"Big never forgave me for selling Doin' It to LL"

[feelosofer]

I think that song was tailor made for LL's.flow.and cadence and it gave him a second life in the 90s after the debacle that was 14 Shots to the Dome.

 

[Unbothered]

It's a good thing he sold it to LL.

I love Biggie like most, but LL had the “ladies' man” thing going in '95. That whole Mr. Smith album was basically him going off and flexing for that audience.

Yeah, Biggie was a favorite among women, too, for different reasons, but there's no denying LL had the looks (pause) and appeal to draw in women similar to that of Pac.

Imagine Biggie rapping on Around The Way Girl sure he'd kill it in terms of spittin' but he ain't got the sex appeal to make the song click the way LL does.

 

[Methodical]

This beat is perfect for LL and he made it classic. No doubt, Biggie would have murdered that beat, would love to hear.

When @Buckeye Fever told us about story about him and his homie doing "Doin It" song

 

[NigerianDonDada]

ended up watching both interviews last night. What at a time in hip-hop LL bodied that record along with Hey Lover and Loungin remix.

 

[kingofnyc]

He said it was supposed to be Big's 1st single.

Imagining Hypnotize lyrics on that beat would make that song much better.

cap … ‘hypnotize‘ was always going to be his number one single
Ddot and the whole entire hit-man spent damn near the whole summer in 96 in the Virgin Islands totally isolated, producing a bunch of tracks for biggie‘s double album, puff LP and mase debut

It’s catchy. I know all of the lyrics. What MADE me LIKE it was what happened to B.I.G. I never LOVED it though.

respectfully disagree, but to each his own, you have every right to to your own opinion

I just think the track for ‘doing it well‘ would’ve not been the number one single off his album and I don’t even think it would’ve been a single released at all. My opinion is I think it would’ve been the track to substitute the song called ‘another one‘ which was featured with Lil Kim.


imagine a scenario where a nikka gets killed and they bring his body back home for his funeral, and he takes his last ride from his stomping grounds surrounded by hundreds maybe thousands of fans with broken hearts, and tears in their eyes and as the hearse slowly passes his building, somebody pops in his new single with the ‘doing it well’ beat on it …. I’m sorry that just ain’t it.


although it’s sad and a tragedy, this is one of hip-hop’s most monumental moment and the fact that hypnotize track was a part of it tells me all I need to know that it is possibly one of the greatest tracks of all time

 

[ThrobbingHood]

Yup. Like how Many Men was actually supposed to be a Nas song before 50 got it


this was supposed to be Nelly but he passed on it. this shyt would have been a huge comeback single for him.

“Apple bottom jeans.”

 

[ThrobbingHood]

I remember back when the track first came out, someone told me the track was for Biggie, hence the “Brooklyn” chants. But this was before Wikipedia so I thought he was telling tall tales. Turns out he was right.

 

[Roid Jones]

I remember back when the track first came out, someone told me the track was for Biggie, hence the “Brooklyn” chants. But this was before Wikipedia so I thought he was telling tall tales. Turns out he was right.

I heard that too but dismissed it as attaching Biggie to the Brooklyn chants was too convenient, who knew

 

[Buckeye Fever]

This beat is perfect for LL and he made it classic. No doubt, Biggie would have murdered that beat, would love to hear.

When @Buckeye Fever told us about story about him and his homie doing "Doin It" song

"Mmmm, baby wow, don't do dat"

 

[concise]

cap … ‘hypnotize‘ was always going to be his number one single
Ddot and the whole entire hit-man spent damn near the whole summer in 96 in the Virgin Islands totally isolated, producing a bunch of tracks for biggie‘s double album, puff LP and mase debut





respectfully disagree, but to each his own, you have every right to to your own opinion

I just think the track for ‘doing it well‘ would’ve not been the number one single off his album and I don’t even think it would’ve been a single released at all. My opinion is I think it would’ve been the track to substitute the song called ‘another one‘ which was featured with Lil Kim.


imagine a scenario where a nikka gets killed and they bring his body back home for his funeral, and he takes his last ride from his stomping grounds surrounded by hundreds maybe thousands of fans with broken hearts, and tears in their eyes and as the hearse slowly passes his building, somebody pops in his new single with the ‘doing it well’ beat on it …. I’m sorry that just ain’t it.


although it’s sad and a tragedy, this is one of hip-hop’s most monumental moment and the fact that hypnotize track was a part of it tells me all I need to know that it is possibly one of the greatest tracks of all time

With the "Brooklyn, Brooklyn" chant on the beat?
The crowd would have loved it.

And it would have been a completely different song in Biggie's hands. Just because LL turned it into "Doin It", doesn't mean Big had the same plans for the beat.

Similar to how this beat produced mutliple hits with different themes.

 

[Roid Jones]

How the heck you gonna blame Puff for your lack of professionalism

Yeah I don't see how Puff can be blamed, Puff was like 'you want me to spend 30k on 2 tracks for an album that is only being thought about

 

[kingofnyc]

Its fukked up cuz Biggie told him which samples to use but bidness is bidness

exactly
the fact that the whole concept and idea came from biggie as far as telling Rashid, what songs to sample and him coming up with the whole Brooklyn chorus, only leads one to believe that song was supposed to be biggie featuring lil Kim

 

[ThrobbingHood]

I don’t think anyone was truly at fault. The track landed in the right hands ultimately. Would BIG have ripped it? Undoubtedly but it wouldn’t be the same classic that LL gave us.

I can see why BIG was mad though. He gave him the idea to sample the beat, and to watch someone else profit off your idea would sting. But I can’t blame the producer for selling it to the highest bidder.

Great story either way.

And the funny thing is, the same thing happened to Diddy. He wanted to sample Steely Dan… but he was undercut by Lord Tariq and Pete Gunz with Uptown Baby. Karma.

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

LL had a crazy run. He had some bangers for the club.

Dude had the perfect balance of ladies man and street nikka. Very rare.

 

[kingofnyc]

With the "Brooklyn, Brooklyn" chant on the beat?
The crowd would have loved it.

And it would have been a completely different song in Biggie's hands. Just because LL turned it into "Doin It", doesn't mean Big had the same plans for the beat.

Similar to how this beat produced mutliple hits with different themes.

respectfully, have to disagree
the ‘doing it well’ track is just not hard enough … it’s a female friendly/party track

while hypnotize is the complete hip-hop track because it production can range from the most mainstream commercial -to- the hardest hard-core atmosphere