Black barbershops being lied on again.

[Maxine Shaw]

Sounds like a statement you should direct to the show writers.

Oooh, BURN honey!

 

[mbewane]

One of the things I find funny is as gross as the media portrays men, we really don't go into graphic details about our exploits.

If someone started talking about shooting their load, they'd get told to shut up.

In my life, I have only heard women go into that type of detail so it is a bit ironic to see actions they're known to commit, attributed to black males and packaged as toxic masculinity.

Facts. This is something that I've never understood. Men may/will brag about how many women they slept with and how good looking those women are, but that's mostly as far as it goes. Most men don't really like being graphic. From what I understand woman talk about sex A LOT more than men.

 

[audemarzz]

Oooh, BURN honey!

Damn I remember when my auntie compared a man to "men on film" - when the skit was still fresh.

Daughters, wife, "kids mother(s)", sisters, and cousins already ran everything you can say into the ground. It is 2021, you're gonna have to come up with something new.

 

[Maxine Shaw]

Damn I remember when my auntie compared a man to "men on film" - when the skit was still fresh.

Daughters, wife, "kids mother(s)", sisters, and cousins already ran everything you can say into the ground. It is 2021, you're gonna have to come up with something new.

Mm-kay. #blocked

 

[TheNig]

and you had people on here saying they were going to watch this show in a thread a few days ago.

I try to give all black shows a shot. But I'm starting to feel like what's the point. It's like they try too hard to give white America a glimpse of our reality but the message seems to continually come from the same group of people that felt like they didn't belong to the community to begin with. When that happens, it leaves us misrepresented and others misinformed.

At this point I'd rather watch black people in some action/adventure shyt than what keeps coming in TV. That would be more believable than some of these faux real life scenarios in these shows.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

"As a cis black man, here is why this take on a queer black woman's experience in a predominantly male space is wrong..."

I rocked a very short fade for a VERY short time in college b/c I hated going to the shops. (Edited: This was back around 20 years ago.) Nothing this overt (it's called HYPERBOLE, dumb asses), but it was rarely comfortable and occasionally quite hostile, ESPECIALLY if somebody thought I was gay. I had to make sure that I appeared feminine - glasses, earrings, makeup, etc - to be treated respectfully. But if I was coming from swim practice or kickboxing? The temperature definitely dropped a few notches.

The best I could hope for was dead silence. I SWEAR some dudes act like they can't talk to a woman about anything but shyt related to men. ("So does your man like your short hair?" "I wouldn't be dating no girl who thinks she can beat me up...") So they sulk and whine later about how "you can't talk to these females, man..."

You know I like your style bae

 

[Originalman]

lmao she just retweeted this.

this is who this Harlem () shyt was made for

All that was missing was her doing a black fist emoji and saying I can relate to the struggles of these wonderful black women on the show...

 

[Mastamimd]

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1OdJrBdWdDvJX

Space talking about it right now...an actual productive one as well

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Apparently it's not the end of the discussion. Deal.



Are you KIDDING? They do! All the time! Every one of these cookie cutter shows is all about how successful black women sit around and cry about men. The only differences they added a gay woman this time - and half of her time is wasted eith a white woman. And of course, the fat woman is ALLLLLWAYS oversexed and vulgar.

Is that not what they do?

It’s well known that it’s most of y’all’s conversations. Women literally take advice from other women on men and it usually tends to be the wrong advice. And Honestly, you all tend to get much more vulgar and emotional about it than the average man.

Most your music is about men, clothes to get attention from men, complaints are about men. Honestly, at a black male barbershop, women come up but not NEARLY as much as yall think.

I say this all the time too, most times I don’t got nothing to talk about with a man except sports and business. Relationship talk is strictly for homies or myself if needed.

And what shows?

 

[HarlemHottie]

“Hyperbole” or not, that shyt ain’t a representation of Black barbershop culture and grown Black men. End of discussion. Would you have this same energy if they painted Black hair salon culture and grown Black women in the same “hyperbolic” light?

Oh I see where you're coming from NOW

Mm-kay. #blocked

Don't bother with @Maxine Shaw, she blocked me too. She pop a lot of shyt and, soon as you return a fraction of the energy, she blocks you. A clear sign of a fragile ideology.

