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He made the doctor shiver when she checked in the hospital

She woke up from the floor, looked in the mirror with her bloody ripped clothes and screamed.. Swore she would kill him. Threw on new clothes and went looking for him right there but he had left the house :manny:


girlllllllllll all this tea being dropped :whoo:
 

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You are correct about the aftermath of burning the house down. If she did not burn the house down there would be no "Waterfalls" because that is what she was inspired by. They were working on the song in the studio when she got a temporary break from the rehab facility, but it would not have been as big without her verse. Plus with her contributing other parts.

Biggest song on CrazySexyCool and would have sold alot but not as much without that.

Could have changed history alot


As for the spiritually confident part and what you said this is why i told you that Rihanna reminds me so much of her.

Take a look at these quotes and tell me they dont remind you of how i assume Left Eye talked to you when you met or what you remember her for.

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“I’ve never been totally comfortable in front of the camera. Even today, I find the camera terrifying. It embodies the millions of eyes that will look at you. I try not to take it to heart. As long as I’m in my element on stage, in front of my audience, I know that they’re emotionally connecting with me, that they love my music and aren’t judging me, feeling vulnerable behind the camera is ok.”
I agree with you but was the biggest song Waterfalls or Creep? I know Waterfalls sold more after that video but before then Creep was the only single.. So it should've sold more all together

Waterfalls the story was T-Boz idea, but Lisa's rap was the best part for most people.. Still they cut out that shyt for alot of radio. I aint never heard Waterfalls without Lisa's part but I heard people that had that and they hated it.. When a celeb goes through shyt it gets them more interest cuz people tryna get in their head and analyze them. And tryna see how they bounce back.. And Waterfalls hit alot of people cuz Lisa was speaking on stuff here that she aint never said before.. Far as I know, she was the realest female rapper period at that point.. None of that shyt was made up and it was all from the heart

Even more cause she would describe it like.. "It's just a thing I felt in this rough time in my life". She threw out all this personal shyt and treated it like another chapter.. I was thrown off cause I didn't know it then, but that was basically how she wrote everything meaningful to her.. The hard shyt like "trump tight nikka, make 7 figgas" just took longer

Also what's that one quote where the image isn't working?
 

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I agree with you but was the biggest song Waterfalls or Creep? I know Waterfalls sold more after that video but before then Creep was the only single.. So it should've sold more all together

Waterfalls the story was T-Boz idea, but Lisa's rap was the best part for most people.. Still they cut out that shyt for alot of radio. I aint never heard Waterfalls without Lisa's part but I heard people that had that and they hated it.. When a celeb goes through shyt it gets them more interest cuz people tryna get in their head and analyze them. And tryna see how they bounce back.. And Waterfalls hit alot of people cuz Lisa was speaking on stuff here that she aint never said before.. Far as I know, she was the realest female rapper period at that point.. None of that shyt was made up and it was all from the heart

Even more cause she would describe it like.. "It's just a thing I felt in this rough time in my life". She threw out all this personal shyt and treated it like another chapter.. I was thrown off cause I didn't know it then, but that was basically how she wrote everything meaningful to her.. The hard shyt like "trump tight nikka, make 7 figgas" just took longer

Also what's that one quote where the image isn't working?

Don't get me wrong Creep was HUGE too. I don't know if Billboard still does it(they probably do) but every year they have an end of year list that lists the highest selling/most popular songs on record. Now remember this was all before 1996 when Clinton signed that tellecommunication or whatever its called Act that forever changed music and TV and put the power in just a couple of tv stations and music labels

So remember this was like 1995 that was counted for TLC.

Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1995 - Wikipedia

1 "Gangsta's Paradise" Coolio featuring L.V.
2 "Waterfalls" TLC
3 "Creep" TLC
4 "Kiss from a Rose" Seal
5 "On Bended Knee" Boyz II Men


^^^This was 95...so we were both right. Just remember though that Creep was more urban but don't forget this was the peak of the 90s so even urban/black at the time was huge. We had huge representation on TV, movies and in our music so its not like now where people say urban and its just us that hear it.



The Rihanna quote that came up empty was what she said about Whitney Houston in Vogue Magazine last year. This is what she said.



"Greatest Love of All means Whitney Houston to me! The innocence on her face in the music video moves me. It’s a love song, but not of a classic love story or heartache. It’s tackles self-love. We don’t know where the pain starts, where it finishes, and fame can help to heal our deep-seated wounds and weaknesses. But there is a moment of grace in life where hope finds its niche, where trust lies. This is what I read on Whitney’s face when I watch this video. I would’ve loved for her to keep that forever."


