Bernie and the Black Vote

[No1]

Yes.

Because she's one of the most progressive members. Theres only a handful of people in congress that share her views and if she leaves for the White House, she has no support to enact her legislation or vision.

It seems that people seem to forget what Congress is, and what congressional members do.

The desire to push people to the white house or in the cabinet just removes viable politicians to actually affect change.





Thats why they'd rather push Rand Paul and the other 1 or 2 libertarians to the WH instead of building up a legislative coalition to enact their worldview.



and thats why the Tea party has a better chance of winning the WH than any other GOP member.

This dumbass said he'd rather send Rand Paul to the White House like the President does not appoint cabinet members, negotiate foreign treaties, and have veto power . Did you forget what Reagan did the the Civil Rights DIvision of the DOJ when he was in power and then what Bush did? All this while having a Democratic Congress? Man go take several seats.

Just by being President you have enormous clout. As if Obama did not have his team design the stimulus, auto bail out, and give the greenlight on who would write the ACA. Man stop. Warren as President = a bunch of wall street hawks in appointment positions. In Congress all she is doing is popping off, but she's not in the majority of the party. To be President you probably campaigned for people, and did a bunch of other favors. They will owe you favors and do shyt on some quid pro quo. You have more to give people than any other politician.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Were going to be left behind soon enough, the Hispanic population will soon eclipse s by far and once its them and the white folks at the top its a wrap.



Soon enough they wont even be pandering for us anymore

Hispanics are already trending towards the GOP more and more. Most immigrant and religious groups do by virtue of their entrepreneurship mentalities and freedom mentalities...due to them leaving places that were usually not as forgiving and open.

I don't understand this notion people keep forgetting of propelling their ONLY legislator they like into higher or executive office...then they wonder why shyt never gets done on the legislative side.

Ya'll had Barney Frank all that time in office...and his name is all over bills. That dude got a fair amount of shyt done...but Warren talking all this shyt and has done what...A consumer credit bureau? Thats it?

What's Bernie done? Wheres his proposed legislation?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dumbass said he'd rather send Rand Paul to the White House like the President does not appoint cabinet members, negotiate foreign treaties, and have veto power . Did you forget what Reagan did the the Civil Rights DIvision of the DOJ when he was in power and then what Bush did? All this while having a Democratic Congress? Man go take several seats.

Just by being President you have enormous clout. As if Obama did not have his team design the stimulus, auto bail out, and give the greenlight on who would write the ACA. Man stop. Warren as President = a bunch of wall street hawks in appointment positions. In Congress all she is doing is popping off, but she's not in the majority of the party. To be President you probably campaigned for people, and did a bunch of other favors. They will owe you favors and do shyt on some quid pro quo. You have more to give people than any other politician.

Your comprehension is piss poor. I didn't/don't support the Paul family. I said libertarians do...and thats why they fail. Gary Johnson and Jesse Ventura would rather talk shyt about the WH instead of building a legislative body to shift their chances of maintaining support should they, or their surrogates win.

Warren running for WH is no different than Jill Stein's boring ass.

Reagan had legislative support of his world view. There was no shortage of congresspeople who shared his views.

Theres ONE Elizabeth Warren.

Theres ONE Bernie Sanders.

Thats it. THATS the point.

You're proving my point about Reagan...and thats why Warren can't be propelled to higher office. She has no legislative equals to help her.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm honestly confused. So senator Obama had more political capital than president Obama?

Obama is not the same as Warren or Bernie.

Warren and Bernie are so far left, they have no legislative equals.

They would get in office and no one in the Dems would even support them. Thats the problem.

They're so far left, that removing them out of Congress kills the progressive Leftist movement.

 

[Tate]

Do you?

It seems that you'd rather take the only female senator with any pull at all and put her in the white house instead of forcing her to put her weight behind more effective legislation.

Its complete stupidity

And yet people wonder why "the establishment" always wins...its because the Progressive Left has no long game or vision. They remove all of their legit candidates and put them in executive positions, and not legislative ones.

