Bigger impact/influence Wayne or Kanye

[OrbanTrilltor]

Kanye, obviously.

Blueprint Jay.
College Dropout -> Helped the repirth of the backpacker movement.
Graduation -> Poppy synthy electro sound
808&HB -> Boi 1Da, 40, all those minimal ambient beats suddenly being the new thing

 

[William Bassington]

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[Capitol]

yea so we're gonna play like Wayne has no influence over pop culture?...

we gon pretend that Ye didnt say HISSELF that Wayne's autone use back in 08 didnt influence 808's & Heartbreaks?

I'm asking what his influence is and no one is saying anything. List his major influences

 

[Mike Otherz]

kanye by far

 

[William Bassington]

I'm asking what his influence is and no one is saying anything. List his major influences

he hasnt influenced anything, he just constantly outsells the whole genre without making an impact...

 

[Capitol]

he hasnt influenced anything, he just constantly outsells the whole genre without making an impact...

nikka are you retarded? Did I say he has no influence? I asked what his major points of influence was. Who/What has he influenced directly. Answer the question or step the fukk off.

 

[28 Gramz]

I'm asking what his influence is and no one is saying anything. List his major influences

No rappers were doing autotune before Wayne.
Style of dress, excessive tats.
His rhyme style.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

im talking beyond music too..

they both got reach in alot or aspects in american culutre(not just hip-hop culture)


there no doubt in musically these 2 are the biggeswt influence on the sound we hear today and the rappees comin up.... (not a good thing imo)

 

[Diyhai]

hard to tell, but ima go with wayne cause he 5 years younger and his impact is still growing

birthed 2 superstars, which is rare as hell these days...

I agree except his impact ain't still growing
One more wack cd and its over for Wayne
But the fact he brought nicki n drake is crazy

 

[Loose]

Kanye for the simple fact he helped put lupe on.

 

[Capitol]

No rappers were doing autotune before Wayne.
Style of dress, excessive tats.
His rhyme style.

1. If anyone is going to be given credit for making autotune popular I think it has to be T-Pain. I'm not going to argue that point tho.
2. If anything Wayne dikk eats on whatever style is popular. When it was baggy clothes he was in baggy clothes. When it was throwbacks he wore throwbacks. When it was white tees he wore white tees. Hipster/skate style? You guessed it, all of a sudden he is doing that too. He never ushered in the movement, he latched onto it. I guess so for the tats.
3. I'll give you that.

 

[William Bassington]

nikka are you retarded? Did I say he has no influence? I asked what his major points of influence was. Who/What has he influenced directly. Answer the question or step the fukk off.

but anyways....

-started auto-tune in hip-hop, brought that shyt to the forfront..nikkas like Kanye ran with it, while nikkas like Future based their whole career around it, Jay tried to kill it, but it ultimately backfired on him

-signed and developed 2 superstars, Ye has Big Sean and Cudi who are B-list at best

-founder of the most popular label in hiphop

-the most featured artist in music of ALL TIME, think about that for a second

-brought a more punchline oriented rapping into hiphop....even Big Sean said he was inspired by his earlier work

-like someone mentioned, the excessive tats

 

[28 Gramz]

1. If anyone is going to be given credit for making autotune popular I think it has to be T-Pain. I'm not going to argue that point tho.
2. If anything Wayne dikk eats on whatever style is popular. When it was baggy clothes he was in baggy clothes. When it was throwbacks he wore throwbacks. When it was white tees he wore white tees. Hipster/skate style? You guessed it, all of a sudden he is doing that too. He never ushered in the movement, he latched onto it. I guess so for the tats.
3. I'll give you that.

I argue the clothes/style thing with my brother all time.. he made a good point when he said Wayne is never the first to do anything fashion wise but when HE does it the shyt explodes (skinny jeans,the jim jones look).

And believe this or not, alot of these lil fake bloods in the south in these lil country towns like West Chattahoocie,Tn didn't start bangin until Wayne started flauntin his affiliation.

 

[William Bassington]

I agree except his impact ain't still growing
One more wack cd and its over for Wayne
But the fact he brought nicki n drake is crazy

yea possibly



if he can bounce back with the next CD he'll be good...cause dude is startting to get endorsements out the azz of the skateboarding shyt

 

[TrueEpic08]

No rappers were doing autotune before Wayne.
Style of dress, excessive tats.
His rhyme style.

T-Pain revived excessive autotune and influenced rappers (even Wayne himself) to do it.

And what rhyme style? Hashtag Rap? Big Sean revived it first (Edit: Somebody already got to this). The weird "I Feel Like I'm Dying" stream of consciousness style? Many, many rappers were doing that in various forms before him.

I'll give you the tattoo thing, as well as the fact that he helped crystallize and codify the current mixtape format through the Dedication series and Da Drought 3 (I'm SHOCKED that no one has brought this up in Wayne's favor, it's his one truly lasting contrubution to 2000s-2010s Hip-Hop culture).