Black folks better dump that religious it will get them killed in the near future, one way or the other
Bernie and the Black Vote
- Thread starter Tate
- Start date
Black folks better dump that religious it will get them killed in the near future, one way or the other
Why does Bernie deserve the Black vote?
I don't think anyone has said he derseves it. We just say that his policies would be more beneficial to the black community than Hillary.
Any Bill Maher fan is aware of Bernie for years now... Bill been telling him to run since 2012....
Rarebird77
Pro
Your issue is believing people who are voting for Bernie are obsessed with social issues and not economic ones.
I'm also sadden that you care about Margaret Sanger a eugenicist who wanted to exterminate black people.
Fact Check: Was Planned Parenthood Started To 'Control' The Black Population?
Um, what? I was debating about social issues because thats what most church goers sometimes use as a guide ( See George bush in 2004) in their voting process.
When did I say I cared about Margaret Sanger? I was just saying Hillary is an adamant supporter of hers, which people in the faith community should know about.
Rarebird77
Pro
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
Rarebird77
Pro
Yeah I read it.
They analyzed Margaret Sangers positions and tried to disprove she was a eugenicist and a racist.
Regardless to their attempts they said this very clearly:
"That Sanger was enamored and supported some eugenicists' ideas is certainly true,"
I posted the NPR source because I wanted a source people would trust.
Any black person who can sustain their mind that Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist but also be ok with her has issues to me.
You might be one of those people since you seem to be implying that it's ok that Margaret was a eugenicist but she wasn't the bad kind as the NPR article is implying. . .
Here's a paragraph from the article for others to read:
Did Margaret Sanger believe in eugenics?
Fact Check: Was Planned Parenthood Started To 'Control' The Black Population?
Yes, but not in the way Carson implied.
Eugenics was a discipline, championed by prominent scientists but now widely debunked, that promoted "good" breeding and aimed to prevent "poor" breeding. The idea was that the human race could be bettered through encouraging people with traits like intelligence, hard work, cleanliness (thought to be genetic) to reproduce. Eugenics was taken to its horrifying extreme during the Holocaust, through forced sterilizations and breeding experiments.
In the United States, eugenics intersected with the birth control movement in the 1920s, and Sanger reportedly spoke at eugenics conferences. She also talked about birth control being used to facilitate "the process of weeding out the unfit [and] of preventing the birth of defectives."
Historians seem to disagree on just how involved in the eugenics movement she was. Some contend her involvement was for political reasons — to win support for birth control.
In reading her papers, it is clear Sanger had bought into the movement. She once wrote that "consequences of breeding from stock lacking human vitality always will give us social problems and perpetuate institutions of charity and crime."
"That Sanger was enamored and supported some eugenicists' ideas is certainly true," said Susan Reverby, a health care historian and professor at Wellesley College. But, Reverby added, Sanger's main argument was not eugenics — it was that "Sanger thought people should have the children they wanted."
It was a radical idea for the time.
Sanger wrote about this mission herself in 1921: "The almost universal demand for practical education in Birth Control is one of the most hopeful signs that the masses themselves today possess the divine spark of regeneration."
Was Sanger "not particularly enamored with black people"?
Sanger's birth control movement did have support in black neighborhoods, beginning in the '20s when there were leagues in Harlem started by African-Americans. Sanger also worked closely with NAACP founder W.E.B. DuBois on a "Negro Project," which she viewed as a way to get safe contraception to African-Americans.
In 1946, Sanger wrote about the importance of giving "Negro" parents a choice in how many children they would have.
"The Negro race has reached a place in its history when every possible effort should be made to have every Negro child count as a valuable contribution to the future of America," she wrote. "Negro parents, like all parents, must create the next generation from strength, not from weakness; from health, not from despair."
Her attitude toward African-Americans can certainly be viewed as paternalistic, but there is no evidence she subscribed to the more racist ideas of the time or that she coerced black women into using birth control. In fact, for her time, as the Washington Post noted, "she would likely be considered to have advanced views on race relations."
Yea, dude beasted on this. Only thing is, he put in the nicest way possible, that black people are front runners. Which makes sense. The idea that we can't afford to gamble is real.
Yeah...had his punk ass not p*ssy-footed around for months while Hilary was beasting on the ground work
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
I personally don't understand this line of thinking (and I'm not even applying this argument to the Democratic primary, because I think that is a ridiculous exaggeration).
When you have little or nothing to lose, I feel it makes sense to take "risks." To quote El Chapo, "In this life, he who risks nothing cannot win."
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
But no bammer, black people more than any other group paid the real world cost of the Clinton Administration in the 90s as well
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
Is it b/c Catholics tend to be more educated?