But you know what? Had They gave it to Bivol the first time I feel that they would have given to Beterbiev this time. From the moment first fight was announced they were already eyeing a trilogy.
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But you know what? Had They gave it to Bivol the first time I feel that they would have given to Beterbiev this time. From the moment first fight was announced they were already eyeing a trilogy.
UpAndComing
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Nah he fights totally different, I've seen about 5-6 fights from him. He dominates with that jab, and throws alot more combinations
This is the Hamzah I know
UpAndComing
Veteran
Nope, there's no "give" them a decision. They had zero foresight that this would be a Trilogy. These are the same people who thought Beterbiev would KO Bivol under 6 rounds. Look at all the stuff the pundits and current Boxers were saying before the 1st fight. Couldn't look stupid by giving Bivol a win the 1st time
Trilogy over, on to the next lol
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Aint no fighter established signing with PBC and Haymon anymore.. Its over... That platform is straight cooked.. Any PBC fighter thats not a duck like Tank has made the move to position themselves for better fights... better opportunities.. better pay... and has done so with no issue...
PBC offered a one fight deal, he could of beat tank and moved on to "better opportunities" like Joe cordina.
You all don't realize how idiotic you sound
Black_Jesus
Superstar
the jig is up buddy.. If you wanna be stuck on stupid STILL believing what someone who failed to secure a fight for a dying company trying to save face and lie cause they couldn't secure a fighter, has to say then the only idiot here is you.. You asked
I posted that.. you had no rebuttal....
Meanwhile Tank turned down $20m guaranteed for Haney
and was the only so called p4p fighter (outside of Inoue cause Inoue has his own market in Japan) who DUCKED the Ring convention and wants nothing to do with Riyad, the shiek, or any of the top fighters around his division where all the money is.. all the belts are.. all his contemporaries around his division are ... all cause he scared he wont get a decision cause he p*ssy now talking about retirement
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my thoughts
i get turki likes to see saudi fighters on his card and give them shine but truthfully they shouldn't even be on TV prelims never mind the main card...they should be dark matches so they can develop away from the scrutiny of the worldwide audience...straight up
now the main fights
if you had told me that buatsi vs smith would the fight of the night on this shyt, i would have told you nikka please
. ..i thought buatsi spoiled on the vine and i never forgave callum for his canelo performance...in hindsight i shouldn't be surprised what happened in that fight since its in line to what i say about 175. its a division with high level punchers and the only division i cut some slack where the top fighters are not as active. why? because when top fighters meet at 175 they put themselves through the gotdamn wringer. a war with mean ebb and flow. both guys fought and above their usual performances...both guys reportedly had to go to the hospital afterwards...if you've seen callum's face in a post fight interview in the back you would know why. FOTY candidate. oh yeah whoever the judge that scored it 119-110 needs to get his monkey ass up outta there 
zhang vs kabayel - this fight showed the best and worse of both guys in 6 entertaining rounds. the best - kabayel's body and combination punching - a rarity for today's heavies and zhang's power; the worst - kabayel's throwing caution to the wind with his defense and zhang's conditioning. but the boogieman killer kabayel scored a spectacular stoppage over zhang with both guys going down in this fight. even in zhang's previous losses and draw, he always managed to drop someone at least once and the fights were hard fights. zhang has boulders in his fists and a big ass fukking head which makes it hard to hurt him upstairs...but downstairs different story...kabayel lit up zhang with combinations and body shots that had dude labored early...zhang's conditioning issues bit him in the ass..but he nearly rescued himself by dropping kabayel hard in round 5...kabayel responded by going back to work on the body and dropping zhang for the count. hell of a HW scrap..kabayel is definitely knocking on the door for a title shot.
