Bill Maher: “Listen, Everyone Had Slaves & Practiced Slavery”

[MarcMan]

Obviously, slavery has been around and was fairly widespread until recently. No one's disputing that.

But the legacy of American slavery is still alive and well in our institutions, in the minds of too many white people and in our wealth and opportunity inequality.

If black people today had access to the resources and opportunity that whites enjoy, to say nothing of owed reparations, that would go some way in moderating the conversation around American slavery.

Until then, I could give a fukk about whites crying that they're tired of hearing about slavery.

Everyone wants to end the fight after they got the last hit in.

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Did you even read that link? It debunks the "Johnson was the 1st slave owner" narrative.

I searched this thread for his response to what you just said and I found nothing.

Did he ghost?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

This is what black people need to stick to when speaking on reperations. Between that and the crack epidemic/CIA/Contra connection. Im really not sure why we like to zero in on slavery so much. There are many documented things that have been done to black people other than slavery.

This is a very very good point!!!
I think any discussion on slavery the crack epidemic should always be mentioned.
Didn’t even think about that

 

[Cuban Pete]

Did they have slaves in the United States, then terrorize the former slaves, and make them second class citizens decades after being forced to free them?

This is the part that gets me. The whole diaspora went through chattel slavery, but only Americans went through that brutality and had to put up with even MORE brutality LEGALLY until like.. 45 years ago maybe? That shyt is mindblowing. How can you be against reparations in that condition and then some in the same breath turn around and cape for Holocaust reparations (the US wasnt even involved in that), Japanese internment camp reparations, and Native American reparations and reservations? And then wonder why Black Americans still mad? Racists really dont use fukking logic

 

[Vandelay]

I get what Bill was trying to do...but it was in poor execution. I used to be a big fan, and I still like and watch his show because I appreciate informed debate from opposing viewpoints, but I can't cape for dude anymore.

The flaw in his argument is, while it was a long time ago (two grandparents so not really), it still has repercussions for today. I fault him for thinking the average American has as much discernment as I like to think he has. Right wingers will take this, like many of his talking points post house-nikka heel turn as evidence that many things regarding black people are not as serious as we present them to be. He just simply has to do better than that.

Jim Meacham on this very show actually had a better argument for the plight of black people, it's really only been 57 years of relative equality. Most of our parents are probably that age or slightly older.

 

[Glorious]

Anything to justify not paying reparations to black folks I see...

You see it too. He's not slick.

 

[50CentStan]

Bill maher is a Zionist pig

 

[get these nets]

This is the part that gets me. The whole diaspora went through chattel slavery, but only Americans went through that brutality and had to put up with even MORE brutality LEGALLY until like.. 45 years ago maybe?

How can you write that America was the only place that formerly enslaved dealt with more brutality after abolition?

Post abolition and pre-Castro, Blacks in Cuba dealt with brutality, labor exploitation, and second class citizenship, as did the Africans in the rest of Latin America to varying decrees.

 

[Cuban Pete]

Double Post

 

[Cuban Pete]

How can you write that America was the only place that formerly enslaved dealt with more brutality after abolition?

Post abolition and pre-Castro, Blacks in Cuba dealt with brutality, labor exploitation, and second class citizenship, as did the Africans in the rest of Latin America to varying decrees.

I definitely worded that wrong. What I meant to say was, to the degree that the law was ENFORCING racial segregation and brutality. Blacks in Cuba dealt with all these things, but it was NEVER enshrined into the laws of the state. In fact, our independence movement succeeded because Cespedes, one of the largest creole plantation slavers, freed his slaves, asked their forgiveness and pleaded with them to join the war on the basis that the ensuing republic would be built upon the backs of free men of all colors and creeds, against the Spanish crown. This is in our constitution, our abolitionist movement was simultaneously the independence movement. Segregation in post Civil War America was the LAW in the South. That shyt hits different. Racism in Latin America post abolition would be like comparing the racism Black Americans felt in Northern States in the reconstruction era. Yes its harsh and terrible but I cant find an example similar to the American South, if you can please genuinely enlighten me because I like to learn new things.

 

[br82186]

Candace “I love buttered biscuits” Owens was saying something like that the other day…