Bernie Stans....do ya'll seriously think he'll win the general?

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hillary will do better with blacks than Sanders, especially in battleground states. And she'll definitely do better with white women than Obama did in 2012 (he lost them 56-41 percent to Romney).

they remind me so much of Ron Paul supporters in 2008... They were all over the internet

Its like that dude didn't even exist

 

[No1]

I argue that the current contract isn't as bad as "the left" stakes these doom and gloom headlines on.

This shyt was "riveting" when I was in my early 20's as a college student.

Now? It's just tiring to see the same hyperventilation get play the more I understand how the world works, how groups of people make decisions, and why things evolve the way they do.

I'm not condoning the state of the world, nor am I evaluating whether or not you are valid in reaching your conclusions...but I will assert that things are not nearly as accurate as they're portrayed to be by the left, nor as dire.

Things do not seem dire to you because you are not struggling. The majority of American people have less than 1,000 dollars in their bank accounts.

@superunknown23 Ron Paul stans only existed on the internet. We just saw Sanders damn near win the first two primaries. He won the second one in a blowout. He already has more electoral votes than Ron Paul ever had. Ron Paul was never a serious contender. He was a fundraising warrior and nothing else.

 

[FaTaL]

That email fiasco is legit IMO...its a serious breach of security. I can explain why if you don't already know...

go ahead

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Things do not seem dire to you because you are not struggling. The majority of American people have less than 1,000 dollars in their bank accounts.

And?

What are the ranks of savings around the world per capita?

I personally, and I can't directly prove this without doing more research SERIOUSLY think its because we have such a consumerist society that encourages spending on frivolous shyt.

We have tons of entertainment and luxury opportunities that tap into those funds compared to other countries.

I don't ignore the costs of spending on things that other countries "get for free" or the relative tax rates faced by other developed countries either.

 

[Wild self]

That's a flawed argument. Bernie ain't gonna end freedom of speech.

 

[Wild self]

They're not.

Anyone who says this has no concept of the average man on the street.

That "liberal bubble" is so self-defeating

I see it all the time. Y'all swear ya'll know better than the rest of the world and the ivory tower of higher education tries to reinforce that the rest of the world agrees with you and if they don't, that they "should"

nah man...liberal ideas are NOT popular across the board. Especially economically.

The world has seen the most liberal societies STRUGGINGL in the last 5 year ys.

So the most conservative governmentso are thriving, too?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

go ahead

Remember Guccifer?

The Romanian hacker?

He was arrested in 2014.

He was the one who hacked GWBs (and Colin Powell's) emails and leaked those pics of him doing those shytty paintings.

He also hacked Sid Blumenthal, a former clinton aide, and current hillary insider.

Heres the problem.

Blumenthal hasn't worked officially for the US Govt since POTUS Clinton left the WH.

Blumenthal has been, as revealed through the emails, in communication with clinton's classified server emails all this time sharing information and insights.

Guccifer bragged about reading H. Clinton's emails as well. Its not known if he had access to HRC's emails, but via Blumenthal is confirmed.

HRC made several references to the stability of Benghazi's stability in the run up to its attack via her email leaks, many of which included Blumenthal's communication.

Any intelligence agency worth its weight in gold would have accessed those emails or gathered that access that Guccifer bragged about. They're not stupid. Don't be naive in expecting them to overlook this or ignore Guccifer's bragging. So now we have a potential in-road to Hillary's emails via foreign intel agencies.

I made several posts about this in this thread:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hiliary-and-her-damn-emails.395832/

And more specifically this one if you want a nice overview:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/17509358/






Those emails are a MASSIVE intelligence failure.

 

[FAH1223]

Couldn't the same be said for Hillary?

No. Hilary will have black voters at around 85% and if they turn out, she will win

Hell, she is already starting off with 247 electoral votes and only needs to win 23 more.

Plus, she'll have Obama campaigning for her during the summer/fall, she has a lot of his 2012 people working for her, and his Super PAC is donating a lot of money.

Bernie would need to amass a huge ground game to get those blacks and latinos out to vote and he'd need Obama's help too.

 

[Wild self]

"free stuff"

The working class produces all the wealth of society, it is time workers come together to demand what they deserve instead of being isolated, struggling automatons that the Right wants.