Who has the progressive left put in an executive position? Obama?

There's a lot that a president is able to do out side of legislating. Even focusing just on legislating, the president has much more influence(political capital) within their party than any senator. And they just won a popular election, they have a mandate both without and within their party.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who has the progressive left put in an executive position? Obama?

There's a lot that a president is able to do out side of legislating. Even focusing just on legislating, the president has much more influence(political capital) within their party than any senator. And they just won a popular election, they have a mandate both without and within their party.

The progressive left hasn't really put anyone up for POTUS that has had legitimate support from Democrats. Bernie tried and he's on his own...which is a function of his inability to garner enough stability in Congress.

the POTUS has limited capital when it comes to ultimately compromise. They may have more visibility, but visibility doesn't determine the law or the nature of the legislation itself.

You're overstepping the realms of this "mandate"

Bernie wining the WH would put him at odds with the Dems as it stands

Remember...Bernie was an independent until like 9 months ago



again, its not realistic to keep pushing your dream politicians into the White House. This top-down management of the government does not create better outcomes nor does it enact more lasting changes. Creating core governments in Congress enables more stability and longer outputs.

 

[Tate]

The progressive left hasn't really put anyone up for POTUS that has had legitimate support from Democrats. Bernie tried and he's on his own...which is a function of his inability to garner enough stability in Congress.

So this isn't an actual trend it just relates to sanders, who's spent 30 years in congress already?

the POTUS has limited capital when it comes to ultimately compromise.

The POTUS has the ultimate leverage of veto bud. A senator is one vote, a president can invalidate everything up to a 2/3s majority

You're overstepping the realms of this "mandate"

A senator has no mandate at all

Don't think arguing a senator is more powerful than the president is gonna be a winner here nap

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Bernie has got the white vote on lock why should he care about minorities? All of Sanders political life has been built on a policy of for white voters, elected by white voters.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So this isn't an actual trend it just relates to sanders, who's spent 30 years in congress already?



The POTUS has the ultimate leverage of veto bud. A senator is one vote, a president can invalidate everything up to a 2/3s majority



A senator has no mandate at all

Don't think arguing a senator is more powerful than the president is gonna be a winner here nap

It relates to Bernie who has no liberal equal in congress. Yes.

 

[Tate]

It relates to Bernie who has no liberal equal in congress. Yes.

Warren, sherrod brown are pretty similar policy wise bud.

Regardless sanders goal is to demonstrate the popularity of progressive policy in order encourage a shift left politically. He agrees with you that more legislative support is needed. He just has a preferred strategy that isn't yours.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

The religion-hating crowd on here being type quiet when it comes to the Black church and its reactionary political effects on the community.

What's understood ain't got to be explained

 

[JahFocus CS]

What's understood ain't got to be explained

More like, when religion reinforces reactionary politics, the reactionaries who happen to be atheists have no issue with religion.

 

[88m3]

More like, when religion reinforces reactionary politics, the reactionaries who happen to be atheists have no issue with religion.

You can't be serious man....

 

[Swaggatron]

I'm honestly confused. So senator Obama had more political capital than president Obama?

Breh...put Nappy on ignore...you are wasting your energy and intellect on this fool/troll...He is not going to learn anything no matter how much logic and facts you present him with

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Warren, sherrod brown are pretty similar policy wise bud.

Regardless sanders goal is to demonstrate the popularity of progressive policy in order encourage a shift left politically. He agrees with you that more legislative support is needed. He just has a preferred strategy that isn't yours.

2 senators.

Wow.

Big support there



Again, Warren never should seek higher office until she has:

1. Way more legislative support
2. Way more wins on the board. She has no serious marks under her belt

She's precisely what should be in Congress making changes on behalf of Americans...and now you want to move her out of that position...why? So you can bytch that you're missing another Elizabeth Warren?

I remember before she even GOT elected...dudes wanted her to run...now she's in, and now ya'll want to just move her up.

Let her accomplish some things and change some things first.