ortiz vs madrimov...thought it would have been the FOTY candidate but unfortunately it was not. it was a good fight. a chessmatch of a fight. ortiz had to really bite down and grind out a win because madrimov did not make it easy for him. madrimov also did not make it easy on himself either. madrimov is blessed with power and footwork thats not really seen at his weight. however while the footwork gave ortiz fits, he was not throwing enough to keep ortiz from walking him down. even more frustrating since madrimov's punches lumped up ortiz pretty early but he did not up his offense until late in the fight where he started to run out of steam from the movement and ortiz's body shots took hold..credit to ortiz for not discouraged from his gameplan from the early attacks from madrimov to wear him down like he did. both guys didn't lose anything in this fight. ortiz is still in line for big fights and madrimov is still a problem at 154
adames vs sheeraz - not going to mince words i was fully disgusted at everything that went down in this fight. this was the fight i was sure was going to end in a sheeraz KO. it was the only result that my mind could comprehend. ive never been a believer in adames since he lost that bloody war to patrick teixeira. ive looked at him sideways since and he never gave me a reason to change my opinion of him afterwards. sheeraz on the other hand had been putting in pretty stellar stoppages particular the one on ammo was brutal. he was called the arabic tommy hearns, this fight he was the arabic andre dirrell
...broken hand, lights were too bright, inexperienced..whatever you want to describe he did not fight like he wanted to be champion. .wasted movement and not throwing anything of substance outside of a jab..adames didn't really do anything special either. his head and upper body movement and explosiveness kept sheeraz guns in the holster so to speak..low output and all...all the meaningful shots were from adames...adames i thought won the fight pretty clear..the score that was for adames was accurate...there was no 115-113 sheeraz or draw in this fight...on top of that turki was seen going to sheeraz corner letting them know the gotdamn scores at one point...this was after him and warren were shytting bricks at what was happening...160 needed this fight to be something..instead its just another DUD in the division..i refuse to believe that patrick teixeira is the only guy that can beat carlos adames 
..i mean seriously 
stevenson-padley - padley got gifted a fight due to his ranking and upset on a previous riyadh season card after schofield dropped due to issues i dont care to rehash. did not mind padley getting the shot, he was higher ranked than schofield elsewhere. but nothing to really say. shakur patiently broke down a game padley stopping him with body shot in round 9. it was also funny that padley said shakur had no power which i didnt believe considering shakur snapped his head and dropped him with multiple body shots. more concerning though was reportedly shakur might have injured his hand again. someone this young having these hand issues as he is going up in weight. i can see change his style up like floyd did to protect his hands more if this continues. that may work against him with regards to his draw. nice to see he went back to arguing cats on twitter though lol
parker-bakole - was supposed to be a title shot for dubois ibf title but he had to pull out due to sickness 2 days before the fight (this might have saved schofield from blackballed, if you know you know)..so bakole who is top ranked said he would fill in. bakole's KO over jared anderson was still buzzing plus he hadn't been active since that win. so it was a great fight to replace. the problem. bakole was not in the gym like that since august. he was easily well over 300 pounds. 40 something pounds more than parker who also weighed in at a career heaviest. For the 2 rounds it lasted, there were def somethings you can take from it. bakole hurt parker numerous times with his punches and had him looking uncomfortable. did not expect a parker right hand to actually put down bakole like that. i do think that the ref prematurely stopped it. bakole got to his feet. give him a chance to fight back. it made the ending too anti climactic. but the fact parker was willing to take on a guy like that on short notice..it takes balls of steel. he def has them. this late run he's been on has been great. if he does get his title shot and beats dubois, we will def have to reevaluate where he ranks in this HW generation with the known 3. bakole i hope does get back to the shape he used to be since his manager said this wont affect his fight with efe ajagba in may.
beterbiev-bivol 2 - the fact that this turned around so quickly is awesome. and like i mentioned 175 is one those divisions where 1 fight can get you some months of downtime to heal up. this time bivol tweaked his game and became more offensive which was an issue in the first fight. the optics this time saw bivol get off first and kept up a consistent offense with his lateral movement. beterbiev's conditioning has never been an issue in his fights but he def had a much harder time trying to hit bivol cleanly to the body or head outside of a jab and he did noticeably slow down after 7. before that it looked like beterbiev was going to eventually break down bivol..bivol was looking a little shaky baby going to back to his corner at times. in the last rounds beterbiev never really had that type of success save for moments where bivol's back would linger too long on the ropes or corner. beterbiev did however win that final round and had bivol leaking but bivol needed to be busted up just few rounds earlier. salute to bivol for beating beterbiev and righting his wrong to become undisputed at 175....great win. it was a hard fight but beterbiev did not show really good sportmanship afterwards lol...he left that ring asap. it does seem that they are angling for a trilogy which i dont mind but gotdammit fight david benavidez first...he was right there watching everything. there's enough time to get off 2 fights this calendar year
overall i enjoyed the ppv..no concerts no real delays..production was good and moved things along..still dont think turki should be on the mic. he does and says too much weird shyt...well worth the money i put in on it. shoutouts to @Mr. Leonidas..i watched with him and his ppls... dude even dressed in a thobe to get into the whole riyadh season theme lol and the middle eastern food hit
i get turki likes to see saudi fighters on his card and give them shine but truthfully they shouldn't even be on TV prelims never mind the main card...they should be dark matches so they can develop away from the scrutiny of the worldwide audience...straight up
now the main fights
if you had told me that buatsi vs smith would the fight of the night on this shyt, i would have told you nikka please
. ..i thought buatsi spoiled on the vine and i never forgave callum for his canelo performance...in hindsight i shouldn't be surprised what happened in that fight since its in line to what i say about 175. its a division with high level punchers and the only division i cut some slack where the top fighters are not as active. why? because when top fighters meet at 175 they put themselves through the gotdamn wringer. a war with mean ebb and flow. both guys fought and above their usual performances...both guys reportedly had to go to the hospital afterwards...if you've seen callum's face in a post fight interview in the back you would know why. FOTY candidate. oh yeah whoever the judge that scored it 119-110 needs to get his monkey ass up outta there zhang vs kabayel - this fight showed the best and worse of both guys in 6 entertaining rounds. the best - kabayel's body and combination punching - a rarity for today's heavies and zhang's power; the worst - kabayel's throwing caution to the wind with his defense and zhang's conditioning. but the boogieman killer kabayel scored a spectacular stoppage over zhang with both guys going down in this fight. even in zhang's previous losses and draw, he always managed to drop someone at least once and the fights were hard fights. zhang has boulders in his fists and a big ass fukking head which makes it hard to hurt him upstairs...but downstairs different story...kabayel lit up zhang with combinations and body shots that had dude labored early...zhang's conditioning issues bit him in the ass..but he nearly rescued himself by dropping kabayel hard in round 5...kabayel responded by going back to work on the body and dropping zhang for the count. hell of a HW scrap..kabayel is definitely knocking on the door for a title shot.
