Biggie calling the GOONS out in New York to blast at the Dogg Pound

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Can’t lie the way the way New York tries to cover the foul shyt big has done and try to paint him as completely innocent,is the same reason why people fukk with pac a lot more

especially when you know the full story all the protection looks lame as fukk
and everytime there is one of those biggie docs

you got gullible idiots who buy into the same narrative of "biggie the inoocent"
this thread is a good example of that
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/netflix-biggie-i-got-a-story-to-tell-discussion-thread.832081/page-7

same old same old:mjlol:


look R.I.P im not the biggest fan of down talking and bashing the dead

but when you read, and hear the shyt big did. Dude was a hoe ass nikka in alot ways.

you got people(mostly biggie stans, biter nyers, detractors, etc) who question Pacs personality. But overlook Bigs flaws. and the fukk nikka shyt he did.

Big was a whole fukk nikka fr:

From his woman abuse, issue with BCC, doing Long kiss on radio, What Gene deal said on not visiting pac, etc.
 
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There was no effort to delete all this shyt.. Nobody knew to save it. It's just like all the hip hop magazines. There's 150 of them, but lets just take The Source.. All them decades of magazines, interviews, articles... Gems that were said. Beefs that were talked about.. All the things we discuss, was on full display, in real time..........

Yet you can't find none of that shyt online. Most you can do is buy a used hard copy of the magazine, IF you find one. I can look up any Playboy, in full HD PDF, from forever, but can't find the 1998 Source with DMX, Jay and Ja doing full interviews and talking about each other before multiple beefs. I'll tell someone a story about an article that exactly answers a question, and they won't believe me, cause I can't find it online. This goes for radio, tv and most things hip hop. We never bothered to catalogue and save the shyt as legendary moments. Think how many classic radio freestyles nikkas had. Going to all 50 states doing promo runs, when radio wanted you to come up and spit a 16 on EVERY station. And it better not be the same lyrics...... GONE


I hope the next gen learns a lesson.. I mean we can't even find the Ras Kass video
 

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Not true. Kenya Ware just did an interview speaking on it as well. About how that is what ACTUALLY set off the issue somethin serious. That shyt dead happened but Pac gets all the brunt of the blame and they basically try to erase the shyt Biggie did to instigate from history. If Snoop or any of them died the whole narrative of the beef would be different imma tell u that.

Yep.

VH1 or somebody had the video of B.I.G. on the radio saying it...they only played a few seconds
of it that I saw, but I know I seen it. It was on somebody’s Behind The Music...
 

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There was no effort to delete all this shyt.. Nobody knew to save it. It's just like all the hip hop magazines. There's 150 of them, but lets just take The Source.. All them decades of magazines, interviews, articles... Gems that were said. Beefs that were talked about.. All the things we discuss, was on full display, in real time..........

Yet you can't find none of that shyt online. Most you can do is buy a used hard copy of the magazine, IF you find one. I can look up any Playboy, in full HD PDF, from forever, but can't find the 1998 Source with DMX, Jay and Ja doing full interviews and talking about each other before multiple beefs. I'll tell someone a story about an article that exactly answers a question, and they won't believe me, cause I can't find it online. This goes for radio, tv and most things hip hop. We never bothered to catalogue and save the shyt as legendary moments. Think how many classic radio freestyles nikkas had. Going to all 50 states doing promo runs, when radio wanted you to come up and spit a 16 on EVERY station. And it better not be the same lyrics...... GONE


I hope the next gen learns a lesson.. I mean we can't even find the Ras Kass video
Man I was just talking to my wife about this exact thing. I had a huge collection of Source, Vibe, XXL, a bunch of shyt, all of it got lost in one of our many times moving. Now I can't find shyt anywhere. Vibe has a decent online archive, but why only them? And even there, some of the better issues (Welcome To Death Row) aren't included in the archive... but you can find pretty much any comic book or like you said Playboy magazine in pdf or whatever with little effort (and often enough in great quality).

