Barkley Says LeBron Not Up There With Jordan and Kobe

[THE MACHINE]

Bron hand picked love, kyrie, bosh, wade, AD, WB, Ray Allen. Imagine Kobe or MJ handpicking that many HOF

Maybe not hand picked, but Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Gasol, Nash, Dwight weren’t exactly bums. Not to mention being drafted to a 53 win team and having Jerry Buss, Jerry West in the f/o with Phil Jackson on the way.

Glenn Rice, often overlooked, in the 2 seasons before he joined the Lakers averaged 25ppg on 45% shooting from 3, 2x All-NBA, 2x All-Star and All-Star MVP

 

[JJ Lions]

Compared to the competition? .

Lebron when playing in the East vs. Jordan playing in the East.

You very well know Lebron had a much easier path getting to the Finals.

 

[Karume]

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  • Odds: Magic +550 / Cavaliers -700

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Goes to show what I said early about casuals and Vegas odds considering the magic where 10-1 in the previous 11 meetings prior to that series if I'm not mistaken

 

[CHICAGO]

Goes to show what I said early about casuals and Vegas odds considering the magic where 10-1 in the previous 11 meetings prior to that series if I'm not mistaken

FOH

CAVS WERE FAVORITED TO WIN THE EAST PERIOD.

NOBODY GIVES A fukk ABOUT
THAT REGULAR SEASON shyt.

GETCHO GOOGLING ASS OUTTA HERE.

BRON LOST AS THE FAVORITE
3 SEASONS IN A ROW.

NO GOAL POSTS MOVES.

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[LexDiamonds]

Kobe played as bad or worse against Dallas that same year and looked just as bad himself in the 2000 and 2004 Finals not to mention a bunch of sad elimination games in big series.

MJ doesn't have any real bad series in his career, which is a big reason he's #1, but he looked pretty bad in Games 4-6 on the 1996 Finals and that was the biggest stage.

Not to mention the 2008 nba finals getting blown out by 40 and shooting 7-22 in the closeout game.

 

[Chris Cool]

Nike had a whole Kobe vs lebron campaign.

But nobody thought the Cavs were favored.

 

[Osmosis]

Pick 2 random bums and leave out Gary Payton, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson etc, those are just the teams in the Finals, not to mention the teams in the East they had to get thru to even get to the Finals.

You very well know Lebron's path thru the East was easier than the Bulls/Jordan

How? The 1994 Bulls, with a cat named Pete Myers replacing Jordan, went 7 games against the Knicks-- arguably the Bulls' toughest Eastern Conference opponent. Of course they're going to beat teams like the Knicks if they were almost capable of beating them without Jordan.

Kobe was on the Lakers before Shaq so no, he isn’t talking facts actually. If Logo doesn’t succeed in FA with Shaq then it’s a totally different story.

That's the point though, Kobe was drafted by the Lakers. Cleveland wasn't signing someone like Shaq via free-agency.

 

[Karume]

FOH

CAVS WERE FAVORITED TO WIN THE EAST PERIOD.

NOBODY GIVES A fukk ABOUT
THAT REGULAR SEASON shyt.

GETCHO GOOGLING ASS OUTTA HERE.

BRON LOST AS THE FAVORITE
3 SEASONS IN A ROW.

NO GOAL POSTS MOVES.

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I apologize I was trying for intelligent conversation. I'll look elsewhere in the future.

 

[BigTyme Records]

Strongly disagree with Chuck.

but y’all don’t get tired of arguing this? Lol

 

[Trojan 24]

Community been real aggy since Giannis took the crown from KD

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Wade put up 20ppg in the 2013 Finals, he had 23 in G7 and he had 32 in G4 when they were down 2-1. In the wins where he scored under 20, Mario Chalmers had 19 and 20 in those games

Chris Bosh wasnt scoring cuz Bron had him in the corner.

Wait, so it's an unbeatable superteam cause his #2 averaged 20ppg and they also had Mario Chalmers?

Complete lie that Bosh was stuck in the corner on those squads. Only 4% of Bosh's FGA that season were corner threes, he ended up shooting about as many corner threes as Bron did. How would he even be able to be in the corner when Ray Allen was in the corner on one side and Battier or Miller were stationed on the other side more often than not? Even Chalmers shot twice as many corner threes as Bosh.

More proof that you go with narratives more than actually watching the game.

Chris Bosh wasnt scoring cuz Bron had him in the corner. Bosh would've dropped 19+ as a second option if he played with Kobe.

Bosh woulda dropped 19-20 as the 2nd option with Bron too, but he was the 3rd option, not 2nd.


Pau fell all the way to 13ppg when he had to be Kobe's 3rd option.

Artest went from 17ppg to just 11ppg when he had to be Kobe's 3rd option.

Glen Rice only averaged 16ppg as the 3rd option and that was before Kobe was even dominating the ball like that.

 

[JJ Lions]

How? The 1994 Bulls, with a cat named Pete Myers replacing Jordan, went 7 games against the Knicks-- arguably the Bulls' toughest Eastern Conference opponent. Of course they're going to beat teams like the Knicks if they were almost capable of beating them without Jordan.

That's the point though, Kobe was drafted by the Lakers. Cleveland wasn't signing someone like Shaq via free-agency.

You picked 1 series, instead of all of them?

Again, Eastern Conference was a much tougher path for Jordan compared to Lebron. Everybody knows the Eastern Conference has been weak during Lebron's years playing there. It was a cake walk for him, it's probably why when he faced actual competition in the Finals he's 4-6. I think the tougher Eastern Conference during the Jordan years helped prepare them for the Finals, 6-0.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I apologize I was trying for intelligent conversation. I'll look elsewhere in the future.

Imagine MJ or Kobe averaging 40-8-8 on 50% shooting for an entire series and then getting blamed for the loss.

Most of Kobe's losses were more like 25-6-6 on 40% shooting and they still blame his teammates.

 

[Karume]

Community been real aggy since Giannis took the crown from KD

KD has never had a crown

 

[Karume]

Imagine MJ or Kobe averaging 40-8-8 on 50% shooting for an entire series and then getting blamed for the loss.

Most of Kobe's losses were more like 25-6-6 on 40% shooting, but these casuals think Bron's solo performance against the Magic was worse.

The reality is when you are the King everyone both supporters AND detractors hold you to higher standards than others