krackdagawd
Inspire.
I would go as far to say that Kurt has more classic matches than Bret imo. In no way am I saying that Bret sucks but I cosign Kurt doing everything hitman does better.
Hell I would say Kurt in tna>>>Bret in WCW by far.
Be Real, Bret Hart Is Not Top 5
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I would go as far to say that Kurt has more classic matches than Bret imo. In no way am I saying that Bret sucks but I cosign Kurt doing everything hitman does better.
Hell I would say Kurt in tna>>>Bret in WCW by far.
CJ
Your objective semi-troll
@dbp said most of what I was going to say, relating to the book excerpts.
I'd also like to add that we aren't talking about a 27-32 year old Bret Hart that jumped ship to WCW in his prime. The guy was 40 looking for a few good years where he could make an impact, then chill in a corporate roll. No drive would have been able to overcome the political clusterfukk of WCW with Bischoff turning to Hogan for final booking approval. Not to mention he had to make amends with both Flair/Hogan just to avoid getting backstabbed. Hogan feared he would exploit him, and it showed with the constant "with NWO/not with NWO" hot potato storylines they put him through.
Comparing him to Rock/Austin is apples to oranges as those guys were hitting their prime years. Where were their drives at 40? Austin, took his ball and went home numerous times, then eventually retired. The Rock? Coming back after a 7 year hiatus. Both now returning (Austin pending) to stamp their legacy officially. I'm not knocking them (both in my top 5) but being objective. Bret already had his 20 years of work cemented that he didn't care to being pushed as the top guy in WCW. Despite his persona he portrays of feeling entitled, he was a team player (MTL screwjob excluded.) I'm sure making 3 mil/year to finish his career made it easy and laughable on his part to work with whatever forgettable reigns they could give him (US title/Tag titles with Goldberg and his eventual World Title victory at Mayhem.) I'd be sitting in the stands too, like he did on Thunder.
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CJ
Your objective semi-troll
The latter I would agree with, but I was talking more about their runs in the E.
As far as the former, I guess we'd have to stack up the classics. Those two in a bout is easily my dream match, as I've mentioned before. Shame we couldn't see it.
Always try to be objective on here but the random hate this guy gets out of nowhere is baffling. I hate the feeling of stanning, this is what it's like to be R=G eh?
Scotch Hall
All Star
dudes wildin on youtube
was just watching a quiz show
Bret's not even close to being in my top 20-30 favorite wrestlers.
But at the end of the day this all personal opinion
But at the end of the day this all personal opinion
CJ
Your objective semi-troll
Bret's not even close to being in my top 20-30 favorite wrestlers.
But at the end of the day this all personal opinion
That's alright, same for me when it comes to Hogan/Flair. All opinion/preference though.
Tragic that we never got Hart/Angle. Match could've been one of the greatest of all-time. I think if Bret never suffered the concussion/stroke, we would've gotten it because I think if Bret felt he could still go, he would've been open to working with WWE earlier. Out of all the dream matches that have never happened, that's #1 on my list.
Bret is the GOAT to me. Hogan is #2 (even if I hate what he's become in the last 10 years). After that, it gets harder to pick.
Bret is the GOAT to me. Hogan is #2 (even if I hate what he's become in the last 10 years). After that, it gets harder to pick.
The Prince of All Saiyans
Formerly Jisoo Stan & @Twitter
going down this road are youtrue
the so called "bionic redneck goat" was a lame while fueding with "Wildman" Marc Mero but he didnt get true shine till Bret Hart had to babysit him through the Main Event ranks
Also mentioned in his book is the Goldberg plate angle. That's the one angle he said he really enjoyed, and it went over well. I bet if he got to do stuff like that more often in WCW, his experience and impact would've been much greater.
The more anecdotes that come out over time, the more I realize that WCW was a FAR bigger clusterfukk than we even realized, and that's saying something
The more anecdotes that come out over time, the more I realize that WCW was a FAR bigger clusterfukk than we even realized, and that's saying something
Eddie vs Bret would of been better because it's always been better than Kurt. Kurt does everything Benoit does but more spot like. It's easy to know his matches just off the top of your head. He goes a little silly with that ankle lock reversion over and over again too.
@dbp
Comparing him to Rock/Austin is apples to oranges as those guys were hitting their prime years. Where were their drives at 40? Austin, took his ball and went home numerous times, then eventually retired. The Rock? Coming back after a 7 year hiatus. Both now returning (Austin pending) to stamp their legacy officially. I'm not knocking them (both in my top 5) but being objective. Bret already had his 20 years of work cemented that he didn't care to being pushed as the top guy in WCW. Despite his persona he portrays of feeling entitled, he was a team player (MTL screwjob excluded.) I'm sure making 3 mil/year to finish his career made it easy and laughable on his part to work with whatever forgettable reigns they could give him (US title/Tag titles with Goldberg and his eventual World Title victory at Mayhem.) I'd be sitting in the stands too, like he did on Thunder.
Your right. He was intelligent enough to take the money when Vince turned on him.
As for catalogs? Just depends on what you like. He had good tag work and of course the IC stuff with Perfect and British Bulldog. Bret Hart is a cult like figure in wrestling history but some of the negatives add to his legacy over what he contributed.
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malbaker86
Gators
Lol at Bret not being top 5. You my dawg for real but this some bullshyt.
Bret only had 9 years as a singles competitor and the only ones i'd say that was better than him if you take everything about wresting into account is Hogan, Austin, The Rock and that's it.
Bret only had 9 years as a singles competitor and the only ones i'd say that was better than him if you take everything about wresting into account is Hogan, Austin, The Rock and that's it.
