Bargaining With The Devil

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1.Please define the metrics that quantify "c00nery" and link me to stats on how these metrics differ between red/blue municipalities.

2. What is "a 69" and what does it have to do with blacks in Memphis?

3. Why would we offer the Republicans votes when they haven't presented tangibles first? What kind of logic is this? We have to vote for them first BEFORE they offer us a reason to?!?!? Explain

A "69" is the spicy cac rapper who build his brand off of black c00ns in NY and eventually ended up in prison as an informant who turned on the city's biggest gang, which was predominantly black.

Republicans, seeing us consistently give Democrats our vote since the 60s, have no incentive for giving us tangibles.

We have to sit down with Republicans and broker a deal that guarantees them our support in exchange for the tangibles that the Democrats have failed to provide. The reason why this is feasible is because much of the Republican platform is appealing to a traditionally conservative ADOS community. Family, education, entrepreneurship and other conservative values are more popular within the ADOS community than white Democrats believe.
 
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Can’t and won’t vote those John Birch Society/Heritage Foundation mfers in

They have literal nazis in their think tanks

It’s fukk gop for life


You're lost, breh. When you look at our marginalization and the disintegration of a black community in America, it isn't the Republicans who've initiated that. It's a Democratic party that embraced the LGBQT agenda; a Democratic party that used our social currency to win elections in cities where they never tended to our needs; a Democratic party who still asks us to come out and generate record turnouts for candidates like Doug Jones, but implores that we hold our tongue when it comes to discussions of reparations for slavery. GOP isn't the reason ADOS is in such terrible shape. :francis:
 

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The c00nery of black communities located in blue regions is much higher than those that are red. A 69 isn't coming out of a city like Memphis. Republicans aren't offering any tangibles, because they have no reason to, since we are still slavishly reliable supporters of Democrats.
Tennessee (the state) is red but Memphis (the city) is blue.
 

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I predict that you will see the reparations and ADOS movement begin making appeals to Republicans for support because of the value their party would stand to gain from that effort succeeding.

Helping black people is an affront to the people the Republican base depends on most, tho. A single helping hand to people of African Descent is viewed as a betrayal by their voting core. There is no alliance with these people.

The progressive movement is slowly partitioning the democratic party. Voting in younger, less retarded people and making local demands while keeping reparations at the forefront of talking points is a far better solution than appealing to warmongers and bigots. You can't join forces with people who will take your vote while at the same time ingratiating themselves with literal neo-nazis.

They call it a deal with the devil for a reason. It implies losing something substantial in return for what you seek. Your implying a symbiotic relationship the issue is the Republican base is thriving whilst marginalizing black people simultaneously. Their core is actually willing to suffer and struggle while going along for the ride as well.
 

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A "69" is the spicy cac rapper who build his brand off of black c00ns in NY and eventually ended up in prison as an informant who turned on the city's biggest gang, which was predominantly black.

Republicans, seeing us consistently give Democrats our vote since the 60s, have no incentive for giving us tangibles.

We have to sit down with Republicans and broker a deal that guarantees them our support in exchange for the tangibles that the Democrats have failed to provide. The reason why this is feasible is because much of the Republican platform is appealing to a traditionally conservative ADOS community. Family, education, entrepreneurship and other conservative values are more popular within the ADOS community than white Democrats believe.
1. You still haven't defined any metrics and shown the comparison between red/blue municipalities.

2. What does a random rapper have to do with policy? And what does that rapper have to do with Memphis? Explain the relevance to political ideology?

3. Family services and support, public education, and small business entrepreneurship are all things republican policy does not promote. Why would you expect us to vote for them when they consistently cut family services, their municipalities fall behind in public education and child related support, and they promote laws that give big business unfair advantages?
 

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These people

OP

Are either straight up white racists pretending to be Black or they are in cahoots with or fooled by white racists

They are trying to get you to support Trump by not voting or voting for Trump

The repubs are Nazis and KKK members so they only want you dead. Your family. Your hood.

Vote out every repub every time you're allowed to vote
 

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What has always kept us from Republicans is the jingoistic, nationalist (i.e., white supremacist) undercurrent of its platform. But that has always been an electoral strategy more than a driving philosophy, a means of distinguishing them from Democrats and appealing to white America. I think Republicans will fashion a convincing argument to their base that supports reparations and distinguishes it from the "identify politics" commonly identified with Democrats.
Helping black people is an affront to the people the Republican base depends on most, tho. A single helping hand to people of African Descent is viewed as a betrayal by their voting core.

:jbhmm: How do you square that circle?

Good thread, though. We need to be having this conversation. This is how you do politics.
 
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1. You still haven't defined any metrics and shown the comparison between red/blue municipalities.

Comparison between whom? Black people in blue cities and those in red areas? The majority of black people in Democratic strongholds of Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Boston are living horribly. What are you looking to compare?

3. Family services and support, public education, and small business entrepreneurship are all things republican policy does not promote.

Not true. The libertarian wing, which has always existed on the fringe, asserted control after Obama’s election in the form of the Tea Party. Under Nixon and even Reagan, the Republican party was not nearly as austere in its economic policy.


Why would you expect us to vote for them when they consistently cut family services, their municipalities fall behind in public education and child related support, and they promote laws that give big business unfair advantages?

It’s about leveraging our power, whether by withholding support of the Democrats and staying home or using our electoral might to make a bargain with the Devil and broker and end to the impasse that has prevented Republicans from gaining power in blue strongholds. We have the power to grant Republicans a clear path to complete electoral control of the country.

Why aren’t we using it? :francis:
 
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