Bill Cosby Infamous Pound Cake Speech -highlights

[Versa]

bill actually spoke some harsh truth directly to black people. nobody likes to be told about themselves but barely any of that applies to me so i took no offense.

my issue is that he didnt get to the root of the issue - white people and their systematic oppression of blacks. we can never lose track of what the real issue is. he spent too much time attacking the symptoms and not the illness.

I agree with all of this 100% percent.

 

[Mountain]

That's pretty much the smiley I expected no real answers

Who gives a fck what white folks do?

If one of us talks about accountability and focuses on issues within our communities, as men we should engage in discussion and search for any merit in what is being said, then look for economic solutions.


Not throw that nikka under the bus on some "bbbbut yyyyyou didnt talk about white poeple you know what you saids gonna make us look bad infront of white people billdont tell me to pull up my pants bill fck you bill hope you rot in jail even though you may not have done it"


Sht is mad feminine and childish, thats not how grown men act. No nation or diaspora can grow without self critique because thats what leads to improvement.

Even if you dont like what he said, you should remember the tremendous amount of philanthropic work Bill put into the black community over the years and give him the benefit of the doubt that his heart was in the right place.

Instead whats happening is one of our biggest pro-black philanthropists/black icons is being destroyed by the white media over something that cant be proven, and you got a bunch of c00ns cheering these crackas on as they lynch him all because he criticized our community out of love 10 years ago. Sht is insane.

 

[Luxury Tax]

Eldridge Cleaver ended up as MORNOM CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.. Being a so-called pro-black revolutionary 50 years ago doesn't always mean you were that same dude 50 years ago. The elitism and classism and forgetting about his roots is what happened to Cosby.

Let's cut the crap breh. Cosby Never changed. He's an entertainer that came from the projects and throughout his successful career he never forgot about his people. His track record speaks for itself. He's always been an advocate for Black folks to do better by education and taking self responsibility... He's given millions to Black Charities & Universities and continues to speak apologetically on Black issues... Unlike the majority Black Entertainers. Black Men today are scared to be the Afrikan Warriors that we are but Dr.Cosby stayed on his Black shyt.

 

[rapbeats]

"We cannot blame white people. White people (clapping) .. white people don't live over there."

It was racially discriminatory housing laws that forced black families into the projects in the first place. Because of redlining, Whites were able to get home loans and move to those "white only" suburbs so they didnt have to "live there". This is why the Whites were clapping after Bill's statement...he completely blew off their role in creating the conditions that led to where the hood is now...and instead blamed us. Yeah...there some c00ning there, no doubt.

this is true. but have you noticed a theme with Bill Cos' era of black folks? MOST of them. speak like this on some front. some are not as bad as bill. but most of them think this way. Why do you think that is? They are victims just like we are. NEVER FORGET THAT.

the c00ns, the bedwenches, etc are Victims just like me and you. every victim will not act the same due to the trauma they have faced in their lives due to racism white supremacy. we all act differently. this is bill's and that era's reaction. part of the reason is, bills era was the first to integrate. So part of them wanted to be accepted by whites. which is a flaw and a symptom of racism/white supremacy. Another part of them were raised by black parents who were in the business of teaching their kids to either out do whites or show whites how sinless and smart you were. Basically advocating going the extra mile to be darn near perfect to prove to them how great of a people you are. as good as that idea is. its still steeped in the idea of PROVING yourselves to the white man. which falls right back into the above symptom of what?... exactly.

I heard bill talking crazy and i shook my head and turned him off. i refused to let his words taint what i know the man has done for us as a community. Bill gave us some of the best TV programming EVER with the cosby show and a different world. it completely changed our outlook on life and our possibilities when it came to educated black folks. He single handedly made people believe in college, believe in other upward mobile blacks. he made some believe it was possible. That alone is more than enough for me to dismiss his foolish victim syptom speeches after the fact. on top of that he didnt just pop off. he put his money where his mouth was. he was talking crazy but steadily giving to colleges and giving to communities. you can't let speeches make that go away. thats a sign of a man who cares about you. now his anger was misdirected. but so is OUrs when we see chicago youngins blowing each others brains out. and the first thing we say is "look at these little idiots" or "look at these fatherless sons " or "these hood rat baby mamas lost for having these bad actors for kids." we are doing the very same thing bill has said in his speeches. but the difference is. we dont have any track record of actually helping other black folks. BILL DOES. THINK ABOUT that before we cast that stone at billy Bill. and non of this have ANY thing to do with if he's a pill slipping rapist or not. two completely different situations. people can be good on one hand and evil on another. it is possible and it does happen.

or bill could have never slipped anyone drugs without their knowledge and these accusations could be all lies. still doesnt absolve billy billy of committing adultery on his wife. but that again has little to do with what we were talking about.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Who gives a fck what white folks do?

