Banks foreclosing on churches in record numbers

[the cac mamba]

I guess we should also give up English, French, Portuguese, etc. Oh while we're at it, let's all quit school - it's the white man's education! Better yet, let's leave the country and go back to the land of our ancestors...Where exactly do we draw the line with that logic? This is a serious question because I see so many people use the whole "slave master religion" as a counter to Christianity and I never understood why it never applies to other things.

true, but those things are all tangible

a lot of the world speaks english. a degree will help get you a job. regardless of origin and the motive of whites, that much is at least true

asking the clouds when jesus is gonna come back and thinking hes watching you til then, never did a tangible thing for anybody. isnt that a fair place to draw a line

 

[Poitier]

Be dumb and think Kings allowed free markets

Confuse Mercantilism and Capitalism

 

[beenz]

there are simply too many churches trying to sustain themselves with a dwindling number of constituents? drive thru englewood out here. you'll see multiple churches on every block, but you don't see many businesses.

how do all these churches think they are going to exist when the communities they server are poverty-stricken, largely unemployed or underemployed???

 

[Verbal Kint]

It absolutely needs to be celebrated IMO. Black people in America have no business being Christians. That's the religion of our slave masters.

Why don't you list who should be what religion. Make sure to account for all those murdered and enslaved by Muslims, Jews, atheists and the rest

 

[Poitier]

there are simply too many churches trying to sustain themselves with a dwindling number of constituents? drive thru englewood out here. you'll see multiple churches on every block, but you don't see many businesses.

how do all these churches think they are going to exist when the communities they server are poverty-stricken, largely unemployed or underemployed???

You make the false assumption that Black folks will be the ones buying those properties.

 

[the cac mamba]

Why don't you list who should be what religion. Make sure to account for all those murdered and enslaved by Muslims, Jews, atheists and the rest

no one should be any religion until god confirms whose religion is correct

pure and simple statistics make it inevitable that most people practicing religion are wrong and wasting their time

 

[Verbal Kint]

I understand mortgages, balloon payments, etc. What I dont understand is where is the money...
Tithes
Tax exempt
Least likely type of property to be foreclosed on

You literally can't lose unless you (a.) stole the money or (b.) "misappropriated" the money

These churches fund everything based strictly on the money given by their congregation. Mortgage, utilities, any church workers, etc. All comes from giving so its very easy to lose if people move, run into hard times or simply choose not to give.

 

[beenz]

You make the false assumption that Black folks will be the ones buying those properties.

say that black people don't buy the property. the black community would be better served with a factory, no matter who owns it, taking the place of that church due to the job creation alone in the community.

 

[Red Shield]

Be dumb and think Kings allowed free markets

Confuse Mercantilism and Capitalism

free markets breh. I ain't dead7

and I know what mercentilism and capitalism are jackass

 

[Wild self]

They need to go after the mega churches and make them broke.

 

[Poitier]

say that black people don't buy the property. the black community would be better served with a factory, no matter who owns it, taking the place of that church due to the job creation alone in the community.

Factory? Is this 1940

Try artisinal yogurt shops and yoga centers to gentrify those areas

 

[Poitier]

They need to go after the mega churches and make them broke.

Ironically, the mega churches that actually prey on people will be fine .....capitalism

 

[Verbal Kint]

Regarding the main issue, though. Churches definitely need to be fiscally responsible. Issue is many churches aren't run properly, not due to corruption but simply because people lack knowledge. Most churches don't have trained accountants handling their money, they have pastors who may or may not have ever taken a class dealing with handling money and leadership boards made up of people from various backgrounds. Plus many service poor congregations. And like someone said, there are probably too many churches out there that aren't actually effective

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I feel like the issues you're stating come from the lack of a wide known and universally accepted leaders in the black community.

I disagree 100%. In the 60's there was no universally accepted leaders in the black community and the church was still the center of the movement. Many black churches wouldn't even let Dr. King speak at many of their churches. They accused him of being a trouble maker, and we all know how much they disliked Malcolm X. Those were the 2 biggest icons of that era and neither of them was universally accepted, liked, or supported. Once they died, everyone idolized them and pretends they were universally loved.

Also the SCLC (and Dr. King) wouldn't provide any support to the Deacons of Defense because they believed in being armed. But despite no universal leader, the black church was still the center of the civil rights movement.

But to say churches do not stand for the issues that you mentioned is ignorant. The churches that could be affected by this are doing what you asked, just on a community scale rather the nationwide scale that you're asking for.

I didn't say they didn't stand on those issues, I'm asking you to 1) show me what they've done regarding those issues and 2) have they have taken a leadership role on those issues the same way the black church took a leadership role on the civil rights movement.

 

[King Poetic]

1.. where is the church money going??? The first thing you do is take care of the property and taxes and loans...

2.. u secondly pay the lights and gas bills

3.. u then take care of your people in the church and u can earn their trust and money and reinvest it back in the church


I guess living out in the burbs with the wife and kids and taking exotic trips to the Caribbean is number one on most of these guys