^^^Doesn't that sound like something Left Eye would say breh? Lol.


Also same issue she said this about Lil Kim:


“Powerful, creative, without any taboos, Lil Kim has pushed the limits like no other black artist. Her world is coloful, fun, pop, rich and coded. She has fun. I am happy to see a phenomenon like in my life.”


:sas2: see what i'm saying?
 

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Is there an album coming out or something :what: you seem extremely fanatic about a chick who has been dead for damn near 20 years and hasn’t had any music for just as long. She did not impact the game in the Salem way Pac or BIG did so what’s the deal?
 

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For her career who knows, that was probably one of the best moves she'd made up to that point :yeshrug:


You mean that wasn't released online? Nothing. I want to rag on 3D, but it was created without Lisa's production and T-Boz and Chilli carried her concept wrong.. They didn't have a chance to do it right on her end though because she just didn't leave them enough to work with.. She was also doing N.I.N.A. at the time.. To me that would've been better than 3D either way, but the type of rapping was closer to the TLC style than for Supernova


She was too genuine for me.. Too spiritually confident.. It wasn't hard to tell. At that point I was basically intimidated.. That wasn't how women was supposed to be, made me feel weird even thinking about intimate shyt and I didn't approach the other two cause I aint see them.. But I didn't want to see them after that. Damn time flies


Nah just met her once, some club in the DMV :whoa: I asked everything I could cause I felt comfortable as a friend around her, but running game? Couldn't do it.. Didn't even feel like asking the material shyt, I went into deeper topics and most of its buried in my memory now.. First time I ended up talking more about myself than listening to a girl and didn't feel I was getting ignored :pachaha:


I never heard of this. Why people give Chilli so much shyt? I know she had her problems but damn :mjlol:


I could try and fashion you some answers breh, but that ain't gonna be but from my limited psychology of her and understanding of the roads she was traveling

If you want the sure answer, you gotta ask her yourself in 10000 years.. If either of you remember or care at that point :manny:
Wasn’t the concept supposed to explore the “three dimensional” ways of TLC. Like, they were more than just crazy party girls. That’s what Tboz said in 02
 

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Don't get me wrong Creep was HUGE too. I don't know if Billboard still does it(they probably do) but every year they have an end of year list that lists the highest selling/most popular songs on record. Now remember this was all before 1996 when Clinton signed that tellecommunication or whatever its called Act that forever changed music and TV and put the power in just a couple of tv stations and music labels

So remember this was like 1995 that was counted for TLC.

Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1995 - Wikipedia

1 "Gangsta's Paradise" Coolio featuring L.V.
2 "Waterfalls" TLC
3 "Creep" TLC
4 "Kiss from a Rose" Seal
5 "On Bended Knee" Boyz II Men


^^^This was 95...so we were both right. Just remember though that Creep was more urban but don't forget this was the peak of the 90s so even urban/black at the time was huge. We had huge representation on TV, movies and in our music so its not like now where people say urban and its just us that hear it.



The Rihanna quote that came up empty was what she said about Whitney Houston in Vogue Magazine last year. This is what she said.



"Greatest Love of All means Whitney Houston to me! The innocence on her face in the music video moves me. It’s a love song, but not of a classic love story or heartache. It’s tackles self-love. We don’t know where the pain starts, where it finishes, and fame can help to heal our deep-seated wounds and weaknesses. But there is a moment of grace in life where hope finds its niche, where trust lies. This is what I read on Whitney’s face when I watch this video. I would’ve loved for her to keep that forever."


^^^Doesn't that sound like something Left Eye would say breh? Lol.


Also same issue she said this about Lil Kim:


“Powerful, creative, without any taboos, Lil Kim has pushed the limits like no other black artist. Her world is coloful, fun, pop, rich and coded. She has fun. I am happy to see a phenomenon like in my life.”


:sas2: see what i'm saying?
Waterfalls sold more than Creep in 95 no doubt.. But Creep sold more in 94 as the only single and from what you showed, it sold well into 95 too, so Creep should have more sales if you add up all the years.. Prob not by much tho.

That Rihanna quote looks too clean.. When Lisa was being quoted they would put up every stutter and pause and wrong word... Matter fact I think they quoted her asking not to quote her a couple times :heh:

So yeah that sounds a bit like her if you edit out all her mistakes and pretty up everything she'd say. Lisa had love for Whitney though and Lil Kim but she wasn't camera shy, where you get that from?

