Big Ben 2021 HOF
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There's only 2 players with 4 DPOY (Dikembe and Wallace).
Dwight has 3 and Rudy will have 3 after he wins DPOY as well.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
Dwight is a definite lock.
feelosofer
#ninergang
So Big Ben was selected to the 2021 HOF class
No one in their right mind can convince me that Ben was a basketball better player than Sheed or even Chauncey
I'd even argue that Ben wasn't a better defender than Sheed
I know counting stats seduces y'all...but Sheed was one of the best defenders at the PF position in nba history
Ben was an active help defender who accumulated counting stats
There was a reason Pistons won a title as soon as they got Sheed
Congrats to Ben tho
I'm a Sheed stan and I do agree he is an incredibly underrated help and peremeter defender but he wasn't the defender Wallace was. Wallace's defense made so that you couldn't score within a 10ft radius of wherever he was standing in the paint in his prime.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
Um, no. that would be Chauncy. And they didn't become title contenders until Sheed arrived.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
3 of those awards could've gone to Garnett and Bruce Bowen.
Bowen had the harder assignments.
Wallace isn't a HOF player in my eyes and I don't care what nobody says.
Controversy
Superstar
Ben was active, Sheed was the QB of the def and had to defend the tougher assignments
Chauncey did not anchor the defense. Get real. Ben defending the rim and the paint did. Guards arent the center point for defense.
And the year before they were in the ecf with a top defense before sheed came.
get these nets
Veteran
Read my post again aboutbDuncan "NOT needing to establish in the low post to be an effective scorer."Ben was Shaq's primary defender in the Finals but not Duncan...make it make sense
Compare that with Shaq.
Make sense now?
Hold up, I hope you don't think those Pistons were gonna win a title with Sheed on the team and Big Ben NOT on the team.So Big Ben was selected to the 2021 HOF class
No one in their right mind can convince me that Ben was a basketball better player than Sheed or even Chauncey
I'd even argue that Ben wasn't a better defender than Sheed
I know counting stats seduces y'all...but Sheed was one of the best defenders at the PF position in nba history
Ben was an active help defender who accumulated counting stats
There was a reason Pistons won a title as soon as they got Sheed
Congrats to Ben tho
Controversy
Superstar
if you are DPOY, you should be checking every all star big, no?
Ben was mobile...no reason he shouldn't have checked Timmy
get these nets
Veteran
Here is an early clip of Wallace as a Wizard playing against the Pistons
Guy is one the greatest defensive players the game has ever seen. Definitely one of , if not THE most versatile defenders.
Guy is one the greatest defensive players the game has ever seen. Definitely one of , if not THE most versatile defenders.
zayk35
Superstar
He deserves it...one of my favorite players ever