 

[Piff Perkins]

What are you guy's experiences with women in the shop? My barber has one regular woman client who I've seen many times in there over the last decade for so. She comes in and while the conversations can be ignorant, they aren't profane. I've seen subjects changed pretty quickly when she walked in, or language softened.

The more common interactions are mothers coming in with their sons. So you have a woman plus a child meaning the already low chance of hearing profanity increases even more. If there's any fukkery it's the guys light heartedly making fun of the son, or gassing him up lol ("your mom gonna have to fight the girls off you now, with that haircut!"). Light shyt.

Honestly the only uncomfortable interaction I've seen with woman at a shop involves my barber's daughter. He has a regular who gives her money whenever she comes in, on some "here you go young lady" steez. I just always found that weird personally, and always wondered what my barber thinks about seeing an older man hand his daughter money. She must be in her early 20s now and I've been seeing this happen since she was like 15 or so, from the same guy. Dunno maybe you guys don't think it's weird, maybe my barber doesn't think it's weird. But it just makes me cringe. That's LITERALLY the only weird shyt I've seen in terms of direct interaction with a woman, across two decades of shop visits.

 

[Originalman]

What are you guy's experiences with women in the shop? My barber has one regular woman client who I've seen many times in there over the last decade for so. She comes in and while the conversations can be ignorant, they aren't profane. I've seen subjects changed pretty quickly when she walked in, or language softened.

The more common interactions are mothers coming in with their sons. So you have a woman plus a child meaning the already low chance of hearing profanity increases even more. If there's any fukkery it's the guys light heartedly making fun of the son, or gassing him up lol ("your mom gonna have to fight the girls off you now, with that haircut!"). Light shyt.

Honestly the only uncomfortable interaction I've seen with woman at a shop involves my barber's daughter. He has a regular who gives her money whenever she comes in, on some "here you go young lady" steez. I just always found that weird personally, and always wondered what my barber thinks about seeing an older man hand his daughter money. She must be in her early 20s now and I've been seeing this happen since she was like 15 or so, from the same guy. Dunno maybe you guys don't think it's weird, maybe my barber doesn't think it's weird. But it just makes me cringe. That's LITERALLY the only weird shyt I've seen in terms of direct interaction with a woman, across two decades of shop visits.

Breh at my barber show there are tons of women who come in with their kids. There is also a female barber and there is also lesbian clients who come in.

Sexual language and profanity is not tolerated and there is a sign in there that says no cursing. Also my previous barber was a sista.

But you know this new hollywood and their new black bootlickers ain't gonna mention the diversity of the black barber shop. You know female barbers, elders, young folks and etc in there at one time.

Basically now with black shows they have replaced entertaining and educating for entertaining and showing the most negative stereotypes of black folks. In an effort "To Keep it Real".

Difference between these bull shyt shows and rap is for 30 years raps "Keeping it Real" has been called out for stereotypes. But this new black hollywood shows the last 7 to 8 years have not been called out for these stereotypes and ignorance.

 

[Dark Knyght]

I said this in the other thread too, but Im assuming the barbershop scene just was just a one off and the show doesn’t explore or resolve the topic on its own. It’s just poor writing. It shyts on black men in two different narratives, the one dude being offensive to black women and/or gay people and the other dude not protecting black women or addressing their concerns.

The essential problem is that a lesson of tolerance, inclusion or protection wasn’t being taught here. Therefore the takeaway from the scene is that if your gay, you gonna get shytted on in the black heterosexual barbershop, so basically don’t go there.

Harlem is a real place, not fictional. So by watching the show I should expect this behavior in a Harlem barbershop. Last I checked Harlem was by far the most fashion flamboyant of the communities in nyc. Most dykes / AGs hang out with nikkaz anyway, so where’s that depiction of inclusion and tolerance. AGs go to the regular barbershop for line ups etc. This show missed me with that bullshyt.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Don't bother with @Maxine Shaw, she blocked me too. She pop a lot of shyt and, soon as you return a fraction of the energy, she blocks you. A clear sign of a fragile ideology.

Sounds familiar.. and weak

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Uh-huh. All the women and queer people sharing our stories are lying because...because...because why? (Although I should have made it clear that this back in the early 00's - I know how sensitive some of you brehs are.)

Honestly you are.

All the black men in here have been going to black barbershops all of our lives. You and the people who wrote this show have not.


Atlanta had more of an accurate account of a black barbershop than anything you and these queer people have