Austin Rivers claps back at the no name NFL bruh

[IIVI]

Also, let's not forget there was a football player who chose basketball: Jalen Suggs.

But, in the end, he chose the hardwood over the gridiron, but not without some second guessing. There was a night this fall, during his senior football season, when Suggs was talking to his father, Larry, and told him he kind of wanted to continue his football career.

“And he said, ‘I love you, but this is just something you’ve got to do,’” Suggs recalled his father saying. “‘It’s time. You’re great, you’ve made a lot of memories and done a lot of great things on the football field, but for you to be successful, the best move for you going forward is the basketball route.’”

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Jalen Suggs is related to Terrell Suggs.

shyt, 2021 draft had more players who played organized football and switched because it was too intense for them: Cade Cunningham and Jalen Green.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Nah, when you resort to money over an argument, you lost the argument. They're all millionaires, but James Jones can also say he's a champion if you want to make it about something rather than the argument itself.

At the end of the day, Rivers had a weak argument. There are not 30 NBA players who can play in the NFL.

How brutally strong and athletic NFL athletes are compared to the NBA is really understated. Shaq being maybe the strongest player the league has ever seen really shows enough, nearly every average offensive and defensive linemen in the league can lift more than Shaq.

Shaq said the most he's eve bench pressed was 450 lbs., but there's no video proof of that.
Meanwhile multiple NFL athletes can put up 600 lbs. on the bench press, while some have done 700 lbs. with verified proof.

A lot of NFL players are also elite wrestlers. Many were state champions.
Multiple NFL players played in or got drafted into the MLB.
Many were all state soccer players.
Mentally, you got M.I.T Math professors, Engineers, etc. who've stepped foot on an NFL field.
These guys are athletes among athletes and among the peak humans on this planet.

You can "play" basketball going at full speed, but you can't really "play" NFL going at full speed. The contact is almost like "playing" boxing or MMA, you can't really do that. One hit can end it all and change your life.

NFL players at any point can jump on a basketball court with pros hold their own with NBA players going at full speed and full contact. They'll do so over the off-season at any time.

Can you say the same about an NBA player in a real full-contact NFL game?

I think NFL players would hold their own much closer than NBA players jumping on an NFL field at full speed, real hits and all. NBA players however would never jump on a football field going full contact imo, meanwhile NFL players always jump on basketball courts.

Shaq struggling with 405 (even had a tough time with 315), now this is past his playing days, but nonetheless remember some NFL linemen push 600-700lbs.

Charles was using fake weights.

People used to freak out when Shaq threw a punch. Imagine Penei Sewell throwing a punch at you.

There's a big difference.

Great points.

NFL players almost always have backgrounds as multi-sport athletes (track/field, wrestling, powerlifting, soccer, baseball, basketball, lacrosse, rugby etc). They are more well-rounded athletes with skills that can translate to other sports.

Basketball players are more like hockey players where they're athletic and skilled but they're not freaky enough to just go squat 600 lbs or run a 20-ish second 200m.

People gotta remember that height limits the pool of athletes. Steph Curry is 6'3" and considered "small" for an NBA player. Dude is like 97th percentile for height. NBA players are great athletes for tall nikkas but not really great overall.

Biggest challenge for an NFL player (IMO) is shooting. Can you create enough space to get your shot off and actually make jumpers. If you can shoot, that's half the battle. Other challenge is defense/footwork. Gotta hone skills with practice.

Flip side....98% of NBA players simply CANNOT play in the NFL because they lack and would never be able to develop the physical tools needed for football.

QB? Hahahaha. Receiver? Route running would be trash as they couldn't get out of cuts and would get jammed easily by physical corners. TE? Maybe but blocking would be problematic. Anything OL/DL/LB is a no go. Too slow for corner and would get torched as a safety.

 

[IIVI]

Great points.

NFL players almost always have backgrounds as multi-sport athletes (track/field, wrestling, powerlifting, soccer, baseball, basketball, lacrosse, rugby etc). They are more well-rounded athletes with skills that can translate to other sports.

Basketball players are more like hockey players where they're athletic and skilled but they're not freaky enough to just go squat 600 lbs or run a 20-ish second 200m.

People gotta remember that height limits the pool of athletes. Steph Curry is 6'3" and considered "small" for an NBA player. Dude is like 97th percentile for height. NBA players are great athletes for tall nikkas but not really great overall.

Biggest challenge for an NFL player (IMO) is shooting. Can you create enough space to get your shot off and actually make jumpers. If you can shoot, that's half the battle. Other challenge is defense/footwork. Gotta hone skills with practice.

Flip side....98% of NBA players simply CANNOT play in the NFL because they lack and would never be able to develop the physical tools needed for football.

QB? Hahahaha. Receiver? Route running would be trash as they couldn't get out of cuts and would get jammed easily by physical corners. TE? Maybe but blocking would be problematic. Anything OL/DL/LB is a no go. Too slow for corner and would get torched as a safety.

