The crux of this particular issue is that women do not know the the difference and it simply does not matter. A guy could NOT spend any money on a woman, NOT give excessive attention to her ,and NOT be a pushover BUT if he is mainly respectful towards her and people in general, he is STILL viewed as soft/weak and the said female will try to come at him sideways with bullshyt. And I guarantee that the same female would NOT try to play games with a guy with an overall DISRESPECTFUL disposition, which I have seen quite a bit. But women will still denies this.
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The crux of this particular issue is that women do not know the the difference and it simply does not matter. A guy could NOT spend any money on a woman, NOT give excessive attention to her ,and NOT be a pushover BUT if he is mainly respectful towards her and people in general, he is STILL viewed as soft/weak and the said female will try to come at him sideways with bullshyt. And I guarantee that the same female would NOT try to play games with a guy with an overall DISRESPECTFUL disposition, which I have seen quite a bit. But women will still denies this.
There is no such thing as the friend zone. Please stop spreading this myth. If a female rejects you and you continue to hang around her anyway and call it the friend zone that doesn't make it real. All that really happened is you got shot down and couldn't accept the loss. Your denial is not a zone.
Y'all are so extreme, it's literally only black and white with y'all.
Side 1: Women don't want men who are respectful, they want men who dog them out and make them feel like shyt.(this is the kind of woman you are sad/mad about not having though)
Side 2: I take her out to lunch everyday, shower her with nice things, fill up her tank.(but you wonder why women expect you to spend money and kiss her ass to get p*ssy)
Nothing in between.
Maybe it's not the fact that you are "nice". Maybe it's the fact that you are fukking bi-polar and retarded.
First off, I am no where near being retarded and bipolar. Secondly, I do NOT do ANY favors for women nor shower them with gifts nor kiss their asses so you can go fukk yourself with that nonsense. Thirdly, I give ZERO fukks about any female who chooses to be with a guy who treats her like shyt since obviously she LIKES it and my thing is, I do not want TO EVER involve myself with a woman who has this type of dating history because I am not and refuse to be one of these captain-save-a-hoe ass nikkas that's out here. I was taught better than that.
My overall point of the my posts in this thread was that women want to always make claims that men do not treat them with respect and decency and that they are victims when in fact ALL men are not like this. Many women refuse to acknowledge that they consistently CHOSE men who did not show them ANY respect/decency and viewed ANY guy who conducted himself in a respectful manner as being weak/soft/lame/p*ssy, which negates ANY complaint women have about the respect or lack there of, exhibited by men towards them and also,women complaining about this shyt on tv, in magazines and online has become fukkin stupid.
DaChampIsHere
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My dude, what women do you hang around and associate yourself with who like being dogged and disrespected? That would be your first problem. I can't say I personally know or hang around any woman that wants to be disrespected and dogged by her boyfriend.
In any fashion, if you don't give ZERO fukks about such, why the hell do you keep complaining about something that does not effect you and women you do not want?
Truth is, you do give a fukk for whatever reason. Lastly, it's not because you are respectful. Maybe she just doesn't like you. Have you ever thought about that? Every female doesn't have to like you in that fashion just because you are respectable. Not to toot my horn, but I'm very respectful of women, typical gentleman, but I've amassed a very great level of success with women and I can say that my respectfulness towards women has attributed to such. Men aren't missing out on women because they are "respectful". Women know when they first see you if they wanna fukk or get with you. Ain't too much you can do good or bad to change that. Dudes are missing out on women because (a) they aren't attractive, (b) they have completely horrible personalities/social skills.
DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
Exactly. 
I don't care if you cook, clean my house, buy me shyt, etc. If I don't like you, I don't like you, end of story. I'm actually gonna think your crazy and stupid if you keep doing that stuff with no sight of what you really want in return. Getting women to understand this is
though. Some people think they really are entitled. If someone wants to be with you, they will be with you. Not havin' you do stuff for them.You been in the jump off zone for a reason.
My dude, what women do you hang around and associate yourself with who like being dogged and disrespected? That would be your first problem. I can't say I personally know or hang around any woman that wants to be disrespected and dogged by her boyfriend.
In any fashion, if you don't give ZERO fukks about such, why the hell do you keep complaining about something that does not effect you and women you do not want?
Lastly, it's not because you are respectful. Maybe she just doesn't like you. Have you ever thought about that? Every female doesn't have to like you in that fashion just because you are respectable. Not to toot my horn, but I'm very respectful of women, typical gentleman, but I've amassed a very great level of success with women and I can say that my respectfulness towards women has attributed to such. Men aren't missing out on women because they are "respectful". Women know when they first see you if they wanna fukk or get with you. Ain't too much you can do good or bad to change that. Dudes are missing out on women because (a) they aren't attractive, (b) they have completely horrible personalities/social skills.
Again, I was stating a pattern that myself as well as other guys have noticed more often than not. Also, I agree with the part regarding attraction mainly because I understanding and accept the fact that every woman I may be attracted to will not feel the same way about me. But the thing is, there have been women who were attracted to me initially but were later turned off. I did not do anything that would be offputting like simpish acts. However, I exhibited nothing but respectfulness and decency towards them and did not pressure them for sex first. However later down the line down, these women either shot me to the left or worse, tried to come at me like I was some fukkin simp. Hell, many of these particular women even accused me of being gay because I did not push for sex with them when I thought I was showing them respect by getting to know them instead of going for sex. So based on my experiences, my way of showing respectfulness was considered to be negative by these women although women CLAIM that for a man to be considered respectful of them, you should pursue them ONLY for their minds,NOT their bodies. This is taught to young boys by their mothers and other women,therefore internalizing this message and act in this manner believing what they were taught was correct but often proves to be otherwise years later.
