference, and write about what I read to see if I know it. That and being alone studying a text-book are much better as there are fewer distractions.
There is the computer and everything else, but from what I did, if you write out what you are to do, then it is much easier to stick to the tasks of the day.
 

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Is this what yall are referring to with regards to Big Data analysis jobs....... using SAS......someone told me about this actually last year.

University Launches Online Master's Degree in Analytics to Fill Workforce Gap

University Launches Online Master's Degree in Analytics to Fill Workforce Gap
The for-profit Capella University has created one of the nation's first online master of science in analytics programs with help from SAS, a top software analytics company.
BY TANYA ROSCORLA / JULY 31, 2015

Data analysts are in high demand across the country, but universities are struggling to churn out enough graduates to meet the need.

Most university analytics programs require students to quit their job or move close to a campus location. But that's not feasible for many working adults.

That's why Capella University has created one of the nation's first online master of science in analytics programs with help from SAS, a top software analytics company. Starting in October, students will be able to enroll in the two-year program on a monthly basis and sign up for quarterly courses that don't require them to be online at the same time as everyone else — an important consideration for adults who juggle jobs and families.

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"We tried to build this for working adults, people who have an interest in analytics but probably would not be able to get into the other analytics programs because of those residency requirements or because of the requirement that they'd have to go to school full time," said Sue Talley, dean of technology at Capella University.

As with its other degree programs, Capella University plans to scale up the data analytics program and add faculty members on demand. While faculty won't require students to be online at the same time, they may make themselves available for question-and-answer sessions at a specific time and will encourage students to create study groups where they can meet virtually using whatever communication tools work for them. Most of the faculty members have on-the-job experience with data analytics.

One of the key components of training future data analysts is to not only help them hone the technical skills to analyze data, but also to be able to explain it to leaders in an understandable way. If they have these analytical and storytelling skills, they're what the industry currently calls unicorns.

Part of the problem with data analytics in corporate settings today is that not everyone is able to tell the story that the data reveals. And if data analysts don't meet the needs of the business they're serving, then it doesn't matter how many technical skills they have.

"Millions of dollars have been invested in the data analytics tools and software and creating the infrastructure to store data, and yet companies aren’t seeing the return on investment for what they've made," Talley said.

To remedy this problem, Capella University faculty will teach students both the storytelling and technical skills they need.

In conversations with top data analytics schools, including North Carolina State University, Talley heard over and over again that internships are a critical component of students' education because they teach them how to work with real data and collaborate with other people as they solve problems.

But because Capella is planning an analytics program that scales, it would be difficult to match every student with an internship. So the university decided to try virtual internships, where students work with the types of data sets that data analysts would use on a team with other students for VilaHealth, a hypothetical company.

By combining virtual internships with the ability to enroll new students each month, Capella University hopes to train more graduates so they can fill the workforce gaps in data analytics and help companies make good on their investment in analytics technology.
 

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Bro. most houses sell out here for
1.5 million in cash. if you come out here trying outbid these cash buyers you won't make it.

So? That's not relevant to the discussion. We're talking about cost of living. You don't need to buy a house to live comfortable and most people will never own a home in they lifetime.

If you aren't home owner, apartments and houses rent out of 3-4k (per month) in San Jose, 4-7k in San Mateo

Yeah, so 100k would be enough to live there.

and 5-10k in San Francisco. 10k a month isn't some
Huge luxury apartment either.

San Francisco is the richest city in America. A haven of well to doers and geeks. No surprise the prices are high to weed out the common folk. However, that's the exception and not the rule. You can still live in San Francisco with 100k regardless, which is the point.

And 5k is a ghetto area in San Fran.

LOL @ being able to afford to live in an area where rent is 5k a month and being ghetto. Yaw bay folk are hilarious. Yaw skitzo with that wannabe street shid.

You think 100k is enough when it's 60k a year to live in a "bad" area of San Fran? Lol

100K is almost double that, so...Yeah.


100k is not a lot of money in the Bay Area period.

You say that is isn't, then went on to explain that 100k is plenty of money to live there. Lol funny debate.
 

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So? That's not relevant to the discussion. We're talking about cost of living. You don't need to buy a house to live comfortable and most people will never own a home in they lifetime.



Yeah, so 100k would be enough to live there.



San Francisco is the richest city in America. A haven of well to doers and geeks. No surprise the prices are high to weed out the common folk. However, that's the exception and not the rule. You can still live in San Francisco with 100k regardless, which is the point.



LOL @ being able to afford to live in an area where rent is 5k a month and being ghetto. Yaw bay folk are hilarious. Yaw skitzo with that wannabe street shid.



100K is almost double that, so...Yeah.




You say that is isn't, then went on to explain that 100k is plenty of money to live there. Lol funny debate.


100k after taxes is 70k-76k depending on your tax strategy. After 60k in rent, what are you left with? 10k? Good luck with that. food, gas and everything cost way more here too.

San Jose - I just a search on Craigslist and the average 1 bedroom apartment was 3 grand in the South Bay (less than 800 sqft). 36k in rent with 100k income(70-80 after taxes). That's almost half your income vaporized by rent costs.

A brand new town house in Milpitas is renting out for 3300 to 5000.

let's be real here. 100k is enough for a young 22 year old dude who goes out a lot and doesn't care about saving.

But someone in their late 20s or early 30s with kids? Hell no. 100k ain't cutting it.
 

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100k after taxes is 70k-76k depending on your tax strategy. After 60k in rent, what are you left with? 10k? Good luck with that. food, gas and everything cost way more here too.

San Jose - I just a search on Craigslist and the average 1 bedroom apartment was 3 grand in the South Bay (less than 800 sqft). 36k in rent with 100k income(70-80 after taxes). That's almost half your income vaporized by rent costs.

A brand new town house in Milpitas is renting out for 3300 to 5000.

let's be real here. 100k is enough for a young 22 year old dude who goes out a lot and doesn't care about saving.

But someone in their late 20s or early 30s with kids? Hell no. 100k ain't cutting it.

yea Cali and NY juug alot of Recent grads from other cities, kids get an offer for 100-110k while all their friends are only getting offers for 35-40k, but then they get to Cali/NYC and see how much stuff cost and are like :damn:.
 
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