"best-selling racing game by console attach over the past decade"....(Forza 5)

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Just answer this, neither you nor myself can give a definitive answer, but we're both fairly knowledgeable with this subject. Comparing the beginning of both gens, what would be harder to port. A game from 360 to PS3 or PS4 to XB1?
I'd say probably 360 to ps3 since the problems lingered far into the generation. But I think the challenges are very similar. Everybody talks about the cell being the big differentiator, but it was really the memory structure. What fit nicely inside the 360 memory did not fit into the ps3 memory. The same thing is happening this gen but it's vise versa.

In order to get optimal performance out of the X1 memory, mainly the esram things have to be cut up in smaller chunks and different effects have to be split between the two pools of ram. Ps4 is a lot more straightforward and similar to PC. At the beginning of a generation devs are basically working in the dark. So they estimate a reasonable performance goal and they built the games/engines around common PC architecture. The PS4 is doing better with this first batch of games simply because it is much closer to a PC.

Now I'm not saying we will ever get full parity, the ps4 is a faster machine for graphics output. And even if it wasn't there are plenty of other things that can effect development or performance of a game. But the performance gap we are seeing currently can not be fully attributed to the difference in power. It's much more complicated and as devs get more time with the hardware the gap will close.
 

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At this point arguing with meach is like arguing with a robot.

it's really sad at this point :heh: even courtney fell back

:ohhh: woooooow, I had to let that marinate for a second. Ima fall back now that I really let that set in.

Y'all can come through with snide comments, but I'm the only one that's honest and knowledgable enough to speak on it. The rest of y'all are just repeating something you read on a forum. You really aren't concerned with the truth, or understanding what's really going on. Your only concerned with winning the console war.

Who needs truth when misinformation makes you feel so good :ahh:
 

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the stat is weird and pointless. selling a million copies in a few months is something to be proud about. just go with that.
 

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Y'all can come through with snide comments, but I'm the only one that's honest and knowledgable enough to speak on it.

oh word, tell me again how DRM and always on are good for gaming? tell me again how the kinect will redefine gaming :mjlol:
 

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i think you mean it'll widen. :mjlol:

Case in point. Marcuz doesn't really care about the truth. He still thinks the 360 held last gen games back even though its been proven time and time again that the 360 was the stronger machine.

Why does he think this? Cause rekka said it, and he doesn't care if its accurate or even makes logical sense. He just knows it makes him feel good, so he repeats it
 

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Case in point. Marcuz doesn't really care about the truth. He still thinks the 360 held last gen games back even though its been proven time and time again that the 360 was the stronger machine.

Why does he think this? Cause rekka said it, and he doesn't care if its accurate or even makes logical sense. He just knows it makes him feel good, so he repeats it


cus rekka said it? :mjlol: no, because we were all able to see how ps3 exclusives were leagues ahead of xbox 360 exclusives. your answer to uncharted 2-3, last of us, killzone 2-3, infamous 1-2, heavy rain, beyond two souls (in terms of graphics) is HALO :dead:


if xbox 1 is hitting a brick wall already, what the hell do you think is going to happen 3-4 yrs from now? hoping the cloud will save you or something?
 

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oh word, tell me again how DRM and always on are good for gaming? tell me again how the kinect will redefine gaming :mjlol:

Never said kinect will revolutionize gaming, but when your appliances start listening to you and talking back. You can thank the kinect:cheers:

The most compelling and anticipated next gen games are always online, devs getting used game money would have been good for the industry, and switching games without discs would have been good for my laziness.
 

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cus rekka said it? :mjlol: no, because we were all able to see how ps3 exclusives were leagues ahead of xbox 360 exclusives. your answer to uncharted 2-3, last of us, killzone 2-3, infamous 1-2, heavy rain, beyond two souls (in terms of graphics) is HALO :dead:


if xbox 1 is hitting a brick wall already, what the hell do you think is going to happen 3-4 yrs from now? hoping the cloud will save you or something?

You clearly have no understanding of how game development works. You just repeat things that 3cepts told you. You don't even deserve a serious response:camby:
 

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Never said kinect will revolutionize gaming, but when your appliances start listening to you and talking back. You can thank the kinect:cheers:

implying i want goddamn home appliances w/listening devices

The most compelling and anticipated next gen games are always online, devs getting used game money would have been good for the industry, and switching games without discs would have been good for my laziness.

no facts, all opinion; and laziness? :dead: great reason to give up your right to used games
 

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You clearly have no understanding of how game development works. You just repeat things that 3cepts told you. You don't even deserve a serious response:camby:

and yet you cant explain why ps3 exclusives were clearly superior to xbox 360 exclusives. interesting :leon:
 

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implying i want goddamn home appliances w/listening devices
People with horses didnt want cars at one point:manny:

no facts, all opinion; and laziness? :dead: great reason to give up your right to used games
Complains about no facts, then repeats a fallacy in the same sentance :wow:
and yet you cant explain why ps3 exclusives were clearly superior to xbox 360 exclusives. interesting :leon:

Because they weren't. That's like me saying X1 is stronger than PS4 cause Ryse looks better than ps4 exclusives. It's a false equivelance and an invalid comparison. But once again your aren't concerned with the truth. Only stan facts:leon:
 
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