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[KidJSoul]

Why would you use Brady to argue against Belichick's ability to put a team together when he's the one who drafted Brady and put a team around him that competed for SBs for 19 straight years?

Because him hitting Brady ended up masking his misses over the next 19 years.

The way you say it, you're implying that he consistently puts together great teams every year, when it's really that he drafted Brady, and then had 1 good draft every every now and then (like in 2010 and 2012) that has made up for him not having a good draft in a while. Was 2016 his last good draft?

Ignore Beli's record without Tom brehs

Ignore a 16-0 nearly unstoppable machine of a team going 10-5 while missing the playoffs without its QB brehs.....and spend the next 12 years pretending it was a great season

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This is one is the funniest because that wasn't a good accomplishment AT ALL.

Like, a LOT of coaches have actually done more impressive work than that

Mike Zimmer took Case Keenum to a 13-3 record and the NFC Title game.
Jim Harbaugh went to 49ers team that was ass for years and turned Alex Smith from a bust to a pro-bowl QB and brought them to the NFC title game
Mike Tomlin won 9 games with the WORST QBs in the league and with his skill position players being injured.
Denver won 9 games with Tim Tebow
Bill Cowher took Neil O'Donnel to the Super Bowl in 95 and Tommy Maddox to the AFC title game in 2001

Jeff Fisher went 13-3 with Kerry Collins and CJ2K with the 2008 Tennessee Titans
Jim Fassel and Sean Payton went 13-3 with Kerry Collins and took him to a super bowl in 2000
Sean Payton went 6-0 with Teddy Bridgewater last year.

Todd Haley who is a BUM went 10-6 with Matt Cassel the year after with a worse team and tougher schedule!!!!


Like bro... A LOT OF GOOD COACHES would have went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. John Harbaugh got 10+ wins outta Joe Flacco every fukking year, what makes you think that he couldn't get 11 wins out of a team that went 16-0 with Matt Cassel?

 

[KidJSoul]

Hindsight 20/20 on half those receivers you named
Hollywood already got picked,

Aiyuk wasn’t even in the 2019 draft and When they was both in college N’Keal was better and it wasn’t even close so I’m not understanding what you’re saying exactly

The NFL draft is a guessing game, a crapshoot. Picking N’Keal over those guys is not like picking Tribusky over Watson

The issue is that it's too many times. Look at what I posted before of Belichick's receivers over the past 20 years in comparison with the Steelers.

 

[THE MACHINE]

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Y’all really trying to do this shyt to BeliGoat?

Belichick has amassed 187 regular season wins as a head coach.
136-39 with Tom Brady
51-65 without Tom Brady

He managed a great QB and built some good defenses early on. He did enough not to get in the way the last 15 years, most years. The QB is the GOAT in this relationship

 

[No1]

Breh the team he put together won SBs and was a contender for 19 straight years. What other measure do you need to judge GMs other than the success of the teams they put together?

What other GM has put together teams the past 19 years that measure up to what Beli has done?

The first 3 rings featured a defense that Parcells and Caroll had put in place and he just had to tweak it with some first rounders (Seymour, Wilfork) and some vets that came on the cheap to win. That wasn’t some masterful team building. His drafting of offensive weapons has been questionable at best. He drafts guys like Gronk and Hernandez that are sure fire first round talents that drop due to injury and character concerns and it works out for him. He drafts other talented but injured players like Malcolm Mitchell and it doesn’t work out for him. Meanwhile, the Steelers somehow always find ways to draft great skill position players.

Pats are good at drafting catching RBs and offensive lineman. Aside from that, if it’s not a first rounder on defense then lower your expectations. We have seen this for 15 straight years.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Because him hitting Brady ended up masking his misses over the next 19 years.

The way you say it, you're implying that he consistently puts together great teams every year, when it's really that he drafted Brady, and then had 1 good draft every every now and then (like in 2010 and 2012) that has made up for him not having a good draft in a while. Was 2016 his last good draft?