ortiz vs madrimov...thought it would have been the FOTY candidate but unfortunately it was not. it was a good fight. a chessmatch of a fight. ortiz had to really bite down and grind out a win because madrimov did not make it easy for him. madrimov also did not make it easy on himself either. madrimov is blessed with power and footwork thats not really seen at his weight. however while the footwork gave ortiz fits, he was not throwing enough to keep ortiz from walking him down. even more frustrating since madrimov's punches lumped up ortiz pretty early but he did not up his offense until late in the fight where he started to run out of steam from the movement and ortiz's body shots took hold..credit to ortiz for not discouraged from his gameplan from the early attacks from madrimov to wear him down like he did. both guys didn't lose anything in this fight. ortiz is still in line for big fights and madrimov is still a problem at 154
adames vs sheeraz - not going to mince words i was fully disgusted at everything that went down in this fight. this was the fight i was sure was going to end in a sheeraz KO. it was the only result that my mind could comprehend. ive never been a believer in adames since he lost that bloody war to patrick teixeira. ive looked at him sideways since and he never gave me a reason to change my opinion of him afterwards. sheeraz on the other hand had been putting in pretty stellar stoppages particular the one on ammo was brutal. he was called the arabic tommy hearns, this fight he was the arabic andre dirrell
...broken hand, lights were too bright, inexperienced..whatever you want to describe he did not fight like he wanted to be champion. .wasted movement and not throwing anything of substance outside of a jab..adames didn't really do anything special either. his head and upper body movement and explosiveness kept sheeraz guns in the holster so to speak..low output and all...all the meaningful shots were from adames...adames i thought won the fight pretty clear..the score that was for adames was accurate...there was no 115-113 sheeraz or draw in this fight...on top of that turki was seen going to sheeraz corner letting them know the gotdamn scores at one point...this was after him and warren were shytting bricks at what was happening...160 needed this fight to be something..instead its just another DUD in the division..i refuse to believe that patrick teixeira is the only guy that can beat carlos adames ..i mean seriously stevenson-padley - padley got gifted a fight due to his ranking and upset on a previous riyadh season card after schofield dropped due to issues i dont care to rehash. did not mind padley getting the shot, he was higher ranked than schofield elsewhere. but nothing to really say. shakur patiently broke down a game padley stopping him with body shot in round 9. it was also funny that padley said shakur had no power which i didnt believe considering shakur snapped his head and dropped him with multiple body shots. more concerning though was reportedly shakur might have injured his hand again. someone this young having these hand issues as he is going up in weight. i can see change his style up like floyd did to protect his hands more if this continues. that may work against him with regards to his draw. nice to see he went back to arguing cats on twitter though lol
parker-bakole - was supposed to be a title shot for dubois ibf title but he had to pull out due to sickness 2 days before the fight (this might have saved schofield from blackballed, if you know you know)..so bakole who is top ranked said he would fill in. bakole's KO over jared anderson was still buzzing plus he hadn't been active since that win. so it was a great fight to replace. the problem. bakole was not in the gym like that since august. he was easily well over 300 pounds. 40 something pounds more than parker who also weighed in at a career heaviest. For the 2 rounds it lasted, there were def somethings you can take from it. bakole hurt parker numerous times with his punches and had him looking uncomfortable. did not expect a parker right hand to actually put down bakole like that. i do think that the ref prematurely stopped it. bakole got to his feet. give him a chance to fight back. it made the ending too anti climactic. but the fact parker was willing to take on a guy like that on short notice..it takes balls of steel. he def has them. this late run he's been on has been great. if he does get his title shot and beats dubois, we will def have to reevaluate where he ranks in this HW generation with the known 3. bakole i hope does get back to the shape he used to be since his manager said this wont affect his fight with efe ajagba in may.
