Bill Maher ethers fat people. James Corden responds. The internet mad.

[Amused Mastery]

With all the talk of moderation and being aware, why isn’t there more of an out-cry for awareness with high-cholesterol foods? If we’ve got an advert for a double-bacon triple cheeseburger with heart disease being the leading cause of death in the U.S., why not a simple “Eat responsibly” or call to have all fast food entities out a disclaimer on their packaging?

Health is something that's going to have to be done on an individual level. The processed food and medical industries are in bed with one another and they'd rather just toss a bunch of pills at you instead of getting to the bottom of the real problem. I don't expect companies to really rally behind this, b/c, for the most part, people don't actually care what they put in their bodies, just that it tastes good. The best thing you can do is take control over your nutrition and actually read labels (that serving size is a killer), then teach other people to do the same.

 

[Drew Wonder]

They both made good points. Obesity is a health crisis and fat people need tough love and people they care about to hold them accountable the way we criticize people who smoke or drink too much.

The problem is, as Corden pointed out, a lot of times it doesn’t come from a place of tough love or genuine concern. From little kids to adults, people love making fun of fat people. They don’t give a fukk about their health, they just think it’s funny. Even Maher couldn’t help but throw in the typical “fat people are virgins” and “they can’t see their dyck” jokes. And that shyt doesn’t motivate people to lose weight, it just makes them feel even more like shyt.

Corden also made a good point that poverty and lack of access to healthier food options play a role and its pretty glaring for a rich dude like Maher not to point this out. If we’re gonna start holding fat people more accountable we gotta start holding big chain restaurants that pretty much advertise poison on the daily more accountable as well. And the news and social media plays into that too. Imagine if a new cigarette brand was promoted as heavily as that new Popeyes chicken sandwich was lol

In conclusion, Bill’s overall point makes sense, but it’s weakened by him oversimplifying things and being a smug, condescending a$$hole unable to acknowledge issues that don’t affect him

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

They both made good points. Obesity is a health crisis and fat people need tough love and people they care about to hold them accountable the way we criticize people who smoke or drink too much.

The problem is, as Corden pointed out, a lot of times it doesn’t come from a place of tough love or genuine concern. From little kids to adults, people love making fun of fat people. They don’t give a fukk about their health, they just think it’s funny. Even Maher couldn’t help but throw in the typical “fat people are virgins” and “they can’t see their dyck” jokes. And that shyt doesn’t motivate people to lose weight, it just makes them feel even more like shyt.

Corden also made a good point that poverty and lack of access to healthier food options play a role and its pretty glaring for a rich dude like Maher not to point this out. If we’re gonna start holding fat people more accountable we gotta start holding big chain restaurants that pretty much advertise poison on the daily more accountable as well. And the news and social media plays into that too. Imagine if a new cigarette brand was promoted as heavily as that new Popeyes chicken sandwich was lol

In conclusion, Bill’s overall point makes sense, but it’s weakened by him oversimplifying things and being a smug, condescending a$$hole unable to acknowledge issues that don’t affect him

I agree with most of what you said aside from the bolded. If the big chains tell you on the menu how many calories an item is and you still eat that shyt then it's on you.

Same way cigarette companies are required to warn people about the risks if they smoke and idiots still do it.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

@iBrowse is fat but he managed to get a gf

Wtf

Fred

 

[iBrowse]

@iBrowse is fat but he managed to get a gf

Wtf

Fred

:mjorly:

 

[Drew Wonder]

I agree with most of what you said aside from the bolded. If the big chains tell you on the menu how many calories an item is and you still eat that shyt then it's on you.

Same way cigarette companies are required to warn people about the risks if they smoke and idiots still do it.

Very true. But there’s a difference between a small number in the corner when you actually show up to the spot after seeing hundreds of ads and social media posts talking about how delicious the new burger or chicken sandwich is and how much you’re missing out on the National convo if you don’t eat it

Vs.

A blunt and direct message saying “hey bruh, if you eat this shyt you run the risk of getting a heart attack and dying”

Again, think about how ridiculous it would seem if a cigarette brand was promoted the same exact way the newest fast food craze is promoted

When it comes to issues like this people tend to either go with complete personal accountability or complete societal/corporate accountability. I just think the truth is somewhere in the middle

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Very true. But there’s a difference between a small number in the corner when you actually show up to the spot after seeing hundreds of ads and social media posts talking about how delicious the new burger or chicken sandwich is and how much you’re missing out on the National convo if you don’t eat it

Vs.

A blunt and direct message saying “hey bruh, if you eat this shyt you run the risk of getting a heart attack and dying”

Again, think about how ridiculous it would seem if a cigarette brand was promoted the same exact way the newest fast food craze is promoted

When it comes to issues like this people tend to either go with complete personal accountability or complete societal/corporate accountability. I just think the truth is somewhere in the middle

I can't disagree with anything you said here...repped.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Bill is 100% right

 

[Vandelay]

This car was a really bad choice.

She probably adds a whole 2 seconds to the 0-60 time for this car.

 

[Bless't]

Good debate.

I see good points on both sides and I wouldn’t say either is necessarily wrong in their overall point. I believe that Maher is pointing out how we seem to champion obesity here in the U.S. and that’s definitely becoming more true. Back in the day, drinking and smoking were presented more often as appealing and even sexy.

To an extent, they still are but it’s been dialed way down and they balanced this out with anti-smoking ads (the Truth campaign) with people and their stomas or showing graphic accidents caused by drunk/buzzed drivers, last texts from victims of drunk driving. We don’t even have cigarette ads on TV and alcohol ads give you the “drink responsibly” disclaimer.