I might be missing somethin tho cause of that face at the end
 

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Waterfalls sold more than Creep in 95 no doubt.. But Creep sold more in 94 as the only single and from what you showed, it sold well into 95 too, so Creep should have more sales if you add up all the years.. Prob not by much tho.

That Rihanna quote looks too clean.. When Lisa was being quoted they would put up every stutter and pause and wrong word... Matter fact I think they quoted her asking not to quote her a couple times :heh:

So yeah that sounds a bit like her if you edit out all her mistakes and pretty up everything she'd say. Lisa had love for Whitney though and Lil Kim but she wasn't camera shy, where you get that from?

I might be missing somethin tho cause of that face at the end

Nah man Left Eye talked like that too check this interview out:







this is what i was telling you before....wild image but then they give the best cleanest interviews.
 

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Is there an album coming out or something :what: you seem extremely fanatic about a chick who has been dead for damn near 20 years and hasn’t had any music for just as long. She did not impact the game in the Salem way Pac or BIG did so what’s the deal?
Nah she changed the game.. This aint something I would argue. I would start with her slowly killing the under the table 360 deal trend artists had to take. :manny:

The way you talkin bout "impact" it's more like how many fans were jockin her after her death or how many rappers was tryna be her or use her style.. If that's what you mean, the only direct influence she had on a rapper jockin her far as I know is Cardi B.. Which is understandable. Simply put, Lisa and her style is too hard to copy without making it obvious that you're tryna be like her.. Again Cardi B.. And that shyt aint important anyhow, what matters is how many artists liked the music and know the name. Not "who wants to look like/make music like Lisa" when they sign on..

Third, her entire lane pretty much died the moment she died.. I'm talkin her type of rapping, but also girl groups in general.. Yonce's shyt broke up soon after and there was one other group that had some success, but it ended fast.. No girl group genre to be inspired by her in the 2010s


Fourth, because I want to spread another respectable artist on this dry ass Coli.. You already said you basically only listen to Cardi B and Nicki

I will dap/rep u till next week if someone can decipher this
So I doubt you even knew who Left Eye was before I made that thread, could be wrong but.. :yeshrug:
 

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I been thinking @Jinx` Was a female for the longest :martin:
You know nikkas like Left Eye, any decent brotha respects her :pachaha:

Wasn’t the concept supposed to explore the “three dimensional” ways of TLC. Like, they were more than just crazy party girls. That’s what Tboz said in 02
That's hard to sum up if ima be honest.. It was basically Lisa's intention for each of them to personally be open with themselves and let the fans see every part of them as who they really were.. Not just for the TLC gimmick but as far as them being real life complicated people.. "Left Eye" in particular was one of Lisa's nicknames, but in TLC it was a character Lisa created.. And outside of TLC she treated it like a character :manny:

After FanMail it was only natural she'd be sick of that same old manufactured message they were putting out on most of their songs.. As far as content, their most progressive album was actually the first one

Nah man Left Eye talked like that too check this interview out:







this is what i was telling you before....wild image but then they give the best cleanest interviews.

Wendy always tryna start some shyt.. That whole interview was a buncha shade and failed trapped questions, tried to get her riled up over TBoz and she smack ignored it :mjlol:

Beyonce swore woulda walked out that shyt :mjlol:


I'm a little confused on what you mean about the smiley, but what I meant with clean is that she said everything literally flawless like some kinda robot. Real people aint fluid like that, maybe at parts but usually not.. Lisa thought alot before she said what she had to say.. You got timestamps for that one Rihanna Vogue quote? I wanna see her say that shyt in realtime
 

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You know nikkas like Left Eye, any decent brotha respects her :pachaha:


That's hard to sum up if ima be honest.. It was basically Lisa's intention for each of them to personally be open with themselves and let the fans see every part of them as who they really were.. Not just for the TLC gimmick but as far as them being real life complicated people.. "Left Eye" in particular was one of Lisa's nicknames, but in TLC it was a character Lisa created.. And outside of TLC she treated it like a character :manny:

After FanMail it was only natural she'd be sick of that same old manufactured message they were putting out on most of their songs.. As far as content, their most progressive album was actually the first one


Wendy always tryna start some shyt.. That whole interview was a buncha shade and failed trapped questions, tried to get her riled up over TBoz and she smack ignored it :mjlol:

Beyonce swore woulda walked out that shyt :mjlol:


I'm a little confused on what you mean about the smiley, but what I meant with clean is that she said everything literally flawless like some kinda robot. Real people aint fluid like that, maybe at parts but usually not.. Lisa thought alot before she said what she had to say.. You got timestamps for that one Rihanna Vogue quote? I wanna see her say that shyt in realtime
Can you expound on that a little further
I’ve always found the concept of 3D interesting, though all the way not fleshed out. Do you know of this track “watch the world” which was supposed to be the first single and a huge anthem w/ Lisa doing all the verses
 

