Better player: Curry or Iverson?

[roxxthe96er]

Facts. 2nd best SF of the 00s.

The individual match ups that he shined in are insane, people don't get it. Paul was ballin on a young healthy LBJ when he was past his prime, goin bucket for bucket up to like 40 points. Last year I hit up the Nets game when Paul an KG came back to the Garden, shyt was wild

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Iverson is a first ballot HOF and gets respect from players of his generation, inspired current players and gets props from players and coaches before him, but according to coli members he's overrated

But iverson supporters are the stans?

Nobody was on curry's dikk this hard when he entered the NBA. The thing I hate most than dikkriders are bandwagon dikkriders

Even iverson supports give curry props but curry dikk riders want to over prop him up by discrediting iverson'so accomplishments.

If iverson was overrated he would've never been an allstar multiple times, been all NBA multiple times, won MVP, or multiple scoring titles. You nikkas kill me. Then try to act like iverson didn't play on shytty teams during his prime years

 

[Draje]

Facts. 2nd best SF of the 00s.

You know how you can tell Paul Pierce is way too good?

Teams trust his old ass in the clutch more than anyone else. Honestly, I think Pierce has one of the most understated but complete offensive games I've ever seen. He reminds me a lot of Dirk in that his game has never aged.

 

[Remote]

You're revealing a suspect level of basketball knowledge. In what world can you just expect someone who shots 30 times a game to make 50 percent of those shots?

Curry shot 62% tonight. Which was fantastic.

I don't know where you guys get this idea that you can somehow score 50, 60, 70 points and NOT shoot at least 30 times a game at 50%.

When Jordan scored 69 points, he was 23 for 37 (62%)
When Robinson scored 71 points, he was 26 for 41 (63%)
When Jordan scored 64 points, he was 27 for 49 (52%)
When Carmelo scored 62 points, he was 23 for 35 (66%)
When Kobe scored 62 points, he was 18 for 31 (58%)

You can go look at almost every single time someone shot the ball 30-ish times or more, and the majority of the time, they've shot 50% or better...and on average almost certainly put up 40+ points..
It's not my fault nobody else here sees it.

 

[roxxthe96er]

You know how you can tell Paul Pierce is way too good?

Teams trust his old ass in the clutch more than anyone else. Honestly, I think Pierce has one of the most understated but complete offensive games I've ever seen. He reminds me a lot of Dirk in that his game has never aged.

Can we also talk about how many times homie has made people foul him on a 3? One of the deadliest fakes in league history,, dead ass. His time management has always been nasty, he'll be a hella good coach

 

[the cool]

Let me put things in better perspective.

The ONLY thing Curry has on Iverson is he's a better 3 point shooter.

People try to discredit AI's stats because of his field goal percentage but that doesn't tell the whole story. Iverson wasn't a great 3 point shooter as he only shot 31% for his career and in his best season he never shot higher than 35%.

But A.I. shot 45% on regular shots and for his size that's above average. Curry by the way shoots 49%... which leads me to my next point. Curry and A.I. are TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF GUARDS.

1. Curry is mainly a jump shooter. if his shot is off, then he can be contained with ease. A.I. on the other hand played as a scoring two guard for he majority of his career. So even if his shot was off, he was still going to SCORE.. because..
2. While Curry is a better free throw shooter, Iverson got to the free throw line way more. He average more than 10 free throw attempts per game multiple years while Curry only averages 4 free throw attempts per game for his career so far.
3. Iverson took more shots but he averaged about the same amount of assists as Curry with less talent. Steals and turnovers are about the same. Iverson is smaller but rebounds are about the same as well.

