Beyonce has become insanely overrated

[Greenstrings]

I understand what you are trying to say here, but in my opinion, most beyonce songs sound the same to me, love on top is a whitney houston type track and for me personally, it sounds like shes screaming her way through every song. im not a singer, while i can play piano and saxaphone and make a couple of beats, im not a singer but to me i dont agree, adele, keyes, hudson, scott are all better singers to me, but thats me.

Her voice is almost impossibly distinctive and controlled and I think that often works against her, but fair enough I won't belabour the point.

In terms of dynamic range though, I don't think you're giving her near enough credit,



She's a different kind of artist to the other singers you mentioned (of whom I'd probably only entertain Scott and Hudson: Adele's voice is remarkable in tone and not much else, Keyes was always a screecher but has gotten worse of late).

They tend more towards soul/R&B while she aims for the populist. As a result her voice works more in service to the intent of the song than the other way around. But when she tones things down as in the songs above she's imperious.

Nobody else singing today besides Marsha Ambrosius, Vula Malinga, Bridget Kelly, Lianne La Havas and La la Hathaway can match her in terms of sheer talent and vocal control.

 

[volk]

Her voice is almost impossibly distinctive and controlled and I think that often works against her, but fair enough I won't belabour the point.

In terms of dynamic range though, I don't think you're giving her near enough credit,
Beyoncé - Me, Myself & I - YouTube
Destiny's Child - Emotion - YouTube

She's a different kind of artist to the other singers you mentioned (of whom I'd probably only entertain Scott and Hudson: Adele's voice is remarkable in tone and not much else, Keyes was always a screecher but has gotten worse of late).

They tend more towards soul/R&B while she aims for the populist. As a result her voice works more in service to the intent of the song than the other way around. But when she tones things down as in the songs above she's imperious.

Nobody else singing today besides Marsha Ambrosius, Vula Malinga, Bridget Kelly, Lianne La Havas and La la Hathaway can match her in terms of sheer talent and vocal control.

But you just named 5 people right there, each of whom puts out better quality music than the mediocre pop stuff that Beyonce puts out. Nonetheless, Beyonce is the one who is hyped up as some incredible great. Overrated.

 

[Omerta]

She tries too hard. She picks and chooses when she can bring her "urban" side out too much. Every major artist has a machine behind them, but her's just seems too obvious.

Although not even in the same league as Beyonce when it comes to talent, Rihanna doesn't face those problems. She seems like she's comfortable being what ever the fukk she wants to be.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Would still break her back.

Pretty much. She sells sex appeal more than music, so that's all that matters.

 

[aRoMaN21]

From what I have heard, a man named KEN gave her the mic at six and thats when everybody found out she had a voice. He was amazed that she could belt out what she did at 6.
BUT, he said she doesnt have an ear for music. She can sing alone but has issues singing with notes behind her, hence the whole inauguration fiasco.
Yeah maybe she didnt practice, but honestly thats a wakk excuse.
The reason she didnt do it live was bc she has issues matching notes in her ear and she didnt sing the song over and over and over b4 doing it like she does with her tour songs, which most are bakking trakks.
PLUS, notice how she sung the national anthem the second time withOUT any music behind her UNLIKE at the inauguration.


I don't think KEN would lie to me. He knows beyonce since she was 6.

 

[Greenstrings]

But you just named 5 people right there, each of whom puts out better quality music than the mediocre pop stuff that Beyonce puts out. Nonetheless, Beyonce is the one who is hyped up as some incredible great. Overrated.

My listening habits aren't a reflection of people's general conception of singing talent. Nobody really knows who Vula Malinga and Bridget Kelly are, nobody cares about but Lalah Hathaway and Lianne La Havas (yet). The fact that I listen to a ton of artists means I draw from a greater pool of talent when I make comparisons. That doesn't diminish the talent of those that I mention. All it implies is that I hold them all in high esteem. If anything it flies in the face of those who think there's a dearth of talent amongst female vocalists.

I admit that her oeuvre as a whole has been lacklustre, yet drawing from a 15 year career, the best of what she's done easily dwarfs the others I mentioned.

The notion of "overrated" isn't always useful unless we're talking strictly in terms of talent because the bluster of the image centric pop stardom obscures things.

Beyonce is generally believed to be a phenomenal live performer and a great singer. I think that's a pretty fair appraisal.