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You know nikkas like Left Eye, any decent brotha respects her :pachaha:


That's hard to sum up if ima be honest.. It was basically Lisa's intention for each of them to personally be open with themselves and let the fans see every part of them as who they really were.. Not just for the TLC gimmick but as far as them being real life complicated people.. "Left Eye" in particular was one of Lisa's nicknames, but in TLC it was a character Lisa created.. And outside of TLC she treated it like a character :manny:

After FanMail it was only natural she'd be sick of that same old manufactured message they were putting out on most of their songs.. As far as content, their most progressive album was actually the first one


Wendy always tryna start some shyt.. That whole interview was a buncha shade and failed trapped questions, tried to get her riled up over TBoz and she smack ignored it :mjlol:

Beyonce swore woulda walked out that shyt :mjlol:


I'm a little confused on what you mean about the smiley, but what I meant with clean is that she said everything literally flawless like some kinda robot. Real people aint fluid like that, maybe at parts but usually not.. Lisa thought alot before she said what she had to say.. You got timestamps for that one Rihanna Vogue quote? I wanna see her say that shyt in realtime

Speaking of Wendy's stupid ass, Tariq Nasheed back in the day on an old podcast like over a decade ago gave a story he heard of how Wendy gave Beyonce an attitude when she(Beyonce) tried to kiss Wendy on the cheek to be cordial. I can't remember if Tina was there when it happened or she found out about it later on but apparently Tina checked her. Ill post the video where Tariq mentions it when i have time


nah i don't think the Rihanna Vogue interview was taped. Or maybe its one of those things where we see videotaped footage later on in the artist career.
 

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Is there an album coming out or something :what: you seem extremely fanatic about a chick who has been dead for damn near 20 years and hasn’t had any music for just as long. She did not impact the game in the Salem way Pac or BIG did so what’s the deal?

Alot of people didnt.....but dozens of other rappers other than Pac or Big have died and have had people show respect or love, why is it an issue to yall when people talk about female artists?

Also Cardi B and Nicki Minaj clearly both have a very strong Left Eye influence and those are the biggest female rappers since her death 16 years ago...so i would say there is some impact there. those two are like when Majin Buu(Left Eye) split into Good Buu and Evil Buu
 

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Alot of people didnt.....but dozens of other rappers other than Pac or Big have died and have had people show respect or love, why is it an issue to yall when people talk about female artists?

Also Cardi B and Nicki Minaj clearly both have a very strong Left Eye influence and those are the biggest female rappers since her death 16 years ago...so i would say there is some impact there. those two are like when Majin Buu(Left Eye) split into Good Buu and Evil Buu
If he's referring to her solo that's a non-point

Unless you wanted to pay $30-40 for a rare and sketchy import in a time when internet sales was still young.. You wasn't getting Supernova otherwise.. No idea how it went gold and I quite frankly don't believe it cause it wasn't RIAA tracked.

But to say the front woman and creative force of the biggest selling girl group behind the Spice Girls left no impact is some bullshyt, dude aint but from Australia though so I'll give him a pass.. :manny:

And yea b.. Lemme see that Tariq interview when you got it, I think you get what I mean about the Rihanna one tho.. They are both good speakers (my favorite kind of women) but the text was definitely cleaned up

How did her Philly upbringing shape her?
She lived in basically a one room house in Philly but they were often moving cuz her father was in the military.. When they were in Philly though he was usually there, and they had a bitter-sweet relationship..

-Her father introduced her to liquor when she was young
-Her father was physically/emotionally abusive and so was her grandmother and her mother
-When her grades started dropping because of the abuse, he locked her in her room most days except to take her drinking
-She ran away from home several times.. Sometimes for weeks at a time, and she did whatever on the streets to survive
-She learned to hustle in competitions or by showcasing her musical talents to people

If she aint run from home she was kicked out by her parents.. Her mother had kicked her out the house when she decided to go to Atlanta, I think she was staying with an aunt. All that was the basis of her major headlines when she got to TLC.. She got pregnant by an abusive boyfriend right before then and that plus Chilli's situation with the abortion influenced the whole "safe sex" image of the 1st album.. Like most things, it was her idea

The alcohol shyt she had tried to curb with ganja and it was working by 93, but Andre abusing her and them getting ripped off drove her back to drinking :francis:
 
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