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Wow....so much PERVASIVE ignorance in here on this topic.

I'mma pray for y'all. Seriously.
 

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Are there two God's.

Is Satan a God.

If Satan didn't create himself he's not a God but a creation. Everything about him is from God.
 

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So many are hell bound if they don't change. Christians included.

Breh, stop.. like for real gawd. You mean to tell me, A loving , omniscient god, that panders to human emotions like fear, BUT STILL dabbles in endless torture. Man... I swear all these libraries, encyclopedias, internet research sites, forums aint helpin us.... You mean to tell me that a place noone has ever been to and documented is WORSE than the reality some people are LIVING CURRENTLY EVERYDAY?!
 

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Are there two God's.

Is Satan a God.

If Satan didn't create himself he's not a God but a creation. Everything about him is from God.

The bible shows there is only one God who holds three separate offices. Satan tricked adam out of ownership of Earth. That made him God of the earth but was reduced to prince of earth through the sacrifice of Yeshua on the cross.

Job 2:2:7 shows satan has to get the okay from Yahweh to do anything he does. So he is not in charge ad much as people give him credit for
 

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The bible shows there is only one God who holds three separate offices. Satan tricked adam out of ownership of Earth. That made him God of the earth but was reduced to prince of earth through the sacrifice of Yeshua on the cross.

Job 2:2:7 shows satan has to get the okay from Yahweh to do anything he does. So he is not in charge ad much as people give him credit for

So God and Shaitan are the same?
 

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So God and Shaitan are the same?

Not at all. Yahweh is the creator and God of all beings. Satan (abaddon)is a cheribum,a winged angel who covered Yahweh in the mercy seat along with Yeshua. Cheribum are the highest ranking beings besides Michael the archangel. Adam was created to be God of the earth but his birthright was stolen when satan tricked him and eve.

So satan was God of the earth at one point but the crucifixion of Yeshua checkmated that and reduced him to prince of the earth. The earth and the ways of it are in his reflection but he still has to get the okay from Yahweh as shown in the book of Job. So even if Adam was never tricked he would've still received orders some orders from the most high.
 

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Not at all. Yahweh is the creator and God of all beings. Satan (abaddon)is a cheribum,a winged angel who covered Yahweh in the mercy seat along with Yeshua. Cheribum are the highest ranking beings besides Michael the archangel. Adam was created to be God of the earth but his birthright was stolen when satan tricked him and eve.

So satan was God of the earth at one point but the crucifixion of Yeshua checkmated that and reduced him to prince of the earth. The earth and the ways of it are in his reflection but he still has to get the okay from Yahweh as shown in the book of Job. So even if Adam was never tricked he would've still received orders some orders from the most high.

Using the most basic of sense...how could a cheribum think it could box with God?

Where did the rebellion and evil spirit Shaitan have come from...if all things come from God?

See that's the part you CAN'T get around. In the beginning there was nothing. Not in the beginning there was God...and evil was just chillin on the other side of the room.

God created everything.

It's like me having some land I own. Everything on that land is mine. If the police find dope in my house I can't say that's not mine. "Everything here mine...but that right there isn't." Naw nikka, that's yours too!

If you participate long enough I'll break it down for you so you can have a correct answer in the world of Christianity next time someone ask.
 

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Using the most basic of sense...how could a cheribum think it could box with God?

Where did the rebellion and evil spirit Shaitan have come from...if all things come from God?

See that's the part you CAN'T get around. In the beginning there was nothing. Not in the beginning there was God...and evil was just chillin on the other side of the room.

God created everything.

It's like me having some land I own. Everything on that land is mine. If the police find dope in my house I can't say that's not mine. "Everything here mine...but that right there isn't." Naw nikka, that's yours too!

If you participate long enough I'll break it down for you so you can have a correct answer in the world of Christianity next time someone ask.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." -isaiah 45:7


"God" created evil, its a part of free will
Good would be the status quo if there was no evil
It might be beyond your "reasoning" or perspective but "God" created evil out of love

You wouldnt be able to comprehend love without evil :manny:
 

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Using the most basic of sense...how could a cheribum think it could box with God?

Where did the rebellion and evil spirit Shaitan have come from...if all things come from God?

See that's the part you CAN'T get around. In the beginning there was nothing. Not in the beginning there was God...and evil was just chillin on the other side of the room.

God created everything.

It's like me having some land I own. Everything on that land is mine. If the police find dope in my house I can't say that's not mine. "Everything here mine...but that right there isn't." Naw nikka, that's yours too!

If you participate long enough I'll break it down for you so you can have a correct answer in the world of Christianity next time someone ask.

God is not the creator of evil, satan is john 8:44. There never was sin or evil in the heavens until the beauty, pride, power, and wisdom took over the heart of the devil isiah 14:14. If there was sin and evil in heaven then angels would've been hip to it and not rebelled. They never heard a lie, witnessed a murder until the devil brought it to them because he is the father of it.

Sin cannot be in the presence of Yahweh hence moses' discussion with Yahweh as the burning bush, the levites and the tabernacle and the mountain of transfiguration moses, Yeshua, and elijah. Yeshua is the bridge and loophole for Yahweh to be in the presence of sinful man.

Christianity isn't mentioned in the bible so I don't follow or recognize that movement
 

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"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." -isaiah 45:7


"God" created evil, its a part of free will
Good would be the status quo if there was no evil
It might be beyond your "reasoning" or perspective but "God" created evil out of love

You wouldnt be able to comprehend love without evil :manny:

Not in the beginning although God has used evil on multiple occasions as discipline such as the death (satan) pharoah and first borns of egypt, the hardening of the heart of the pharoah and the "tree" of good and evil.

That is simply God admitting he created satan who is the creator of evil. God didn't lie to the angelic order in heaven bout nothing. God didn't introduce rebellion, lies, perversion of the word, murder, sin etc. That is all from the devil
 

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God is not the creator of evil, satan is john 8:44. There never was sin or evil in the heavens until the beauty, pride, power, and wisdom took over the heart of the devil isiah 14:14. If there was sin and evil in heaven then angels would've been hip to it and not rebelled. They never heard a lie, witnessed a murder until the devil brought it to them because he is the father of it.

Sin cannot be in the presence of Yahweh hence moses' discussion with Yahweh as the burning bush, the levites and the tabernacle and the mountain of transfiguration moses, Yeshua, and elijah. Yeshua is the bridge and loophole for Yahweh to be in the presence of sinful man.

Christianity isn't mentioned in the bible so I don't follow or recognize that movement

So Satan is a god after all? There is a basis to worship Satan for devil worshippers? Satan is an actual creator...amazing.
 

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So Satan is a god after all? There is a basis to worship Satan for devil worshippers? Satan is an actual creator...amazing.

Everything satan does has to be okayed by God. At one point in time people worshipped a golden calf, a false god like satan
So Satan is a god after all? There is a basis to worship Satan for devil worshippers? Satan is an actual creator...amazing.

Let me clarify myself. Satan, creator of sin, yes. Satan worshippers fall for the old tricks of power, knowledge, and immortality when he cannot grant that at all
 
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