Bill Simmons is right on about Derrick Rose

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I respect you and your opinion, but derrick rose has YET to put up the same kind of numbers a HEALTHY arenas did. The only stat i would say is assists.....Rose averaged one more assist than gilly but thats it.

Gilly averaged 29.3 points on a playoff team that had 3 20point scorers. while shooting 45%. Dude had more game winners in that 3yr span than anyone in the league. NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE could stop Gilbert Arenas. Nobody. Now i don't know what you were watching around 2004-2007 but gilbert arenas was elite.....call it what you want.


Top players in the league from 2004-2007

Kobe
Iverson
LEbron
Gilbert
Wade

so you'd take 04-07 arenas over..

nash???????????????????????
duncan???????????????????????
kg??????????????????????????????????
yao
dirk
vc
kidd
tmac
and im missin sum nigs
 

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If Rose comes back and doesn't mentally trust his knee, he will over compensate and subsequently hurt something else. If that happens, and he hurts the same knee or the other knee, then Rose will be Randy Livingston. He is being smart and I can't blame him for that when it's his livelihood at stake.

But, I will say this, Adiddas really hurt him with #Thereturn campaign. They set the expectation that his return was imminent.
 

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so you'd take 04-07 arenas over..

nash???????????????????????
duncan???????????????????????
kg??????????????????????????????????
yao
dirk
vc
kidd
tmac
and im missin sum nigs


homie i'm telling you......arenas was :whew: no one was stopping him....only person on your list i'd take over gilly is Duncan/garnett..

nash only thrived in that particular system and played no d
yao was always hurt
dirk was dope
vc coasted
kidd was dope
mcgrady's back shyt was starting up...
 

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Arenas was never even close to top 5 stop that nonsense.

In 04-05

Duncan
KG
Nash
Kobe
Shaq
Wade
TMac
Dirk

were all clearly better


05-06

Nash
Wade
Kobe
Duncan
Lebron
KG
Dirk

all clearly better

06-07

Duncan
Dirk
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
KG

Gilbert never came close to top 5 :laff:
 

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Bill has a good point. If he comes back and is not the same then they will say he is finished. This is his career, and though I would like to see him back I don't want him to end up like Penny Gilbert or Grant.

Rose is fooling himself if he thinks he'll come back like nothing ever happened. He's gonna struggle. It's just part of the process.
 

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MJ came back against the Bulls management wishes in 1985... and dropped 63 on the Celtics :beli:



True, True.

But who gives a fukk? :what:


Everyone in here is projecting their own emotions onto Rose. Nobody gives a fukk what you would do, because you aren't worth a 100 million dollars.

When he's ready, he'll play.

Management should have prepared to NOT have him all year, they fukked up... not him.
 

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Rose is fooling himself if he thinks he'll come back line nothing ever happened. He's gonna struggle. It's just part of the process.

I think he's expecting and/or hoping to work the kinks out during camp and pre-season. I wouldn't be shocked if he even tried to play in summer league. Like you said though, it won't work. He needs to get in a real competitive atmosphere for him to get back to normal.
 

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He won a MVP... :heh:

fukk outta here.



What the fukk is this based on? :mindblown:

Come on breh penny and g hill were supposed to be the new Jordan. They were Lebron before Lebron minus the freak athleticism.

Penny was better than Rose in every aspect of the game. Better shot, passer/playmaker as good handles for his size. He even had a nice post game.

Grant Hill was a triple double machine.

Rose is a nice guy and a role model but I question his heart. He's not tough like, say, Iverson or Isaiah was. But I hold him to a high standard like everyone else.
 

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if you havent played sports or torn a ligament in your body then stfu mufukas dont even watch or even play sports for fun be having opinions n shyt on wat athletes should risk their career n lives for these mufukin fake whisy washy as fans. wat if pooh does come back god forbid re-injure his knee again mufukas who said he should comeback gonna be saying "i told yall he should of waited til next season":aicmon::facepalm: dese casual fans aint shyt dese days its really all hate at the end of the day a young nikka with fame n wealth cant even go out club/party without sumbody talkin shyt about wat he need to do broke mufukas on dese social media goota sumtn to say and dont even know dese athletes at all want be acknowledge if they saw em in person
 

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I can tell most of y'all never even played sports or been hurt before. It usually takes around a year to just get back to NORMAL everyday things, not even thinking about ball. Rose should set his own timetable, why the fukk would he put his knees in the hands of someone else? :why:

But I do say that he should have had a different role this year. Like a face of the franchise or 'assistant coach' or something like that. I only saw dude on the bench at games like four times

Playing football in the school gym 1999 a fat nikka stepped on my foot and I sprained my ankle....time wuz running out....so much pain:why: what did I do?I stayed in the game,caught one hail mary touch down and another diving one handed catch and we won the game:obama:....but if Derrick Rose wants to sit on the sidelines and watch hi temates go out like soldiers and show all the heart:manny:....his team said he wuz ok months ago,do they doctors not know wtf they talkin about THAT much?

At this point I agree tho,if he ain't come back by now it ain't no point tryna come back just to get tossed by the heat.....if the injury in his head that serious just sit it out til next season when your confidence is back.
 

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I respect you and your opinion, but derrick rose has YET to put up the same kind of numbers a HEALTHY arenas did. The only stat i would say is assists.....Rose averaged one more assist than gilly but thats it.

Gilly averaged 29.3 points on a playoff team that had 3 20point scorers. while shooting 45%. Dude had more game winners in that 3yr span than anyone in the league. NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE could stop Gilbert Arenas. Nobody. Now i don't know what you were watching around 2004-2007 but gilbert arenas was elite.....call it what you want.


Top players in the league from 2004-2007

Kobe
Iverson
LEbron
Gilbert
Wade

:beli:

Tim Duncan says hi.
 
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