If one of us talks about accountability and focuses on issues within our communities, as men we should engage in discussion and search for any merit in what is being said, then look for economic solutions.


Not throw that nikka under the bus on some "bbbbut yyyyyou didnt talk about white poeple you know what you saids gonna make us look bad infront of white people billdont tell me to pull up my pants bill fck you bill hope you rot in jail even though you may not have done it"


Sht is mad feminine and childish, thats not how grown men act. No nation or diaspora can grow without self critique because thats what leads to improvement.

Even if you dont like what he said, you should remember the tremendous amount of philanthropic work Bill put into the black community over the years and give him the benefit of the doubt that his heart was in the right place.

Instead whats happening is one of our biggest pro-black philanthropists/black icons is being destroyed by the white media over something that cant be proven, and you got a bunch of c00ns cheering these crackas on as they lynch him all because he criticized our community out of love 10 years ago. Sht is insane.

Typical deflection argument a lot of nikkaz like you do

It's a reason why no other race throws each other under the bus like we do

Black folks love to criticize each other to get a pat on the head from white folks

And for the record I have yet to shyt on Cosby about these rape claims.

I am one of the few that maintain a code. Like I said whites, Asians Latinos never publically sit up and write "pound cake" type letters to eachother. You have to ask yourself why is that

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Who gives a fck what white folks do?

If one of us talks about accountability and focuses on issues within our communities, as men we should engage in discussion and search for any merit in what is being said, then look for economic solutions.


Not throw that nikka under the bus on some "bbbbut yyyyyou didnt talk about white poeple you know what you saids gonna make us look bad infront of white people billdont tell me to pull up my pants bill fck you bill hope you rot in jail even though you may not have done it"


Sht is mad feminine and childish, thats not how grown men act. No nation or diaspora can grow without self critique because thats what leads to improvement.

Even if you dont like what he said, you should remember the tremendous amount of philanthropic work Bill put into the black community over the years and give him the benefit of the doubt that his heart was in the right place.

Instead whats happening is one of our biggest pro-black philanthropists/black icons is being destroyed by the white media over something that cant be proven, and you got a bunch of c00ns cheering these crackas on as they lynch him all because he criticized our community out of love 10 years ago. Sht is insane.

Combining your post with ridedolo's, a lot of folks are exposing themselves by the glee taken.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

"We cannot blame white people. White people (clapping) .. white people don't live over there."

It was racially discriminatory housing laws that forced black families into the projects in the first place. Because of redlining, Whites were able to get home loans and move to those "white only" suburbs so they didnt have to "live there". This is why the Whites were clapping after Bill's statement...he completely blew off their role in creating the conditions that led to where the hood is now...and instead blamed us. Yeah...there some c00ning there, no doubt.

Bingo. Cosby would NEVER write a "pound cake" letter/speech to white people holding them accountable for their fukkery. @Mountain

 

[ridedolo]

i'll assume you would have a problem with the message if it came from whites. which is exactly why his commentary resonated so heavy with the white audience. he said what they all feel, but can't say without being called racist

again, you're dealing with hypotheticals whereas i like to deal with facts .i told you to miss me with that.

assume whatever you'd like b.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

again, you're dealing with hypotheticals whereas i like to deal with facts .i told you to miss me with that.

assume whatever you'd like b.

 

[ezrathegreat]

His speeches and opinions had merit to them but once they started being used by right wingers to justify racism and to shame black people he should have made a statement condemning them.

 

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This is factually dishonest. Most of this country wanted nothing to do with blacks after slavery and many businesses all across the country, even some in the north, had signs that explicitly stated that they did not want to do business with blacks under the idea that they reserved the right to refuse service or conduct trade with anyone for any reason.

Bill Cosby statements are problematic because he's completely ignoring the fact that no matter what you achieve in life education career or money that you are not immune to the white supremacist system in the United States.

You can have an M.D. PhD JD perfect credit, be an excellent spouse and parent to your children, and if you're Black you can still be murdered by the police.

Sandra bland, Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin, etc., we're not doing anything wrong and were completely innocent when they were murdered by white supremacist or Police or both. Freddie gray did not sever his own spinal cord.

I agree that we need our own people in our communities to protect us from the police. That is why the Black Panther party was destroyed. They acted on behalf of the community. They gave free breakfast and they patrol the neighborhood to protect people from police brutality.

Integration is been the single worst thing to happen to Black people.

