Billboard: ‘Is Hip-Hop’s Dominance Slipping?’ “My Concern Is the Magic Is Gone” says Carl Chery

[Awesome Wells]

Pushing garbage catching up.

This here.

It was bound to happen. Raise the standard.

 

[Surreal]

This here.

It was bound to happen. Raise the standard.

They're gonna throw and hide their hands

Being dope is corny unless you play gay

 

[Sad Bunny]

Everyone trash nowadays.

These new rappers all suck.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

This here.

It was bound to happen. Raise the standard.

Are yall cats actually reading the stats/numbers posted in the thread? Nothing happened. The writer of that article basically made a clickbait article that the numbers at that time and at years end, only showed how silly the article was.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don’t like putting all black artists in the same box. Yes hip hop style beats became the dominant sound for uptempo R&B ( even though most of those beats were sampled from funk/Disco and soul records) but R&B ballads dominated in the 90s as well. It wasn’t just straight “hip hop”

All "black" music isn't lumped together. Jazz, Blues, Gospel etc.. are still singular marketing blocks.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Are yall cats actually reading the stats/numbers posted in the thread? Nothing happened. The writer of that article basically made a clickbait article that the numbers at that time and at years end, only showed how silly the article was.

If you don’t think anything's "happened" to the quality of Hip Hop music in the past 20-25 years, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

If you don’t think anything's "happened" to the quality of Hip Hop music in the past 20-25 years, I don’t know what to tell you.

Thread/article wasn't about the quality of the music; it was about its consumption/market share. Did you not read the article?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Thread/article wasn't about the quality of the music; it was about it's consumption/market share. Did you not read the article?

I read it. And just like everyone else has said a million times in here, the quality and how people are pretending to be more successful than they actually are has killed the culture. Fake stats and certifications. The whole model is false now. Something has definitely happened. And it's shifted how we even speak about Hip Hop and who the actual winners are. So to say "nothing's happened", that's off. Mad sh*t has shifted. And not in a good way.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I read it. And just like everyone else has said a million times in here, the quality and how people are pretending to be more successful than they actually are has killed the culture. Fake stats and certifications. The whole model is false now. Something has definitely happened. And it's shifted how we even speak about Hip Hop and who the actual winners are. So to say "nothing's happened", that's off. Mad sh*t has shifted. And not in a good way.

dude, the article is about its market share, not about the quality of the culture....in the end, it showed it still had no competition

 

[L $ C]

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/this-is-the-most-stale-the-game-has-ever-been-ive-never-seen-it-like-this.956381/page-2

to me the temperature in the room has changed the last 2 years....it isnt a me getting older thing either, something has just happend its lost its luster...hip hop is in a bad spot

 

[Awesome Wells]

dude, the article is about it's market share, not about the quality of the culture....in the end, it showed it still had no competition

How are you missing the point?

Look at the actual sales. For Hip Hop. Now compare that to where they were two decades ago. Now look at Rock. No one is buying Hip Hop sh*t anymore because the quality is sh*t. Everyone is rushing to throw albums on streaming services, with little to no actual investment by labels, and no share of the publishing that comes from digital media platforms. That is literally what a cultural shift is. People are not spending their money on the culture anymore. They are listening for FREE. So you have all these "platinum" artists, who aren't even selling records, nor are they being compensated properly for the music they're releasing that's basically being mostly streamed.

Hip Hop and R&B are the genres that have taken the biggest hit with this. And that's because of how these deals are set-up by the labels. Which all goes back to what kind of music they can make and be promoted. Quality sh*t isn't being made, so people aren't spending money anymore. The numbers are right there for you.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I see no issue because the R&B since/starting in the New Jack Swing era has basically adopted all of the qualities of HipHop/HipHop production to the point that the separation is very minimal. Now, if we're talking traditional Soul/Funk? I would agree that the grouping of the two, makes no sense.

You're an idiot

 

[Harry B]

dude, the article is about it's market share, not about the quality of the culture....in the end, it showed it still had no competition

It would be interesting to see new music/old music rankings. Old as in like latest 5 years and over 5 years

 

[MasterThought]

I barely pay attention to rap now and I'm somebody whose been obsessed with it for damn near my entire life.

New rap sucks and even the rap I grew up listening to doesn't resonate with who I am as a person now. I can't get with the subject matter anymore and I'm even to the point where I don't like profanity (especially the Nword) in my music.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Something has to change honestly. It just feels like the Hiphop community is just kicking the can down the road. Like this shyt is falling off and nothing is really being done about it. You know it’s bad when people will say a rapper is the hottest in the game then be like he/she fell off in the same year or within a two to three year period. Also there’s the sad thing of potential hiphop stars dying. Something has to be done man.