Nobody nails their draft picks every single year. What kind of 6 year old mentality is this

"One day, i'm gonna be just like my dad who is the bestest and greatest superman in the whole world"

 

[Brandeezy]

I don't think Beli give af anymore brehs. He just be like nowadays

 

[Copy Ninja]

The first 3 rings featured a defense that Parcells and Caroll had put in place and he just had to tweak it with some first rounders (Seymour, Wilfork) and some vets that came on the cheap to win. That wasn’t some masterful team building. His drafting of offensive weapons has been questionable at best. He drafts guys like Gronk and Hernandez that are sure fire first round talents that drop due to injury and character concerns and it works out for him. He drafts other talented but injured players like Malcolm Mitchell and it doesn’t work out for him. Meanwhile, the Steelers somehow always find ways to draft great skill position players.

Pats are good at drafting catching RBs and offensive lineman. Aside from that, if it’s not a first rounder on defense then lower your expectations. We have seen this for 15 straight years.

GM is not just about drafting it's about putting a team together. Who has done that better the past 19 years in this salary cap era?

 

[BucciMane]

Matt Light
Richard Seymour
Deion Branch
Ty Warren
Dan Koppen
Asante Samuel
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankin
Matt Cassel
Stephen Gostkowski
Brandon Merriweather
Jerod Mayo
Matthew Slater
Patrick Chung
Sebastian Vollmer
Julian Edelman
Devin McCurry
Rob Gronkowski
Aaron Hernandez
Nate Solder
Marcus Cannon
Chandler Jones
Dont'a Hightower
Jamie Collins
Logan Ryan
Duron Harmon
Jimmy G
James White
Trey Flowers
Shaq Mason
Joe Thuney
Jacoby Brissett
Isaiah Wynn
Sony Michel
Chase Winovich



These are only the ones that there is no argument to be made that they have no been good picks. People will use hindsight and try to diminish Michel and some others though.

Not to mention many of these players stayed longer than four years unlike that long list of Steelers WR's.

 

[KidJSoul]

Nobody nails their draft picks every single year. What kind of 6 year old mentality is this

"One day, i'm gonna just like my dad who is the bestest and greatest superman in the whole world"

Stop being coy you know what I mean.

 

[UserNameless]

@THE MACHINE is so biased

 

[THE MACHINE]

@THE MACHINE is so biased

Gotta call it like you see it breh

 

[Copy Ninja]

Stop being coy you know what I mean.

Breh i'm gonna assume you're a fan of the team and follow it as I've been. Yeah some draft picks could have been better. shyt, i know that his drafting of WRs ain't great. But i'm gonna look at the overall picture and compare what he's done with the Pats vs what other GMs have done during his run.

Marino was GOAT level QB with a GOAT level HC, and how many SBs does he have? The teams he had were never good enough. Belichick always put a team around Brady that was good enough to win SBs.

 

[livindajetlife]

Side with coaches over players brehs

Think a QB winning Super Bowls while completing passes to midgets that get 6 inches of separation is the coaches doing brehs

Ignore Beli's record without Tom brehs

Ignore a 16-0 nearly unstoppable machine of a team going 10-5 while missing the playoffs without its QB brehs.....and spend the next 12 years pretending it was a great season

Ignore a coach benching his starting all-pro CB in a SB and giving up 373 yards, 3 tds and taking the L to a journeyman QB brehs

Lie to yourself and the world and call the QB "a system QB" for 20 years and still not be able to define what the system is brehs

*drops mic*
I was going hard on Beli and definitely exaggerating but there were patriot fans trying to tell me it was "the system" aka beli that made the patriots run or Brady as good .. fukk outta here

 

[The Entity]

Wow thecoli is dumb. This was always a rebuilding year, which is why Brady left. They didn't invest in skill positions and had many star players drop out for covid concerns. This was part of the plan therefore, it doesn't prove what you guys think it proves.

 

[THE MACHINE]

*drops mic*
I was going hard on Beli and definitely exaggerating but there were patriot fans trying to tell me it was "the system" aka beli that made the patriots run or Brady as good .. fukk outta here

Sometimes you gotta smack 'em in the face with facts