Being nice to her does not mean she owe you some puss

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DaChampIsHere,I know the difference between asking for sex and dogging out/disrespecting women. However, I think you did not FULLY grasp on to what I posted in my response to you because I specifically stated myself as well as many other men were taught as little boys that it was wrong and DISRESPECTFUL to ask for or move towards sex when you HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO KNOW A WOMAN AS A PERSON FIRST. But it is all good because I stand by what I say and plus we can agree to disagree.
 

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best thing for her to do also. but I know them thirsty chicks can have a man feeling like :myman: :ehh:

No doubt my nig...she would've been in my top 3 most attractive women I've fukked though...and she was emotionally unstable, so you know the sex woulda been good.

But you know, self control prevailed...unfortunately, haha



...last I heard, she fukking with her ex again. I met the dude...nice guy...still in love with her...and I felt bad that the three of us was chillin, knowing he wanted her back and she wanted me...it was fukked up all around...I left it all alone cuz I'm educated and employed, I don't need no drama.

...I was supposed to play ball with that dude, too...
 

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DaChampIsHere,I know the difference between asking for sex and dogging out/disrespecting women. However, I think you did not FULLY grasp on to what I posted in my response to you because I specifically stated myself as well as many other men were taught as little boys that it was wrong and DISRESPECTFUL to ask for or move towards sex when you HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO KNOW A WOMAN AS A PERSON FIRST. But it is all good because I stand by what I say and plus we can agree to disagree.

Yeaaaah, I remember when I used to think it was disrespectful to make moves before you got to know a woman...then I started hitting the clubs...

...I generally let a woman know I'm interested immediately, with my eyes and my actions...not necessarily directly with my words.
 

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Bruh, lemme tell you bout a woman I met recently.

So there's a "friend" of mine who has had a crush on me for all of the six years I've known her. This friend is actually set to get married in June to her man of 4 years, with me MC'ing the wedding. Anyway, this friend is jealous of my gf...cuz well she still has some feelings for me (last time we chilled and drank together she was rubbing on my chest and my thigh and all kinds of shyt)...sooo, she finds a way to introduce me to her very pretty, very sexy, nice ass, D-cup having dark-skin (I have a weakness), educated, and smart friend to help give her advice on something. But she was kind've emotionally unstable.

So the new acquaintance, I let her know from jump I had a girl, but then she started talking bout we have a connection and all this spiritual shyt...which is whatever...and she's a lil older too...anyway, after a few weeks of talking to give her advice about her situation, she is REALLY trying to fukk. Taking me out to dinner, asking me to stay over, helping me with some career stuff and even bought me a Xmas present (though I told her not to)...she got me some diamond earrings! And they're nice! So of course, I accepted them.

Anyway, fast forward a couple weeks and she takes me out to dinner again (she was to help me with an opportunity and almost completely fukked it up, so she was making it up to me) and tries to get me to come home with her and I hit her with the Erykah Badu "Next Lifetime" intro speech, and said I got a gf, sorry.

Now she all mad and shyt, saying I took advantage, and maybe I did a lil bit, BUT I told her from jump what the situation was and to stop being so nice to me. At no point did I tell her I was going to hit it, or that I was going to leave my girl, AND I told her to stop being so damn nice! Texting and calling after I told her not to.

What was I supposed to do?

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You learned the secret in the dating game in America: you already have a girl, which makes you more attractive. A Relationship is the gateway to getting more p*ssy.:boss:
 
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The crux of this particular issue is that women do not know the the difference and it simply does not matter. A guy could NOT spend any money on a woman, NOT give excessive attention to her ,and NOT be a pushover BUT if he is mainly respectful towards her and people in general, he is STILL viewed as soft/weak and the said female will try to come at him sideways with bullshyt. And I guarantee that the same female would NOT try to play games with a guy with an overall DISRESPECTFUL disposition, which I have seen quite a bit. But women will still denies this.

There is a difference and women react to it. I get plenty of attention being respectful to women. The difference is coming off clingy and coming off genuine. Maybe you're being TOO respectful?
 
