Best Card in the Universe BETERBIEV Vs BIVOL 2 Feb 22 2025!

[reservoirdogs]

It's stunning how many people claim to be fans of this sport and don't understand the business.

Shakur did 5,000 fans against Edwin De Los Santos and I was ONE of those fans.

Tank did nearly 14K with Frank Martin at the MGM and nukkas are in this thread talking about Tank is ducking Shakur, no that nikka just don't bring shyt to the table to actually make money which is what all this shyt is about.

Do I want to see the best fights and the best fighting the best, yes but it ain't gonna happen if everyone doesn't do their part to make these fights worth it.

Keyshawn is gonna get that Tank fight before Shakur because Shakur may never truly break through to stardom.

Also while everyone is talking about Tank ducking, William Zepeda is literally Shakur's mandatory for the WBC and doesn't want to fight him lol

The Saudis throwing around money like it’s just a board game, it seems like they are less interested in the fights being profitable than your average boxing stakeholder. Ofc it’s because their #1 goal is to make their repressive country’s image better through multiple big entertainment projects, especially sports but that’s another discussion.

Point is the amount of $ they are throwing around changed the game and made promoters forget about their petty beefs and a lot of these fighters started to take fights they haven’t before. They also work with the likes of Canelo and AJ so it appears like even the richest fighters are not out of their league.

Considering this if Tank gets the call to fight Shakur on one of these cards and he turns it down he will look funny in the light.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

He is a good boxer but he is not great, if he knew how to double and triple on the jab, turn his man, and go to the sides of his body he would distance himself from Artur. He has the physical skills but not master technique. Technique wise he is down the list when compared to other p4p bests today. All the things you mentioned were physical skills which he isn’t missing any of those things.

Artur is almost same way. Has all the physicals but he is basically a stalker who although a good boxer he can’t really cut the ring off against elite movement and his bodywork is lacking in that area as well.

Fight was like a dumbed down Chavez vs Whitaker. Stylistically slightly looked like Mayweather vs Corrales. As I said though, there were clear differences in those fights and all of those guys were more skilled. The things that Bivol and Beterbiev bring to the ring and the things they are lacking make for the most even of matchup. I give Bivol the very slight edge but he’ll if they were the same age a would give Artur the edge. Whether they were both 34 or 40.

Beterbiev cant cut off the ring? Wtf?

Bivol doesn't know how to double or triple his jab? Wtf?

Looked like Mayweather vs Corraled? WTF?!

I respectfully disagree with this whole post.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Who’s Lamont Roach? Can a fighter with 68k followers on IG ever sell big business?

He's an IN HOUSE PBC fighter.

They don't have to pay him much or split with another promo company.

Are yall really this dense? If Shakur or Keyshawn was with PBC, those fights would happen.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

The Saudis throwing around money like it’s just a board game, it seems like they are less interested in the fights being profitable than your average boxing stakeholder. Ofc it’s because their #1 goal is to make their repressive country’s image better through multiple big entertainment projects, especially sports but that’s another discussion.

Point is the amount of $ they are throwing around changed the game and made promoters forget about their petty beefs and a lot of these fighters started to take fights they haven’t before. They also work with the likes of Canelo and AJ so it appears like even the richest fighters are not out of their league.

Considering this if Tank gets the call to fight Shakur on one of these cards and he turns it down he will look funny in the light.

This is true but it took a lot of negotiation for Canelo to get on board, even to the point where Canelo used Jake Paul as a negotiation tactic.

We'll see what happens with Tank and David Benavidez who still are super loyal to Al Haymon.

 

[Deafheaven]

He's an IN HOUSE PBC fighter.

They don't have to pay him much or split with another promo company.

Are yall really this dense? If Shakur or Keyshawn was with PBC, those fights would happen.

happen when though? unless they have some explicit language of "tank must fight you in his next fight" then the run around will happen.

And why would anyone want to make that contract when they can go elsewhere and have more mobility AND potential saudi bags?

 

[BaRRyG]

Nah he fights totally different, I've seen about 5-6 fights from him. He dominates with that jab, and throws alot more combinations




This is the Hamzah I know

His opponent did not move his head at all. He just stood there. Kinda easy work.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

Bivols performances since have put that performance from Canelo in perspective.
Canelo held his own. Did his thing. But he had zero chance.

It's a slightly underrated performance from Canelo. Bivol had flurries that looked good, but weren't actually getting through clean.

Bivol was in 3rd gear the whole fight, didn't need to break sweat at all

 

[reservoirdogs]

This is true but it took a lot of negotiation for Canelo to get on board, even to the point where Canelo used Jake Paul as a negotiation tactic.

We'll see what happens with Tank and David Benavidez who still are super loyal to Al Haymon.

They don’t have to leave Haymon though.

All the fighters who appeared on these cards still have their promoters and managers. There were some Haymon fighters appearing on these cards too.

 

[dh86]

He's an IN HOUSE PBC fighter.

They don't have to pay him much or split with another promo company.

Are yall really this dense? If Shakur or Keyshawn was with PBC, those fights would happen.

Errol Spence overruled Haymon and talked to Crawford man to man and closed the deal. Gervonta is in charge. You can’t talk business or ppv buys and defend a fight against a nobody.

 

[Black_Jesus]

They don’t have to leave Haymon though.

All the fighters who appeared on these cards still have their promoters and managers. There were some Haymon fighters appearing on these cards too.

Exactly.. these nikkas minds is perminately stuck in a 2013 HBO/Showtime cold war... the argument that you cant fight Haymon fighters unless you're signed to Haymon or Haymon fighters cant fight on other networks had been debunked and proven false again and again and again

 

[The Ruler 09]

 

[Lurking Class Hero]

I was really impressed by Ortiz's defence. I thought Madrimov was gonna cook him. I think I overrated his ability to fight on the backfoot, and underrated Ortiz's chin.That said, I still want to rewatch and rescore the fight muted.

 

[Liu Kang]

I don't hate Beterbiev whatsoever, I actually like him as a fighter

But Bivol is the first person I have ever seen to make Beterbiev confused in the ring, and makes his rhythm so thrown off
Usually with other fighters, Beterbiev is always in control, and has that "only a matter of time" energy that makes him so dominant in the ring. It was evident that Beterbiev could not handle the footwork and hand speed of Bivol

Give respect to Bivol as one of the greatest fighters of all time

He's a bit crude as a fighter in the sense that what he does is simple but he is very effective because of his sheer relentlessness and power. He doesn't feint much if not at all, his rhythm is constant and he fights on the front foot only.

Like in the first fight, he hit a lot of arm and glove but he doesn't care because at some point, his opponent stars to slow down, their defense start to break, then the punches start landing flush. Gvozdyk was doing ok until the accumulation was too much and then it was a wrap.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[TDUBB]

Bivol looks like an Asian guy that got beat up and robbed in a liquor store… “hurry up and buy!”