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There's only 2 players with 4 DPOY (Dikembe and Wallace).

Dwight has 3 and Rudy will have 3 after he wins DPOY as well.
And with Rudy still being fairly young he will probably get at least 4 as well. Along with the 4 to 5 All NBA and All Star selections he will have that will be enough to get him in the Hall too.
 

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Yeah Dwight is getting in without a doubt. He's got close to 10 All Star nods and 8 All NBA teams to his name. Along with 5 rebounding titles and 2 blocks titles the ring he got with the Lakers was just he cherry on top.

It’s rather weird that people even ask that question lol. It shows how the negative bias that’s out there about a player can effect how he’s viewed.
 

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Well deserved, he was probably closer to 6'6 but made up for it with both strength and heart. Was watching his highlights the other day and that block on Shaq in 05 I believe is crazy, strength-wise he was Shaq's only peer back then

 

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Well deserved, he was probably closer to 6'6 but made up for it with both strength and heart. Was watching his highlights the other day and that block on Shaq in 05 I believe is crazy, strength-wise he was Shaq's only peer back then


I like Ben, and it was a great effort, but Shaq was right....it was a foul.
 

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So Big Ben was selected to the 2021 HOF class

No one in their right mind can convince me that Ben was a basketball better player than Sheed or even Chauncey
Basketball Hall of Fame is not a measure of how good a basketball player you are. Sheed spent most of his career underperforming. He was incredibly skilled yet never once made an All-NBA team and couldn't even make his 3rd All-Star team until he was 31.


Big Ben won 4 DPOY trophies, made 5 All-NBA teams, lead the league in rebounds twice and blocks once, was top-10 in MVP voting three times, and was the center of a defense that shocked the Lakers in the Finals and won the title....largely because he was one of the few men on Earth who could defend Shaq without help in the Finals without giving up 35-40. Whether or not you think he was a better player than Sheed, his impact on the league was simply higher.




I'd even argue that Ben wasn't a better defender than Sheed

I know counting stats seduces y'all...but Sheed was one of the best defenders at the PF position in nba history
:laff::laff::laff:

Breh Sheed was my favorite player for a time and even at the height of his popularity we NEVER believed this. :russ:
 

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3 of those awards could've gone to Garnett and Bruce Bowen.

Bowen had the harder assignments.

Back in the early 2000s I don't think anyone paid attention to defensive rating, defensive box plus minus, defensive win shares, RAPTOR, etc. They used the eye test and rep and they decided Ben Wallace was the best defender in the entire NBA four times.

But it probably means something that literally EVERY defensive measure ever invented shows that Big Ben was by far the most dominant defender of his era. From 2002 to 2007 he was the best defender in the NBA literally any way you measure it. The eye test and the metrics have never matched so perfectly.

Ben Wallace Anchored A Damn Good Pistons Squad
 
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