 

[volk]

My listening habits aren't a reflection of people's general conception of singing talent. Nobody really knows who Vula Malinga and Bridget Kelly are, nobody cares about but Lalah Hathaway and Lianne La Havas (yet). The fact that I listen to a ton of artists means I draw from a greater pool of talent when I make comparisons. That doesn't diminish the talent of those that I mention. All it implies is that I hold them all in high esteem. If anything it flies in the face of those who think there's a dearth of talent amongst female vocalists.

I admit that her oeuvre as a whole has been lacklustre, yet drawing from a 15 year career, the best of what she's done easily dwarfs the others I mentioned.

The notion of "overrated" isn't always useful unless we're talking strictly in terms of talent because the bluster of the image centric pop stardom obscures things.

Beyonce is generally believed to be a phenomenal live performer and a great singer. I think that's a pretty fair appraisal.

Great performer, I give you that. However my opinions are based strictly on the quality of the music. From this immature "Girls run the world" and "I been on/bytches Bow Down" type of stuff I don't see how the hype is justified. She does definitely have some gems in her catalogue, though. The talent and potential is there, I just wish the music would mature a bit.

 

[Bolzmark]

Beyonce is a Great Performer That's it.. doesn't have that overall package like a

Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey.. hell even not close to mary j blige.

Beyonce Just has the top spot because overall R&B has been dead especially the women in R&B

You say Whitney and Mariah have the overall package? What about dancing? You go to a Mariah show, she's just walking back and forth like a rapper. Elite voices yes, but there will be singing and singing ONLY.

MJB dances a little, but is nowhere near the level of Bey and doesnt sing quite as well.

I honestly dont think Bey is overrated. Chick is extremely talented. OVERSATURATED maybe, but not overrated.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

This is what you get when people care more about image then talent. There are plenty of singers that are vocally superior to B w/ better song and better albums but nobody cares.

Look at the top Artists Madonna, Rihanna, taylor swift, Adele. B is more talented then most of that list. She's never been great but the consumer doesn't care

 

[The War Report]

She ain't got shyt on Dianna Ross.

 

[Brock Landers]

Even though it is physically painful to listen to her try to form a sentence with her remedial ass, she has put out more than 3 good songs She's taken the Camel approach of claiming she's the best, not responding to anyone who challenges those claims and blackballing people

 

[Greenstrings]

Great performer, I give you that. However my opinions are based strictly on the quality of the music. From this immature "Girls run the world" and "I been on/bytches Bow Down" type of stuff I don't see how the hype is justified. She does definitely have some gems in her catalogue, though. The talent and potential is there, I just wish the music would mature a bit.

Populist statement songs are rarely ever interesting beyond the reactions they evoke. Pop music can't really shock in the way that other artists have used it to over the years and I won't pretend that those are good songs. They're not. (Run The World is actively awful)

But I think she has maintained some sense of balance. Artistically she hasn't lived up to her potential but I think that's more down to the creators she's surrounded herself with than any intrinsic fault of hers.

 

[blackslash]

B is to R&B what Jay is to Rap

2 who sit on the throne of their respective genres and are seen as the consistent succesors in their genres and so with that the hate that Jay gets from nikkaz is the same hate B gets with black females

Alot of bitter black females hate on B in the same way alot of bitter nikkaz hate on Jay

Its the..."I wanna root for the underdog and pray for the fall of the top dawg" mentality
Yea...they will say things like "Her music is wack and she is fake and this and that and this"
But its all coverup for the real rooted reason which is bitter hate for those who succeed too much

Every B and Jay video will have comments regarding the illuminati...why??
For the reason I have stated...It is hate for those that are continuous successors

It is what it is

 

[CrimsonTider]

She is the GOAT

and anyone who quotes this post to disagree, fukk YOU in advance.

 

[JustCKing]

Great performer, I give you that. However my opinions are based strictly on the quality of the music. From this immature "Girls run the world" and "I been on/bytches Bow Down" type of stuff I don't see how the hype is justified. She does definitely have some gems in her catalogue, though. The talent and potential is there, I just wish the music would mature a bit.

I think this is more accurate than saying she's overrated. Beyonce being overhyped is far more justified than her being overrated. It's easier to argue that the music doesn't match the hype, than to argue that her talent doesn't match how she's rated. The most frustrating aspect of Beyonce is that she's a talented singer and performer, but the music falls short. 4 is her best and Dangerously In Love is good, but the other two albums are nowhere near as solid.