Bargaining With The Devil

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Sometimes, your fiercest enemies end up being your allies, and your closest friends become your most feared adversaries. Hate Trump and Republicans all you want, and there's plenty to dislike the guy for, but I think we are on the horizon of black America taking notice of how actual change occurs and what separates that from the illusion of progress.

Ever since the Civil Rights Act, black America had been a devout follower of the Democratic party, supporting them with overwhelming numbers in every election. And during that time, in spite of our unwavering support, we have not see a marked improvement in the condition of black America from the time before that legislation was signed into law; in fact, an argument can be made that we've declined as a community the more we've been integrated into American society.

Black people are going to have to come to an understanding that this pathological need for acceptance from white people has stalled our progress as a people. Instead of loving ourselves and recognizing the beauty of being black, we've sought approval from white people, sacrificing dignity for pats on the head.

Brokering a deal that guarantees us reparations would seem to be more achievable by working with the party that stands to benefit the most from the racial question disappearing from the political landscape. Democrats have spent decades depending on black people, stoking the fears within our community to garner support, while never actually doing anything to allay those fears. Republicans have consistently stressed certain values that would almost certainly benefit our community if their wholesale adoption occurred.

Is it not fair to say that, in exchange for reparations, black support of a Republican platform in which values that are advantageous to our community's growth would be a reasonable asking price? Do not Republicans stand to gain the most by supporting the reparations movement? Aren't Democrats the ones who would lose their position as the only party on whom black people can depend for some nebulous concept of "equality" if Republicans supported the reparations movement?

I predict that you will see the reparations and ADOS movement begin making appeals to Republicans for support because of the value their party would stand to gain from that effort succeeding.

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You should really add a cliffs too this OP, but I'm in. :hamster:

Essentially, I believe that the path to reparations for black ADOS is to form an alliance with the Republican party and to break free from a Democratic party that has used our oppression for electoral support that ultimately benefits every marginalized class but us. We have been conned by Democrats into thinking Republicans are our true enemy, and I'm no longer convinced they are. :francis:
 

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Essentially, I believe that the path to reparations for black ADOS is to form an alliance with the Republican party and to break free from a Democratic party that has used our oppression for electoral support that ultimately benefits every marginalized class but us. We have been conned by Democrats into thinking Republicans are our true enemy, and I'm no longer convinced they are. :francis:
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Interested in hearing more thoughts on this.
All our lives, thanks to the media and our own personal relations, we've been instructed that Republicans are evil and Democrats are our saviors. Every electoral cycle, we are led to believe that voting for Democrats will lead us closer to salvation, that each step towards freedom is won with each electoral win of the Democrat running for office. But, the opposite has been the case, though we haven't paid attention to it. It isn't Republicans who've kept our population stagnant; it's been Democrats and their support of the abortion industry. It isn't Republicans who've aggressively sought mass incarceration; it's been Democrats, in an effort to appear "tough on crime(black people)," who've pushed the draconian laws which have resulted in millions of black men being removed from our society and consigned to a lifetime of either incarceration or institutional confinement in the justice system.

I know Republicans are racist - all cacs are. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell himself recently came out and said reparations isn't feasible and is a pipe dream. He was paying lip service to his base. I think, from a tactical perspective, Republicans are now giving some thought to the feasibility of paying reparations to black ADOS. They can't help but see how divisive the topic is in a Democratic party that wants to superficially curry favor with black people for the purpose of winning elections and nothing else. They know that if they come out for support of reparations, doing so will awaken black America to the very real benefits to our community that are included within the Republican platform.

What has always kept us from Republicans is the jingoistic, nationalist (i.e., white supremacist) undercurrent of its platform. But that has always been an electoral strategy more than a driving philosophy, a means of distinguishing them from Democrats and appealing to white America. I think Republicans will fashion a convincing argument to their base that supports reparations and distinguishes it from the "identify politics" commonly identified with Democrats.

If black ADOS can make a bargain with the devil, one that guarantees the obsolescence of the Democratic party, we should. :francis:
 
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What tangibles are Republicans offering?

I'm not impressed with the current state of black communities in republican controlled districts.

The c00nery of black communities located in blue regions is much higher than those that are red. A 69 isn't coming out of a city like Memphis. Republicans aren't offering any tangibles, because they have no reason to, since we are still slavishly reliable supporters of Democrats.
 
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Yall can keep playing the same game and earning nothing in return. In many circles, they call that insanity. ADOS stands to receive nothing from the Democratic party. Leveraging our power as the sole determinant electoral bloc upon whom Democrats depend is how we earn reparations. The only way to achieve that is to divert our support to the Republican party after brokering a deal. I'm thinking in terms of chess. Black people who want to continue thinking that we have to vote Democrat to avoid our demise are playing checkers. :mjgrin:
 
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As a Native American saying once stated, Both wings belong to the same Bird (White Supermacy).

You're speaking about bargining with the devil to say Black Americans haven't and already aren't bargining with the devil (The Democrats are just as demonic as the Rebublicans are in their treatment towards Black Americans)

Imo, there is no win win situation for Black Americans, especially if both parties have an innate hatred towards Black people.
 
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As a Native American saying once stated, Both wings belong to the same Bird (White Supermacy).

You're speaking about bargining with the devil to say Black Americans haven't and already aren't bargining with the devil (The Democrats are just as demonic as the Rebublicans are in their treatment towards Black Americans)

Imo, there is no win win situation for Black Americans, especially if both parties have an innate hatred towards Black people.

No, a bargain with the Devil has you make a trade for a tangible benefit. Black ADOS haven't received any tangible benefit from any "bargain" they've had with Democrats. It's because we've never bargained with Democrats from a position of _power_. They know we were weak and needed help, so they threw us crumbs and placated us for as long as they could without actually improving our condition. Bargaining with Republicans is something we can do with _power_, because we hold the destiny of the Democratic party in our hands. We can effectively render the party obsolete, which is why they're so desperate to welcome illegals into our country, knowing their hold over black people is waning.

That's the difference. Bargaining from a position of _power_. :francis:
 

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The c00nery of black communities located in blue regions is much higher than those that are red. A 69 isn't coming out of a city like Memphis. Republicans aren't offering any tangibles, because they have no reason to, since we are still slavishly reliable supporters of Democrats.
1.Please define the metrics that quantify "c00nery" and link me to stats on how these metrics differ between red/blue municipalities.

2. What is "a 69" and what does it have to do with blacks in Memphis?

3. Why would we offer the Republicans votes when they haven't presented tangibles first? What kind of logic is this? We have to vote for them first BEFORE they offer us a reason to?!?!? Explain
 

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Can’t and won’t vote those John Birch Society/Heritage Foundation mfers in

They have literal nazis in their think tanks

It’s fukk gop for life
 
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