People love being abused by the 1%

 

[Jello Biafra]

No. Hilary will have black voters at around 85% and if they turn out, she will win

Hell, she is already starting off with 247 electoral votes and only needs to win 23 more.

Plus, she'll have Obama campaigning for her during the summer/fall, she has a lot of his 2012 people working for her, and his Super PAC is donating a lot of money.

Bernie would need to amass a huge ground game to get those blacks and latinos out to vote and he'd need Obama's help too.

Thats the other thing people are ignoring and the reason why I have never had much confidence in Bernie winning the primary.
Hillary has the Democratic Party behind her and that includes both Obamas and probably Joe Biden before too long...Bernie is an interloper and there is no way the DNC will allow a guy who spent the majority of his career in politics shytting on Dems to be their candidate. Hillary has all of the Super-Delegates already locked up and I think a lot of Bernie supporters have allowed the highs of Iowa and NH to fool them into thinking that Bernie has this thing sewn up.
Now I will freely admit I was wrong if Hillary doesn't crush him in South Carolina and then win Nevada but I doubt I will have to eat my words.

 

[joeychizzle]

shyt I didn't know Obama's middle name was Hussein.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

People love being abused by the 1%

"The 1%" is a convenient scapegoat.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Thats the other thing people are ignoring and the reason why I have never had much confidence in Bernie winning the primary.
Hillary has the Democratic Party behind her and that includes both Obamas and probably Joe Biden before too long...Bernie is an interloper and there is no way the DNC will allow a guy who spent the majority of his career in politics shytting on Dems to be their candidate. Hillary has all of the Super-Delegates already locked up and I think a lot of Bernie supporters have allowed the highs of Iowa and NH to fool them into thinking that Bernie has this thing sewn up.
Now I will freely admit I was wrong if Hillary doesn't crush him in South Carolina and then win Nevada but I doubt I will have to eat my words.

Also.

Bernie is not a registered Democrat.

On some level, we must acknowledge that on paper, that's problematic for PARTY POLITICS

 

[Swagnificent]

Hillary will do better with blacks than Sanders, especially in battleground states. And she'll definitely do better with white women than Obama did in 2012 (he lost them 56-41 percent to Romney).

they remind me so much of Ron Paul supporters in 2008... They were all over the internet

Now I know you white crakkka boy. No black person says "blacks." We call ourselves black folks or black people never "blacks." Fukk outta here.

Now onto your retarded points:

(1) How do you know Hillary will do better with black folks? She's doing better now, but there is no evidence black folks won't support Sanders in November. This reminds me of 08 when idiots said Latinos wouldn't support Obama in the general cause they voted for Hillary in the primaries. Black folks and Latinos will support whoever is the democratic nominee. The only people voting now who might show up in November for whomever is the nominee is young folks. There is a good chance they just stay home if Hillary is the nominee.

(2) You can't compare Sanders to Paul because Paul never won a primary or even came close to it. He was always a fringe candidate. Sanders has already won New Hampshire and was a few votes from winning Iowa. He's way more legitimate than Paul. Plus he's raised way more money.

 

[Swagnificent]

Bernie doesn't have the voting coalition that Obama was able to put together. That is why all the comparisons of Sanders to Obama in 08 are silly because they are vastly different. Obama got out a record number of black voters and it is just as likely that a good chunk of them will just stay home instead of voting for Bernie. And he could conceivably lose the Latino and Asian vote to the GOP candidate.
Obama had a more diverse voter base and was able to get out more people (total) to actually vote at this point in the primary than Bernie has. He couldn't even get more people to come out and vote for him in NH than the turnout was for the Dem primary in NH in 08. Same thing with the Iowa caucus. So how exactly is this revolution that Bernie and his supporters are calling for going to happen when he can't even increase the enthusiasm numbers from the last contested Dem primary especially in the early states where everything lined up in his favor demographically?

Remember when they said Latinos and working class whites wouldn't vote for Obama in the general cause Hillary has them?

With the racist rhetoric coming from the right, black folks and Latinos will vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. You are right that he might not get the unprecedented black turnout that Obama got, but I believe he makes that up with poor whites who were too racist to vote for Obama but might support Sanders. He's already killing Hillary among this group in the primaries. Also he's having alot of independents supporting him.


If Sanders wins the democratic nomination he'll be the president. The GOP has turned off a majority of Americans.