Mase was 3x platinum by summer 98. Once Jay dropped Vol 2 and went 4x platinum quicker, he surpassed him.
At one Point DMX was considered better than Hov
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Ghetto D was 2x platinum.
The Double album did 4x platinum, so two million sales.
Jay was bigger.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
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he sold more than 2x platinum, and sales only tell half the story. I'm sure you know this.
also, youre forgetting that master p had the entire 30 million label on his back.
all while being with priority, where jay only went gold.
Look at these revisionist clown nggas tryin to establish a new narrative...
DMX was generally seen as the best rapper in 98-99.
if you think that comment is revisionist, then youre just exposing yourself
ehh. I remember volume 1 being platinum before I graduated.
it was kind of a thing, cuz reasonable doubt was way hotter on the streets, but then he got with def jam, and doubled those sales immediately with a disappointing album.
You’re revisiting, I need you to slow down and mentally go back to these moments. Jay’s third album is Volume 2 HNKL.
Ma$e was running things. So I’m going to ask again, would you make Ma$e 1A or 1B?
Jay was channeling Mase and Bad Boy’s shines suit movement on volume 1.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with the thread title
I never liked Mase like that. Harlem World wasn't that good.You’re revisiting, I need you to slow down and mentally go back to these moments. Jay’s third album is Volume 2 HNKL.
Ma$e was running things. So I’m going to ask again, would you make Ma$e 1A or 1B?
Jay was channeling Mase and Bad Boy’s shines suit movement on volume 1.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with the thread title
Mase was polarizing as well, getting outside of my own head about it.
Mase wasn't in contention like that.
I never liked Mase like that. Harlem World wasn't that good.
Mase was polarizing as well, getting outside of my own head about it.
Mase wasn't in contention like that.
Breh I didn’t ask you whether you liked him or not. If you’re being unbiased, Mase is better than Jay in that moment.
He’s either 1A or 1B...
Master P was not bigger than X or Jay in '98. Mase wad arguably bigger in '98. Mase had released "Lookin' At Me", ehich played throughout the summer. He was featured on Cam's "Horse & Carriage". He wad also featured on JD's album.
"But Mase was out here in a Rugrats video". So Master P ain't do "Kenny's Dead" for the South Park soundtrack.
"But Mase was out here in a Rugrats video". So Master P ain't do "Kenny's Dead" for the South Park soundtrack.
Not even in the running for me.
RD and Vol. 1 >>>>> Harlem World
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
for starters, jay didn't even blow like that until the last few months of '98.
how is master p not bigger than DMX in 1998?? what is the reasoning, aside from people trying to force P out the history books?? @bigbadbossup2012
compare the rugrats to south park brehs.
that's r&b.
A lot thought the music he was putting out was better than what Jay was putting out
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I feel ya i just think the tour kinda put jay in the spotlight more than prolly deserved. Every song on vol 2 did become big but in my head off remembering they became big kinda AFTER/during the time of the tour. Not before.
X was already a star by time can i get a dropped. Money aint a thing was out but that was a jd song really. Jay z JUST started catching that real steam at the end of 98 with hard kbock life and money cash hoes which to me is really a dmx song ft jay. I remember people bumping flesh of my flesh just as much as HKL if not more.
Idk i just saw jay strategically put himself the headliner when he was JUST getting to Xs level of stardom. Vol 2 went 5x cause of that one song but x was doing 5x with no real super smashes just ya avg hip hop shyt.
Jayz: vol 1: 1x plat. Vol 2: 5x plat, vol 3 3x plat , dynasty 2x plat
Dmx: idahih:3x, fomfbomb: 4x plat, attwx: 5x plat
Idk. To me dmx was a MUCH bigger star than jay until jay drolled blueprint and it became aboyt him and nas.
Jay is very smart. He knows how perception is reality. I just think x had jays number until great depression which sold 440k in its first week but only went platinum while blueprint sold a lil less and went double. Jay had the staying powet and wisely moved his attention to nas which was a whole nother thing.
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No clown....your exposing yourself...
In 98'...Hov was still seen as the better rapper embraced by the streets and commercially coming of age. The difference was the get money nggas and wittier fans gravitated more towards Jay...whereas the grittier nggas gravitated more toward X. Either u was fukkin wit the ROC heavy at that time (Jay...Bleek...and Beans)...flashier nggas or you were fukkin wit RR (X, Eve, Lox, Drag)....the grittier crew. X's tidal wave was crazy because he was filling the void of an energetic street ngga (a la Pac type ngga)...and he was embracing movies....and everything else. At no point was anyone fukin wit Hov as far as wordplay or anytime he blessed a track They were just two sides of a coin. Of course you wouldn't know all this because...it was before you were cool square....
No sir, you’re wilding
Those two albums, especially Vol 1. didn’t get their just due until years later. I have no issues with volume one, when it dropped in 97 it had little to no impact. Mase was better than Hov in 98.
Now in 99, it wasn’t even arguable that Hov had surpassed him.