Furthermore, I avoid surrounding myself with females ,even ones in my family, who deal with men who treated them poorly since all they want to talk about is how they man is dogging them out yet they still are with the dude. The way I see it is this: if something was NOT a problem BEFORE then it should not be a problem NOW.
I don't care if you cook, clean my house, buy me shyt, etc. If I don't like you, I don't like you, end of story. I'm actually gonna think your crazy and stupid if you keep doing that stuff with no sight of what you really want in return. Getting women to understand this is
You been in the jump off zone for a reason.
Bruh, lemme tell you bout a woman I met recently.
So there's a "friend" of mine who has had a crush on me for all of the six years I've known her. This friend is actually set to get married in June to her man of 4 years, with me MC'ing the wedding. Anyway, this friend is jealous of my gf...cuz well she still has some feelings for me (last time we chilled and drank together she was rubbing on my chest and my thigh and all kinds of shyt)...sooo, she finds a way to introduce me to her very pretty, very sexy, nice ass, D-cup having dark-skin (I have a weakness), educated, and smart friend to help give her advice on something. But she was kind've emotionally unstable.
So the new acquaintance, I let her know from jump I had a girl, but then she started talking bout we have a connection and all this spiritual shyt...which is whatever...and she's a lil older too...anyway, after a few weeks of talking to give her advice about her situation, she is REALLY trying to fukk. Taking me out to dinner, asking me to stay over, helping me with some career stuff and even bought me a Xmas present (though I told her not to)...she got me some diamond earrings! And they're nice! So of course, I accepted them.
Anyway, fast forward a couple weeks and she takes me out to dinner again (she was to help me with an opportunity and almost completely fukked it up, so she was making it up to me) and tries to get me to come home with her and I hit her with the Erykah Badu "Next Lifetime" intro speech, and said I got a gf, sorry.
Now she all mad and shyt, saying I took advantage, and maybe I did a lil bit, BUT I told her from jump what the situation was and to stop being so nice to me. At no point did I tell her I was going to hit it, or that I was going to leave my girl, AND I told her to stop being so damn nice! Texting and calling after I told her not to.
What was I supposed to do?
DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
Bruh, lemme tell you bout a woman I met recently.
So there's a "friend" of mine who has had a crush on me for all of the six years I've known her. This friend is actually set to get married in June to her man of 4 years, with me MC'ing the wedding. Anyway, this friend is jealous of my gf...cuz well she still has some feelings for me (last time we chilled and drank together she was rubbing on my chest and my thigh and all kinds of shyt)...sooo, she finds a way to introduce me to her very pretty, very sexy, nice ass, D-cup having dark-skin (I have a weakness), educated, and smart friend to help give her advice on something. But she was kind've emotionally unstable.
So the new acquaintance, I let her know from jump I had a girl, but then she started talking bout we have a connection and all this spiritual shyt...which is whatever...and she's a lil older too...anyway, after a few weeks of talking to give her advice about her situation, she is REALLY trying to fukk. Taking me out to dinner, asking me to stay over, helping me with some career stuff and even bought me a Xmas present (though I told her not to)...she got me some diamond earrings! And they're nice! So of course, I accepted them.
Anyway, fast forward a couple weeks and she takes me out to dinner again (she was to help me with an opportunity and almost completely fukked it up, so she was making it up to me) and tries to get me to come home with her and I hit her with the Erykah Badu "Next Lifetime" intro speech, and said I got a gf, sorry.
Now she all mad and shyt, saying I took advantage, and maybe I did a lil bit, BUT I told her from jump what the situation was and to stop being so nice to me. At no point did I tell her I was going to hit it, or that I was going to leave my girl, AND I told her to stop being so damn nice! Texting and calling after I told her not to.
What was I supposed to do?
Exactly. You told her from jump. Anything thereafter was her in the position of a friend (whether she genuinely wanted to be friends or not). You'd only be shiesty if you hid the truth about your feelings from her.Plus it's rude to turn down gifts. :word:
Great, so what the fukk are you complaining about? Funny how dudes on here have all these problems on females they don't bother themselves with or want.
Also, asking a woman for sex is completely different than "being disrespectful and dogging" someone out. There's a color called grey. Stop thinking in black and white. Like I said, bi-polar.
From one side of things to the complete opposite, that's all you're seeing/accounting for.
CrossBones
Louder than words
you shouldnt be nice at all. just be yourself. you eventually gonna find the right bytch that works for you.
Plus it's rude to turn down gifts. :word:
Haha, for real, now these rocks got my ears glistening, augmented a nikka's whole look and wardrobe.
CrossBones
Louder than words
Now she all mad and shyt, saying I took advantage, and maybe I did a lil bit, BUT I told her from jump what the situation was and to stop being so nice to me. At no point did I tell her I was going to hit it, or that I was going to leave my girl, AND I told her to stop being so damn nice! Texting and calling after I told her not to.
What was I supposed to do?
leave the woman alone. you knew she was into you and yet you kept spending time with her. always let your actions speak louder than words
leave the woman alone. you knew she was into you and yet you kept spending time with her. always let your actions speak louder than words
Word, I DID leave her alone a few times and she popped back up...but I gotta be real...she sexy as shyt...and that was difficult for a nikka to deal with.
I could've handled the situation better though, I feel you. It's all learning experiences for the kid. We have officially cut all communication now.
CrossBones
Louder than words
best thing for her to do also. but I know them thirsty chicks can have a man feeling like
