Bernie and the Black Vote

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63% of the black voters in Georgia were over 45. The most reliable Southern black voters are churchgoing women. Sanders is not out there hitting them with speeches about faith and he is not tapped into that church network. That is your answer. Sanders needed black pastors to win, and that's his issue. Crazy as it seems, he would've done well to get Al Sharpton on his side and have him persuade other pastors. Sanders campaign manager (for black people) decided to focus on young black people instead and therein lies his issue. Black women voted at a higher rate than anyone during the last election, and he needed them in the South. He needs a new black outreach leader with religious ties.

This is actually a good thing in my opinion. Focus on the future.

Might not be a winning campaign strategy but it's time that younger black people started to separate themselves from the past and plotting out their own political future not connected to old school politics.
 

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yeah... @Swavy Karl Marx is talking out his ass right there... its one thing to be young...but what your selective interpretation of polls won't tell you is that people who were there knew what happened.

Nader cost Gore 2000.

Dude won tens of thousands of Gore votes.
Without Nader, Florida goes to Al Gore and he wins the presidency... Simple as that.
I still remember Nader supporters justifying their vote by saying that "Bush and Gore are the same thing anyway"
Sounds familiar:patrice:


Ay breh. The excuses for Albert have to stop. The election was stolen from him but he was not a good campaigner at all. We did not have good campaign until Obama in 2007.
 

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the black vote is one of the most "established" voting blocs in the country. and by that i mean it is heavily tied to the democrat establishment for very practical reasons. barring a viable black candidate like obama, a candidate had best work with the black establishment for a few years before trying to cash in. bernie only became a democrat to run for president. his people should have known that they would need a map to victory that didnt run through the south.
Exactly. This is not really about race. A lot of blacks are establishment, nothing racist about that. But it shows why nothing ever, ever changes in America. Well Trump will definately change things and not for the better if you're establishment.
 
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Yeah I've long made the point that most black voters are older women. Which favors Clinton tremendously.

I wonder how much, if at all, sanders' Jewishness affects him here.

My mom and aunt (part of that old black female vote that killed Sanders) voted against him cause he's a Jew. Plus they love Obama and bought Hillary's cynical voting for sanders is voting against Obama ploy.

He never had a chance with them cause they voted on emotion rather than logic.
 

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My mom and aunt (part of that old black female vote that killed Sanders) voted against him cause he's a Jew. Plus they love Obama and bought Hillary's cynical voting for sanders is voting against Obama ploy.

He never had a chance with them cause they voted on emotion rather than logic.

Anti-Semitism :scusthov:
 

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you arent capable of learning anything when you think you already know the answers. this thread is basically the bernie sanders circle jerk thread under a different name, like the rest of the threads on this first page


OP has to be white. Trying to find scientific reasons why black people wont vote for his political god.

When i saw the post you quoted i basically decided not to participate in this thread. This will be my only post in here.
This is a thread about Bernie Sanders and the Black Vote, did you not think it was going to be about him?
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Bruh, I bet Killer Mike didn't now who Bernie Sanders was 6 months ago

Just fukking stop it.

Its too late for him to make any inroads by becoming an overnight populist.

You can't win national elections without doing ground work in non-white communities anymore.

Be happy black people didn't turn GOP and keep it moving.
How would you possibly know who Killer Mike knew 6 months ago?
Bernie Sanders has been running on essentially the exact same platform for decades, he's not an "overnight Populist."
He is doing groundwork in non-White communities, that point was already established.
The GOP is the finally stop before the train derails entirely, if the GOP toned down their racism, and turned up their "all races are equal" "individualism" and "Jesus/God" rhetoric, they could grab onto a massive chunk of the Black religious vote.
 

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How would you possibly know who Killer Mike knew 6 months ago?
Bernie Sanders has been running on essentially the exact same platform for decades, he's not an "overnight Populist."
He is doing groundwork in non-White communities, that point was already established.
The GOP is the finally stop before the train derails entirely, if the GOP toned down their racism, and turned up their "all races are equal" "individualism" and "Jesus/God" rhetoric, they could grab onto a massive chunk of the Black religious vote.
Because 90% of Bernie fans didn't know this guy 6 months ago. Ive known about him because I practically grew up Listening to Democracy Now and alternative media...my dad damn near forced me to.

But it doesn't matter, Bernie's lack of overt success is his attachment to a sleepy state and his lack of familiarity.

Theres no excuses for that. This is the big boy stage.

Jimmy Carter was relatively unknown as well but he made up for it.

You can't keep taking up for candidates on the major stage who don't address developmental issues when it comes time to run.

Bernie was an independent from an unimportant state with no real obligations or responsibilities to rest of the country and if the boys in the barbershop dont know him, he doesn't fukking exist.

Thats his problem.
 

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My mom and aunt (part of that old black female vote that killed Sanders) voted against him cause he's a Jew. Plus they love Obama and bought Hillary's cynical voting for sanders is voting against Obama ploy.

He never had a chance with them cause they voted on emotion rather than logic.

Anti-Semitism :scusthov:

They probably didn't specifically not vote for him because he was Jewish, but because he wasn't a Christian.
 

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The Clintons have all the political machinery working in their favor in SC. Bernie had no such history there and just appeared to these voters with some abstract message about wall street, not a concrete message about how it is impacting their day to day world.

Bernie was missing that cultural and relational connection, the political machinery, the ground game and his abstract(for them) message. Clinton was always going to win there but people don't seem to get how conservative black people are outside of our own struggles. We vote democrat because the republican party in 2016 is full of racist bigots and people who have zero interest in the black struggle, not because of abortion rights or gay rights. Black people in general are not with the young liberal white voters who are keeping Bernie's hopes alive right now. Hillary is a corporatist shill but none of that matters when they think she is for them, understands them and they matter to her outside of electoral politics. It's really simple. If Bernie has sewn those seeds 20-30 years ago and maintained those networks then things would be different. In Hillary they detect a white woman who at least appears to have made an effort over time, not some carpetbagger with big ideas who is only making that appeal now. Is it fair? Are any social networks and legacies fair? Older Black people trust the clintons but didn't know or trust Bernie. They might not have a grasp on the issues that matter in 2016 but they have their gut and some people are just "gut" people.
 
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