I was watching “Thank You for Smoking” earlier this week and Aaron Eckhart has a debate with the people who are lobbying for tobacco to include a skull & crossbones on tobacco product labels to show how dangerous they are to kids.

With all the talk of moderation and being aware, why isn’t there more of an out-cry for awareness with high-cholesterol foods? If we’ve got an advert for a double-bacon triple cheeseburger with heart disease being the leading cause of death in the U.S., why not a simple “Eat responsibly” or call to have all fast food entities out a disclaimer on their packaging?

I mean....

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/kfc-returns-from-the-kitchen-with-a-new-sweet-savory-item.733454/


Why not put a disclaimer on all soft drinks (sports drinks included) to inform people of how dangerous too much sugar can be?

Good post.

 

[thekingsmen]

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Corden also made a good point that poverty and lack of access to healthier food options play a role and its pretty glaring for a rich dude like Maher not to point this out. If we’re gonna start holding fat people more accountable we gotta start holding big chain restaurants that pretty much advertise poison on the daily more accountable as well. And the news and social media plays into that too. Imagine if a new cigarette brand was promoted as heavily as that new Popeyes chicken sandwich was lol

However Corden is rich has access to all that and makes excuses. At one time in history being fat showed a sign of being rich. It's not the poor and obese, it's those who have extra funds splurging on food.

 

[Ziggiy]

They both made some good points

 

[Amused Mastery]

Very true. But there’s a difference between a small number in the corner when you actually show up to the spot after seeing hundreds of ads and social media posts talking about how delicious the new burger or chicken sandwich is and how much you’re missing out on the National convo if you don’t eat it

Vs.

A blunt and direct message saying “hey bruh, if you eat this shyt you run the risk of getting a heart attack and dying”

Again, think about how ridiculous it would seem if a cigarette brand was promoted the same exact way the newest fast food craze is promoted

When it comes to issues like this people tend to either go with complete personal accountability or complete societal/corporate accountability. I just think the truth is somewhere in the middle

I get where you're coming from, but I don't for a second expect a fast-food company to flat out tell you it's bad when that's their source of revenue lol. Even the commercials for medications list off the side effects super fast b/c they don't want to focus on it

As a bit of a devil's advocate point, I'd actually argue that we've gotten better at pushing healthier options than in the past. I swear the '90s and early 2000s were the wild west in terms of bad food options. Supersized meals at McDonald's, meals for kids that featured larger portions, not too much variety at existing restaurants, etc. Heck, before the whole Subway craze (which in itself isn't even super healthy but that's another topic), fast food was primarily awful in terms of what you had to offer. I feel like in 2019 you have FAR more control over what you can actually order. Calorie counts are displayed in restaurants and in most cases, you can flat out view the macros of stuff at major chains. Factor in restaurants having healthier options for entrees/sides and tracking apps allowing you to flat out log what you eat, giving you more data than you ever had a decade ago. While it's still very easy to hop into a store and order something deadly, you can also pop into most major chains and get something macro-friendly.

No amount of advertising is going to help an individual break that dopamine response loop of eating something fatty/sugary and getting pleasure from it.

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

They both made good points. Obesity is a health crisis and fat people need tough love and people they care about to hold them accountable the way we criticize people who smoke or drink too much.

The problem is, as Corden pointed out, a lot of times it doesn’t come from a place of tough love or genuine concern. From little kids to adults, people love making fun of fat people. They don’t give a fukk about their health, they just think it’s funny. Even Maher couldn’t help but throw in the typical “fat people are virgins” and “they can’t see their dyck” jokes. And that shyt doesn’t motivate people to lose weight, it just makes them feel even more like shyt.

Corden also made a good point that poverty and lack of access to healthier food options play a role and its pretty glaring for a rich dude like Maher not to point this out. If we’re gonna start holding fat people more accountable we gotta start holding big chain restaurants that pretty much advertise poison on the daily more accountable as well. And the news and social media plays into that too. Imagine if a new cigarette brand was promoted as heavily as that new Popeyes chicken sandwich was lol

In conclusion, Bill’s overall point makes sense, but it’s weakened by him oversimplifying things and being a smug, condescending a$$hole unable to acknowledge issues that don’t affect him

Sometimes too many options leads to obesity as well. In Brazil, once their economy improved and people were able to afford more food ---- they got fatter.

Brazil's obesity rate soars 60 pct. in a decade

People get fatter because they overeat period. And the reason they overeat are for different reasons. You could say someone in poverty is depressed so they eat more junk food. But the overweight rate is so high, there aren't enough low income people in food deserts to say this is why we have so many fat folks. I know too many middle class people with great jobs who pig out and drink every weekend.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Most fat people struggle with depression. You’re not going to eat that much unless something is mentally wrong with you. Fix the mind and the body will come. You also think a lot of folk simply don’t know how to eat properly. Eating a Caesar salad could have just as many calories as a burger but folk will think they’re eating healthy. Too much junk food, too much salt and sugar in food. Also plenty of non-fat people unhealthy as duck.

Nah, most fat people don't struggle with depression. If they're extremely fat yeah. What happens to most people is they gain weight after highschool, metabolism slows down and it starts in college. After college you get that desk job and it's over from there. Gotta watch what you eat and exercise and most people don't do that, especially blacks. I've never seen a black person jogging through the neighborhood.