Yup. It's funny because in football many times the low man wins

That's why Defensive Ends like Von Miller who dominate do so because they have an incredible skills to get parallel to the ground.

It's physics: shorter means faster turns. Too tall, especially with modern athletes is asking to get injured on that field.

These cats really don't got the elite strength to play and anchor.

Like, look at how many state champions:

NFL Players That Wrestled

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An NBA player is going to step on a field and do hand combat on the OL/DL with somebody who got a very intimate understanding of leverage and technique?

 

[Inertia Creeps]

How unsurprising that a scrub who only lasted as long as he did in the NBA solely due to his last name is totally, snobbishly ignorant of the talent and skills it requires to make another top professional league through your own merits, let alone win a championship in one. Dude is just as clueless and useless as his daddy. Resorting to bragging about your inflated contract earnings after realizing you already lost your worthless argument... when statistically most players like him eventually end up broke post retirement regardless of the "unlimited $$" they earned while playing is also a bozo look.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm certain NBA players can play in the NFL. The problem is that too much height is a liability in the NFL. Too much of a player opens them up to injury.

 

[Panther]

Making the NBA is not the hardest league to make because of athleticism, its harder because it's a league where height is heavily relied on. Theres not many 6'6 and above people walking on the planet.

This proves Rivers point too

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

Draymond is one of their scrappier ones and this is against college cats. They need to stop pretending like Antonio Gates was the rule. He was the anomaly and that experiment hasn't been replicated since then. You don't see wrestlers saying they could all play football because Stephen Neal did it.

A lot of pro wrestlers are just football players who couldn't make the NFL

 

[broller]

On avg, it is harder to make the NBA than it is to make the NFL. The NBA is much more exclusive and you probably don't have many NBA players who would want to be in the NFL instead of being in the NBA. However, you probably have a lot of NFL players who would rather be in the NBA. Davante Adams said he prefers basketball, Tony Romo preferred basketball but his Dad told him he had a better shot turning pro in football than basketball etc.

 

[threattonature]

Nah, when you resort to money over an argument, you lost the argument. They're all millionaires, but James Jones can also say he's a champion if you want to make it about something rather than the argument itself.

At the end of the day, Rivers had a weak argument. There are not 30 NBA players who can play in the NFL.

How brutally strong and athletic NFL athletes are compared to the NBA is really understated. Shaq being maybe the strongest player the league has ever seen really shows enough, nearly every average offensive and defensive linemen in the league can lift more than Shaq.

Shaq said the most he's eve bench pressed was 450 lbs., but there's no video proof of that.
Meanwhile multiple NFL athletes can put up 600 lbs. on the bench press, while some have done 700 lbs. with verified proof.

A lot of NFL players are also elite wrestlers. Many were state champions.
Multiple NFL players played in or got drafted into the MLB.
Many were all state soccer players.
Mentally, you got M.I.T Math professors, Engineers, etc. who've stepped foot on an NFL field.
WWE, acting, music, military, etc.
These guys are athletes among athletes and among the peak humans on this planet.

You can "play" basketball going at full speed, but you can't really "play" NFL going at full speed. The contact is almost like "playing" boxing or MMA, you can't really do that. One hit can end it all and change your life.

NFL players at any point can jump on a basketball court with pros hold their own with NBA players going at full speed and full contact. They'll do so over the off-season at any time.

Can you say the same about an NBA player in a real full-contact NFL game?

I think NFL players would hold their own much closer than NBA players jumping on an NFL field at full speed, real hits and all. NBA players however would never jump on a football field going full contact imo, meanwhile NFL players always jump on basketball courts.

Shaq struggling with 405 (even had a tough time with 315), now this is past his playing days, but nonetheless remember some NFL linemen push 600-700lbs.

Charles was using fake weights.

People used to freak out when Shaq threw a punch. Imagine Penei Sewell throwing a punch at you.

There's a big difference.

This is such a horrible point. The football players play in short bursts so they can focus much more on building strength. Basketball players require much more cardio so they can't focus all their energy on strength. NBA players also have to focus more on body control, agility, and balance.

Also a lot of NBA players have a football past but once you get to a certain height it just makes sense to focus on basketball as the money has always been better and it's easier to stand out if you are a top player.

What NFL players have jumped on a court and held their own going full speed against NBA players? Freak NFL athletes like Randy Moss and TO just looked like an above average athlete when on the court with NBA players if that much.

For millions of dollars NBA players would definitely jump on an NFL field if it was an option. Y'all underestimate the toughness of NBA players. The physical toll playing 82 games a year takes on the body is a lot. There's a reason NBA players are also in ice baths and have all these measures to try and recover the body.

 

[Randoug]

when you have to bring money into your argument you kinda taking a L

So we agree Drake took an L

 

[IIVI]

This is such a horrible point. The football players play in short bursts so they can focus much more on building strength. Basketball players require much more cardio so they can't focus all their energy on strength. NBA players also have to focus more on body control, agility, and balance.