beterbiev-bivol 2 - the fact that this turned around so quickly is awesome. and like i mentioned 175 is one those divisions where 1 fight can get you some months of downtime to heal up. this time bivol tweaked his game and became more offensive which was an issue in the first fight. the optics this time saw bivol get off first and kept up a consistent offense with his lateral movement. beterbiev's conditioning has never been an issue in his fights but he def had a much harder time trying to hit bivol cleanly to the body or head outside of a jab and he did noticeably slow down after 7. before that it looked like beterbiev was going to eventually break down bivol..bivol was looking a little shaky baby going to back to his corner at times. in the last rounds beterbiev never really had that type of success save for moments where bivol's back would linger too long on the ropes or corner. beterbiev did however win that final round and had bivol leaking but bivol needed to be busted up just few rounds earlier. salute to bivol for beating beterbiev and righting his wrong to become undisputed at 175....great win. it was a hard fight but beterbiev did not show really good sportmanship afterwards lol...he left that ring asap. it does seem that they are angling for a trilogy which i dont mind but gotdammit fight david benavidez first...he was right there watching everything. there's enough time to get off 2 fights this calendar year
overall i enjoyed the ppv..no concerts no real delays..production was good and moved things along..still dont think turki should be on the mic. he does and says too much weird shyt...well worth the money i put in on it. shoutouts to @Mr. Leonidas..i watched with him and his ppls... dude even dressed in a thobe to get into the whole riyadh season theme lol and the middle eastern food hit
Which will be a big mistake
Sauce and Footwork
Superstar
I literally just rewatched it. Just straight up outclassed. Didn’t have much to do with who was stronger at all. Incredible counter puncher, quick on his feet, great footwork, faster reflexes, better jab…Man is a master boxer. You could tell from the first round canelo wasn’t gonna have a answer for him, unless his power could stun him . Straight outboxed. Almost looked as easy as what Floyd did to him
Sidebar but that 1 or 2 of those Ortiz Madrimov scorecards was crazy
JamesJabdi
Superstar
Shakur Twitterson is back at it again.......dude is so underwhelming its insane. Had an easy layup yesterday and thats what he came with? 
Beterbiev getting up there in age and it SHOWS....should have gotten Bivol outta there in rounds 5-7....good bounceback and win from Bivol......but i got Benavidez beating both them cats.
Adames was robbed and Madrimov turrible.
Beterbiev getting up there in age and it SHOWS....should have gotten Bivol outta there in rounds 5-7....good bounceback and win from Bivol......but i got Benavidez beating both them cats.
Adames was robbed and Madrimov turrible.
It's a slightly underrated performance from Canelo. Bivol had flurries that looked good, but weren't actually getting through clean.
Stylistically all bad for Canelo, but he did a bit better than people give him credit for. He definitely went into the fight underestimating Bivol.
the jig is up buddy.. If you wanna be stuck on stupid STILL believing what someone who failed to secure a fight for a dying company trying to save face and lie cause they couldn't secure a fighter, has to say then the only idiot here is you.. You asked
I posted that.. you had no rebuttal....
Meanwhile Tank turned down $20m guaranteed for Haney
Look at this nikka twerking. Reply with the footage. Ok Tank and Shakue both Duck Devn, and then Shakur ducked Tank For Joe cordina.
The reason you nikkas are pathetic is because you can't even admit the truth, it's everyone else's fault hitnshakur lol. You Shakur and all these other nikkas are clearly the products of single mothers with this mentality. Thank God for Black Men like the Mason family.
at this point there are...literally hours of boxers that are 50/50 fights calling out Tank...and hours of Tank and his side making excuses.
To continue to entertain the Tank stans is insanity, just point at these fantasy land nikkas and laugh as they hype up another gimme fight for him.
To continue to entertain the Tank stans is insanity, just point at these fantasy land nikkas and laugh as they hype up another gimme fight for him.
<<TheStandard>>
I Am A God
Leonard Ellerbe continues to explain that yall don't understand the business and everyday Tank haters make it abundantly clear they don't get it,
There's hours of boxers calling out Tank because he's the DRAW at 135. Like Canelo said, these nikka want a payday. Tank is no different from every other prize fighter, he's fighting guys from his own promotional company and fighting exclusively in-house fights unless the fight makes sense financially (Ryan Garcia) and they actually bring something to the table. Shakur literally brings nothing to the table....He doesn't have fans, he's never been on PPV, he's boring. The only thing he brings to the table is the WBC belt and belts don't matter these days.
Do you think Keyshawn is going to fight anyone outside of Top Rank? Or is Keyshawn going to fight Andy Cruz? No because it doesn't make sense financially.
None of these fighters are ducks, it's the promotional companies putting them in the best position to make the most money long term.
The way it's going, Keyshawn is going to get the Tank fight before Shakur because at least Keyshawn has the potential to become a PPV star.
