Baltimore City student passes 3 classes in four years, ranks near top half of class with 0.13 GPA

[Rell Lauren]

He probably didnt apply himself. And once you get your GED, take an entrance exam, your HS grades dont matter. Its like starting with a clean slate with a college GPA

Yall be so quick to write people off lol you can always turn it around

The problem with that is that he hasn't exhibited the discipline to do good/well in high school. He's going to find that in someone's community college after a GED if he successfully passes the test?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

True, but we are talking about 200 days of school missed though lol.

I know of only one person who was missing days like that high and that was because she was spending time with her boyfriend lol. She was really smart, but just didn’t care to show up. Still passed to graduate though, but they didn’t let her walk across stage.

I went to one of the worst high schools in Baltimore but times have changed. The kids who missed all those days like that either got kicked out or just dropped out on their own. They definitely weren’t getting advanced to the next grade

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Agian was the kid left behind or was he a degenerate that didn't want to go to school or learn?

School has plenty yo answer for, but where is personal responsibility from the home in all this?

Again, I think you fail to understand what our problem with "No Child Left Behind" is cause you're flexing this weird narrative based on the name of the bill instead of addressing the issue. The problem with No Child Left Behind was that it ruined schools, forced them to get rid of anything that would actually motivate a kid to be in school and replaced it with just constant standardized testing and test prep. I don't even consider most test prep to be meaningful learning and a lot of the kids don't either. It's no surprise when folk don't want to show up to sit in a desk and waste their time.


In terms of the family and personal responsibility, a LOT of us have spoken on that issue already in this thread. You got something to contribute to that or are you just gonna keep with that weird "blame the democrats!" shyt and whining about personal responsibility without proposing a solution?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I went to one of the worst high schools in Baltimore but times have changed. The kids who missed all those days like that either got kicked out or just dropped out on their own. They definitely weren’t getting advanced to the next grade

I saw social promotion happen quite a few times in Jr High School where there dudes legit 16 or 17 and in the 8th grade with us. The weirdest thing about it is that they were actually showing up to school, but just not doing the work or caring to know how to do it. School moved them up one by one and we never saw them again.

Didn’t see any social promotion at all though when I changed schools in the 9th grade.

 

[Easy-E]

Failure all around..The mother, absent father, the trash ass school system, society, the community...

An alphabet soup of shyt.

This is the best way to put this shyt. Because, at a point, we can't put it all on the school system.

0.13 GPA? Dafuq?

How do you not know your child failed every class until he's 17?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I saw social promotion happen quite a few times in Jr High School where there dudes legit 16 or 17 and in the 8th grade with us. The weirdest thing about it is that they were actually showing up to school, but just not doing the work or caring to know how to do it. School moved them up one by one and we never saw them again.

Didn’t see any social promotion at all though when I changed schools in the 9th grade.

The issue is that social promotion doesn't really work but all the data shows that forcing them to repeat the grade doesn't work either. If you do social promotion then a lot of them end up becoming 12th-graders without learning or being ready to graduate. If you force them to repeat the grade then a lot of them end up just dropping out. Outcomes are shytty either way.

 

[RiffRaff]

Yeah we know the school system is fukked, but as a PARENT knowing this you need to be doing everything you can at home to make sure they are getting what they need and home teaching, starting from diapers. People who don’t realize this don’t need to be having kids tbh.

 

[Vandelay]

Only ran through the first page, but no one mentioned how he's in the top half of the class? Am I reading this wrong?

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Why even use social promotion to get him from one course to the next only to put him back at the starting line after wasting the three previous years? Though technically you can fail your pre-requisite courses and move on to the next one, you just have to take the failed courses concurrently. However, that usually takes intervention from the counselor and/or parent. Otherwise you're most likely going to have to complete the failed course first, which makes sense, particularly for a chronic failure. It was obvious he couldn't be trusted to handle these courses simultaneously but it gave the illusion that he was progressing, even if it was a cheap optical illusion. His mother was definitely fooled.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Only ran through the first page, but no one mentioned how he's in the top half of the class? Am I reading this wrong?

It's been mentioned throughout the thread. You're not reading it wrong. It's an institutional failure from top to bottom. Add in that kids have been remote since last March and you have an entire graduating class that has a GPA near or at 0.00.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The issue is that social promotion doesn't really work but all the data shows that forcing them to repeat the grade doesn't work either. If you do social promotion then a lot of them end up becoming 12th-graders without learning or being ready to graduate. If you force them to repeat the grade then a lot of them end up just dropping out. Outcomes are shytty either way.


When I was helping design a charter school, and later working in a very good school, this was one of the biggest issues we struggled with. The only way out we saw was very heavy early intervention during the school year and then summer classes between school years. You have to do everything possible to keep them with their peer group AND ensure that they've actually learned the shyt they need to learn to keep going. There's no easy way out so just arguing about "should we force him to repeat or should we social promote him?" doesn't solve any problems because the outcome is failure either way.

They didn't even the mindset of people their age let alone having the knowledge or being ready to graduate. They weren't mentally challenged, but the had the mentality of 8th grades as they were around us while we were there. Looking back on it, there was no way they were ready to be in high school, yet social promotion moved them up to do so.

So what is the best option if all of the outcomes are shytty?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They didn't even the mindset of people their age let alone having the knowledge or being ready to graduate. They weren't mentally challenged, but the had the mentality of 8th grades as they were around us while we were there. Looking back on it, there was no way they were ready to be in high school, yet social promotion moved them up to do so.

So what is the best option if all of the outcomes are shytty?

Intensive early intervention. A school system that identifies the struggling kids who are in danger of failing long before they've failed and then does everything possible to catch them up.

The other alternatives don't stop kids from failing, they just determine which way they're going to fail.

Personally, I would never hold a kid back, because what's the use of repeating the exact same shyt that failed the first time? But I wouldn't socially promote them without intervention either. If you do every intervention possible and nothing works, if the kid refuses to go to school or can't perform at his grade level regardless of what you do, and say after two years of failure you've run out of options and nothing seems to be working, then you transfer him into an alternative school or special ed or some other option.

 

[Vandelay]

It's been mentioned throughout the thread. You're not reading it wrong. It's an institutional failure from top to bottom. Add in that kids have been remote since last March and you have an entire graduating class that has a GPA near or at 0.00.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Intensive early intervention. A school system that identifies the struggling kids who are in danger of failing long before they've failed and then does everything possible to catch them up.

The other alternatives don't stop kids from failing, they just determine which way they're going to fail.

Unfortunately, that requires a collaborative effort from multiple parties that doesn't usually happen more times not. Case in point of this story. Family, friends and the school system all failed in this situation as he seems to have slipped through the cracks until it was too late.

 

[Why-Fi]

as for the absences a single mom cant really control no teenage boy.
really the school has to answer for him being one of their best students. dr umar told yall this shyt was happening
these schools are on welfare