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Again, I was stating a pattern that myself as well as other guys have noticed more often than not. Also, I agree with the part regarding attraction mainly because I understanding and accept the fact that every woman I may be attracted to will not feel the same way about me. But the thing is, there have been women who were attracted to me initially but were later turned off. I did not do anything that would be offputting like simpish acts. However, I exhibited nothing but respectfulness and decency towards them and did not pressure them for sex first. However later down the line down, these women either shot me to the left or worse, tried to come at me like I was some fukkin simp. Hell, many of these particular women even accused me of being gay because I did not push for sex with them when I thought I was showing them respect by getting to know them instead of going for sex. So based on my experiences, my way of showing respectfulness was considered to be negative by these women although women CLAIM that for a man to be considered respectful of them, you should pursue them ONLY for their minds,NOT their bodies. This is taught to young boys by their mothers and other women,therefore internalizing this message and act in this manner believing what they were taught was correct but often proves to be otherwise years later.

There's your problem right there. You're not being aggressive enough and so they put you in the friend zone. What is disrespectful about showing interest in someone you're interested in? Absolutely nothing. Matter of fact, its dishonest to be hiding it.

Its not about respect here, its about your lack of game. You're confusing being respectful with being passive.
 

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There is a difference and women react to it. I get plenty of attention being respectful to women. The difference is coming off clingy and coming off genuine. Maybe you're being TOO respectful?

I get what youre saying about a guy being clingy with women because there are SOME dudes out here who are that way,which is also commonly referred to as cupcaking. Personally, I do NOT cling to/cupcake with ANY female, given my slighty standoffish demeanor. Also, what would be be considered be "too respectful" though? It still baffles me. I have heard the term "too nice" which basically means being a pushover. But if I a guy is not a pushover(too nice) and only shows the most part respectfulness/decency,then his general behavior would be considered respectful, NOT "too nice nor "too respectful".
 

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There's your problem right there. You're not being aggressive enough and so they put you in the friend zone. What is disrespectful about showing interest in someone you're interested in? Absolutely nothing. Matter of fact, its dishonest to be hiding it.

Its not about respect here, its about your lack of game. You're confusing being respectful with being passive.

Pretty much. Respectfulness is asking for what you want, but also being cool with her ability to say no. You are respecting her opinion and her ability to make choices with her body.

Not saying what you want and shelling your desires is nothing more than being a doormat and holding back your emotions/desires to make someone else feel better.

Those are different things. Women ain't stupid. They know that men want sex, when you start acting like you don't, they (a) know you're being fake, (b) take your non-advancements in sincerity and move on.
 

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You learned the secret in the dating game in America: you already have a girl, which makes you more attractive. A Relationship is the gateway to getting more p*ssy.:boss:
Agreed

The preselection theory is absolutely true. Especially with women. Girls love a guy that is adored by/attractive to other woman. The minute they feel like you're a lame/no one wants you, it's a wrap.
 
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I get what youre saying about a guy being clingy with women because there are SOME dudes out here who are that way,which is also commonly referred to as cupcaking. Personally, I do NOT cling to/cupcake with ANY female, given my slighty standoffish demeanor. Also, what would be be considered be "too respectful" though? It still baffles me. I have heard the term "too nice" which basically means being a pushover. But if I a guy is not a pushover(too nice) and only shows the most part respectfulness/decency,then his general behavior would be considered respectful, NOT "too nice nor "too respectful".

Being too nice is doing too much. Buying a woman gifts when you just started dating. Complimenting her too much. Hitting her up every day. Stuff she doesn't want from a guy she isn't completely comfortable around yet. Being too respectful could be something like being too passive. Trying to hide your sexual interest in her. Not making the moves when its time. That type of stuff gets you put in the friend zone.
 

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you can tell most guys who use the nice guy route learned it from Hollywood. In movies an average looking lame guy will end up with a gorgeous supermodel. LOL! There just trying to sell tickets. In the script the average skinny guy beats up a muscular jerk and whisks the supermodel and live happily ever after. Stop trying to live in a movie and find out what works best for you. Lastly i still doesn't matter if your nice or a thug. attraction is attraction. if your attractive enough it doesn't matter what your personality is you will be able to eat out here.
 

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To both DaChampIsHere and rapdonttweet: I have never been one to hide my interest in a woman. But at the same time,based on how I was raised, mentioning anything about having sex when you BARELY KNOW her was considered disrespectful, not the act of showing interest in itself.
 
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