Immediately after slavery ended Black people excelled in this country economically politically in every single way.

We excelled so much in fact, that white people using the government enacted laws to restrict our ability to make progress.

When you look at it the period from reconstruction to Jim Crow you will see the amazing amount of hatred racism and horrific behavior towards us.

Racism through white supremacy worked overtime to BLOCK the progress of Black people in every way possible.

White people in United States sought to destroy every single successful Black achievement and community. From Rosewood to Tulsa Oklahoma we see over and over again how black people were attacked because white people were jealous of our progress.

You cannot criticize the communities now that are impoverished due to lack of jobs and economic opportunities based upon some imaginary moral fiber.

The irony is it the same white supremacist racist system that Bill Cosby told us to ignore is now his very own scapegoat for his misfortunes. All of a sudden it is because of racism that he is facing these charges.

How ironic is it that the man who told us that racism is no longer to blame for our misfortune is actually blaming racism for his?

How ironic is it that he condemned entire communities of people for their supposed moral failings when he at the very least was a complete and horrific failure as a father and a husband?

How ironic that a man Who refuse to get justice for his own daughter when she was a victim of rape is now facing justice himself?

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on, because if they can get Bill Cosby they can get you too.

Any Black man at this point who continues to seek out and have sex with white women is a got damn fool and a dummy and deserves whatever rate and other charges that she puts against him.

Any Black man on this site who continues to spew hatred against Black women is a got damn dummy, because it is a Black woman Bill Cosby's attorney who is defending him vigorously and another black woman his wife who is with him ride or die.

I do not agree with the judges ruling at all, but I think it's really ironic that all of a sudden Bill Cosby believes that racism is a problem.

Bill Cosby actually thinks he's being persecuted because he is a Black man... wow

What the judge did by issuing this ruling is let Bill Cosby know that he is no better than the guy who got shot in the back of the head for stealing the poundcake.

If he wants to cry and boo-hoo someone needs to remind him that he had no business with those women and those Quaaludes or other sedatives.

Those Quaaludes are bill Cosby's poundcake

How are you going to quote me PARTIALLY????


Did you not read my entire post? Did I not say that there were aggressive measures taken to impede progress?

Why are you contradicting something when I clearly made a complete statement that you ignored?

 

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***Disclaimer*** there are a lot of posts in this thread that have nothing to do with the things they're responding to. Some people are obviously not reading and just responding to what they think someone else posted.

 

[ridedolo]

Combining your post with ridedolo's, a lot of folks are exposing themselves by the glee taken.

it's evident a lot of these dudes had no strong male figure in their lives and were raised to be emotional like women.

 

[ridedolo]

How are you going to quote me PARTIALLY????


Did you not read my entire post? Did I not say that there were aggressive measures taken to impede progress?

Why are you contradicting something when I clearly made a complete statement that you ignored?

i had someone do the same thing and quote me partially. it's clear that people just want to argue and not deal with facts.

 

[philmonroe]

bill actually spoke some harsh truth directly to black people. nobody likes to be told about themselves but barely any of that applies to me so i took no offense.

my issue is that he didnt get to the root of the issue - white people and their systematic oppression of blacks. we can never lose track of what the real issue is. he spent too much time attacking the symptoms and not the illness.

Bold is a problem with people but in this case since we are talking black people we will keep it there. You always. It ice every time somebody says something like Cosby that isn't coddling too many people just look for ways to discredit it instead of looking for the truth in the comments? Its always this person said it wrong, he's a c00n, or what about if white folks said. Always some deflection. That shyt is annoying and I know most people on here aren't even who dudes is taking about but instead of always looking for ways to discredit on some sucker shyt take what you know to be true and discard the rest. Dude talked some truth and people might not like how he said it but truth is anytime you tell people about themselves they won't like it. You do it like this they mad if you tell them in a coddling way they don't pay attention so truth is cats just want to do whatever and never be called out for it. That is a big problem IMO.


The illness is not oppression of blacks its too many of us not thinking we can do much. It takes time to get where whites are (the ones at the top) but how most of,us run our business we will never get there. In this day and age we have chances to financially do things our grandparents only could dream of but we act like that potential isn't there too often. Every body can't be a baller but some of us can and actually do things to change the future. That's what we need and haven't had before I feel too many people take it for granted. That's a big problem just as much as any racism IMO because we can't change racism ever that's how life is made to be but starting to make a mark in other areas we can do that. Not as many people have taken advantage of that which is honestly sad and a discredit to those who came before us that made these opportunities possible. I'll never take what they've done to potentially better things for us for granted ever.