Also a lot of NBA players have a football past but once you get to a certain height it just makes sense to focus on basketball as the money has always been better and it's easier to stand out if you are a top player.

What NFL players have jumped on a court and held their own going full speed against NBA players? Freak NFL athletes like Randy Moss and TO just looked like an above average athlete when on the court with NBA players if that much.

For millions of dollars NBA players would definitely jump on an NFL field if it was an option. Y'all underestimate the toughness of NBA players. The physical toll playing 82 games a year takes on the body is a lot. There's a reason NBA players are also in ice baths and have all these measures to try and recover the body.

I mean, that's kind of my point. They're two completely different requirements. The difference in strength is massive and that accounts for a whole lot. Strength is such a factor in the NFL which is why Emmanuel Forbes is getting picked on basically every game, dude is way too weak. When that dude matches up with AJ Brown it was straight comedy.

The difference between playing 3 years of football in the NCAA, along with the weight training programs is so much different compared to the modern NBA player's trajectory. I just don't think it's unfair to say they're not ready for the physicality.

The strength needed to not get flung to the ground to avoid injury or bring enough resistance when a dog pile forms on top of your back also plays a factor to be able to run it back a week later that a simple ice bath won't do anything for. The game can get brutal if you don't have the foundational strength. Some cats are literally under a pile of linemen, linebackers and or defensive backs most of the game whenever their number is called. That includes WR's as linemen do get downfield and put tackles/blocks for them (only for multiple of them to land on top of the WR). There are so many elite feats of strength the average person is unaware of on the football field, it's why many strong af players don't make it through a season - there's a lot of functional lifting going on for 60 minutes. Watch what happens during fumbles and imagine being some players on the ground trying to get up during those melees while everyone chases a oddly shaped object bouncing in weird ways for example.

NBA players def. aren't bad athletes, but I don't quite think they're built for the game of football.

 

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Outdated Entire list of mid players that made over 100 million in baseball before 2019

U don’t watch baseball. Literally everyone on that list was held in higher regard than Austin. 99% of that list were either all stars or supposed to be all stars. non were mid when they got their deals.

 

[FAH1223]

James Jones is a Super Bowl champion and played a critical part of that success

He can say what he wants

 

[djthegreat88]

U don’t watch baseball. Literally everyone on that list was held in higher regard than Austin. 99% of that list were either all stars or supposed to be all stars. non were mid when they got their deals.

Majority of that list is not stars. Just like NBA people got paid off potential or a flash in the pan. MLB contracts have tightened up recently. Doesn’t take away that some mid players got Rivera like money in MLB being role players

The worst Detroit Tigers SP right now Maeda is making $14 million a year to be terrible. He was signed to be back of rotation starter

 

[calh45]

This is such a horrible point. The football players play in short bursts so they can focus much more on building strength. Basketball players require much more cardio so they can't focus all their energy on strength. NBA players also have to focus more on body control, agility, and balance.

Also a lot of NBA players have a football past but once you get to a certain height it just makes sense to focus on basketball as the money has always been better and it's easier to stand out if you are a top player.

What NFL players have jumped on a court and held their own going full speed against NBA players? Freak NFL athletes like Randy Moss and TO just looked like an above average athlete when on the court with NBA players if that much.

For millions of dollars NBA players would definitely jump on an NFL field if it was an option. Y'all underestimate the toughness of NBA players. The physical toll playing 82 games a year takes on the body is a lot. There's a reason NBA players are also in ice baths and have all these measures to try and recover the body.

It's not a horrible point though. Football is a game of leverage where strength is a primary factor especially if you're taller. Leverage is why they need to be strong as fukk. Those short bursts are literally fighting each other. It's a different type of durability, but there is a lot of endurance involved in playing football. Fighting someone for 2 hours takes cardio. Ain't no non-lineman football player going to be winded in a basketball game.

Most NBA players are removed from contention just because their strength to height ratio isn't in a range that would make them competitive while also keeping their agility. The average starting defensive lineman is Bron's weight AND agility level. Anyone in the current NBA above 6'4" is out immediately except Bron, PJ and Zion......and maybe Jimmy. Out of the rest of them I'd say Ant, Westbrook, and maybe Brunson physically are in the right space and that's not even getting into the mentality of needing to gear up every play and then crash dummy yourself into another cat......or even getting into the culture of what'll happen when an outsider intrudes aka every person is going to try to make them quit.

If it was just about athletic ability and capabilities like Austin is trying to simplify the argument into then the draft would be done based on everyone's measurables. This whole argument is about the NBA inferiority complex with the NFL. I guarantee you that it eats them up that regular season NFL games dwarf their finals views. I guarantee everyone if basketball players were an easy path to getting a HOF tight end then every NFL team would be scouting college basketball too.