The radio freestyles, the interviews, a bunch of those MTV and BET appearances, Box Tops interviews, all kinds of Hip Hop is just lost in time cause none of us thought to hold on to it :mjcry:
 

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same lame nikkaz acting like biggie & dem started/instigated the beef


i fukking guess nikkaz can’t read & comprehend
the title to the Vibe mag - clearly states “ biggie & puff break their silence
if biggie & dem started/instigated this shyt .... WHY in da hell would they need to break their silence

:snoop:
MEANWHILE. The whole time them nikkas back n forth in LA hangin wit SSCC nikkas. Coming back to NYC. Biggie penning songs for Lil Kim dissing Faith and Pac. Asking a bunch of rappers to form like Voltron to diss Pac behind the scenes. Puff dissin nikkas on mixtapes. Biggie hoppin on the radio gettin DPG shyt shot up. Biggie dissin E40 in a magazine and almost gettin his ass lit up out in Bay cause them nikkas set up a fake concert for the nikka and E40 stoppin the shyt from happening. See it’s a difference between silent and SNEAKY. My nikka. Them nikkas was sneaky. NOT silent.
 

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and everytime there is one of those biggie docs

you got gullible idiots who buy into the same narrative of "biggie the inoocent"
this thread is a good example of that
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/netflix-biggie-i-got-a-story-to-tell-discussion-thread.832081/page-7

same old same old:mjlol:


look R.I.P im not the biggest fan of down talking and bashing the dead

but when you read, and hear the shyt big did. Dude was a hoe ass nikka in alot ways.

you got people(mostly biggie stans, biter nyers, detractors, etc) who question Pacs personality. But overlook Bigs flaws. and the fukk nikka shyt he did.

Big was a whole fukk nikka fr:

From his woman abuse, issue with BCC, doing Long kiss on radio, What Gene deal said on not visiting pac, etc.
This is why I chose not to even step in that thread or even watch the Doc cause for fukkin 25 years these muthafukkas been lying and hiding shyt Biggie has done to create a narrative against Pac and Suge. I just can’t wit the shyt. I’m prolly never gonna watch that shyt for that reason alone cause ATLEAST with Pac documentaries they point out his flaws. All u get is a bunch of fukkin lies about Biggie and shyt just takes away from the shyt for me.
 
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This is why I chose not to even step in that thread or even watch the Doc cause for fukkin 25 years these muthafukkas been lying and hiding shyt Biggie has done to create a narrative against Pac and Suge. I just can’t wit the shyt. I’m prolly never gonna watch that shyt for that reason alone cause ATLEAST with Pac documentaries they point out his flaws. All u get is a bunch of fukkin lies about Biggie and shyt just takes away from the shyt for me.
This reminds me of a recent clip of busta rhymes,lil cease and Angie Martinez, cease was explaining a story about why biggie never responded with a diss song and busta rhymes hit him with the :duck: and corrected him the exact song biggie dissed pac with all lil cease replied with was “oh yeah” :patrice::mjlol:
 

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This reminds me of a recent clip of busta rhymes,lil cease and Angie Martinez, cease was explaining a story about why biggie never responded with a diss song and busta rhymes hit him with the :duck: and corrected him the exact song biggie dissed pac with all lil cease replied with was “oh yeah” :patrice::mjlol:
Word yup Cease was also lying on Angie because he tried to say Biggie didn’t feel no way about her interviewing Pac cause he was on some “cool whatever” shyt cause he really loved Pac and before she put Cease on the line she told Fat Joe that she PERSONALLY knows Biggie was feeling a way about it. They got on wit Cease nikka straight up lied about it and that shyt was basically confirmation of how these nikkas been moving for years in a nutshell. I was happy as hell that Busta called Cease out on all that CAP because Cease was really tryna run wit this “Biggie never responded..” shyt and all Cease could do was laugh and be like “yea it was smooth tho..” or some bullshyt like that. Smh.
 

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I remember reading they got shot at while filming the video for New York, New York. I don't know if this is the same thing

It was the same thing. Big told them where they were at in Redhook (very grimy neighborhood at the time). The trailer Snoop was in got shot at.
 
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