At the end of the day you simply need to ask, who's harder to contain. Iverson or Curry? That would be Iverson for the simple fact that he was faster than Curry and could MANUFACTURE POINTS by drawing fouls when his shot was off. If Curry isn't making his shot, he's not that hard to contain plain and simple. As far as being a playmaker, both are pretty much comparable.

what a shytty post. this post was really bad breh

 

[Draje]

Can we also talk about how many times homie has made people foul him on a 3? One of the deadliest fakes in league history,, dead ass. His time management has always been nasty, he'll be a hella good coach

Haha, my boy Wade has him beat solely off the fact that every person on the planet knows it's a better idea to let Wade shoot it then jump but he STILL sells it so well.

But Pierce's was sick because this nikka did it in slow motion. You just knew you could block it if you jumped and next thing you know, you fouled him and he's laughing at you

 

[erickonasis]

To the Curry fans i will apologize...not sayin hes better than AI but if he keeps on this pace he will be may just make the HOF. Still too early i say but this guy offensively well at least his shot is ridiculous. Only thing is hes pretty one dimensional.

Defenses may figure him out soon but he is good. He benefits from this soft ass league we have now but hes good no question

 

[erickonasis]

Celebrate kyle Korver with handles brehs

His shot is actually better than Kover suprisingly. His dads shot was pretty money too

Still this guy needs to put in more work. Jump shooters come and go

 

[Supercoolmayo]

Ai stans voing all out

 

[BrothaZay]

nikkas really comparing the best point guard since Isiah to Allen Iverson?

Both are better than Isiah

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

nikkas really comparing the best point guard since Isiah to Allen Iverson?

I prefer Curry over Iverson but Jason Kidd?

 

[Consumed]

To the Curry fans i will apologize...not sayin hes better than AI but if he keeps on this pace he will be may just make the HOF. Still too early i say but this guy offensively well at least his shot is ridiculous. Only thing is hes pretty one dimensional.

Defenses may figure him out soon but he is good. He benefits from this soft ass league we have now but hes good no question

This is the greatest backhanded compliment I've ever seen

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

His shot is actually better than Kover suprisingly. His dads shot was pretty money too

Still this guy needs to put in more work. Jump shooters come and go

Yeah look at what happened to 30 year old Kobe

 

[Noah]

Curry is only efficient when his shot is on. He doesn't know how to manufacture points. Iverson was able to score regardless. And he wasn't just a volume shooter. He average more than 10 free throws a game multiple season and played a lot of minutes (led the league multiple times). So Iverson was more efficient because he was able to manufacture points while Curry mainly relies on his jump shot.

Where are you getting this from? Only 20% of his 2-point attempts were assisted last year and only 45% of his threes were spot-up or assisted shots. Taking more shots regardless of quality doesn't make him better.

Iverson's MVP year ('01):

37% of 2-point FGs were assisted
78% of 3-point FGs were assisted

Both higher than Curry's which means more of his shots were assisted by teammates. Who's really better at manufacturing points?

Also for the record, Steph Curry has a lower percentage of shots assisted for his entire career vs. Iverson's career. Curry is predominantly a jump-shooter but it doesn't make sense to call him worse/more inefficient than AI because of that. Curry can rely on a jump shot because he is so damn efficient. I still don't know why that's hard to get.

Implying that Iverson was more efficient because he played more minutes is contradictory. He needed more minutes to average more points on lesser efficiency? Also I agree that Iverson could generate points well to a degree because part of his offense was drawing contact and getting to the line, but it doesn't excuse him shooting under 40% from everywhere on the court (excluding attempts from 0-3 feet) his whole career. Not even the amount of free throws he took boosted his TS% which is a measure of FG%, 3PT% and FT% all put into one percentage. Free throws generally boost a player's TS% (ex: Harden is a slightly above average shooter but his TS% is abnormal because of his free throw attempts/makes). AI's is poor in relation to his volume as his 51.8% career TS% is an average mark. If anything AI relied on getting to the line to average as many points as he did and things like PER reflect that.

Allen Iverson

Like I said in my previous post, AI's game was not naturally conducive to efficiency. That puts him at a big disadvantage vs. Curry in this comparison.