Black barbershops being lied on again.

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Man, women come in all the time for a cut. There’s a lesbian chick who is one of the barbers. My BM used to go to my shop when she rocked that low cut. She was nervous at first, so she had me come in with her. Grown men can sense an uncomfortable woman, so they made sure to keep it respectful when she came through. It’s always been that way when ladies and children come through. We’ll play music, but they only play the edited version, as the owner is a hip middle aged black man.

It’s funny, we do some drinking at my shop. It’s this lady that brings in beers every Friday and sits and drinks with us all. She works for a beer company. There’s another woman that comes in and sells her homemade drink mixes. I got the henny and tea last weekend. She chops it up, and I’ve never seen it get outta line.
 

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There is no nuance in discussing stuff on anedoctal basis when it comes too internet, You have people who have conflated their experience as the entire experience, and people who outside talking about what they see in it. An experience can be true, but not a rule.
 

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One of the things I find funny is as gross as the media portrays men, we really don't go into graphic details about our exploits.

If someone started talking about shooting their load, they'd get told to shut up.

In my life, I have only heard women go into that type of detail so it is a bit ironic to see actions they're known to commit, attributed to black males and packaged as toxic masculinity.
It's projection
 

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I said this in the other thread too, but Im assuming the barbershop scene just was just a one off and the show doesn’t explore or resolve the topic on its own. It’s just poor writing. It shyts on black men in two different narratives, the one dude being offensive to black women and/or gay people and the other dude not protecting black women or addressing their concerns.

The essential problem is that a lesson of tolerance, inclusion or protection wasn’t being taught here. Therefore the takeaway from the scene is that if your gay, you gonna get shytted on in the black heterosexual barbershop, so basically don’t go there.

Harlem is a real place, not fictional. So by watching the show I should expect this behavior in a Harlem barbershop. Last I checked Harlem was by far the most fashion flamboyant of the communities in nyc. Most dykes / AGs hang out with nikkaz anyway, so where’s that depiction of inclusion and tolerance. AGs go to the regular barbershop for line ups etc. This show missed me with that bullshyt.

The problem with shows like this is the acting sucks and the writers have no talent. So to keep interest and get the show trending they use low level stereotypes. It's how now a days shows have garbage writers so they add a lot of sex, profanity and violence to keep the interest up.

My biggest issue with these shows is that these new black actors have no awareness now a days. For every Chad boseman (rest his soul) who would stand up and say naw I want to make sure we as black people are presented in a 3D not 1D light and push back on producers and writers. You got clown black actors who will buck dance and play any ignorant role for a dollar.

Them days of actors like Ester Rolle, Diahann Carroll, Robert Guillaum, John Amos, Robert townsend, Avery Brooks, Carl Lumby, Debbie Allen, Tim Reid, Lavar Burton and etc working in hollywood and actually caring about how black folks were represented on TV/represented and pushing back are long gone. These new blacks in hollywood would lift they skirts up and bend over to the white bosses before they would push back on the black stereotypes and say hey man let's not do that or say I think that's insensitive to black folks.

Nope their motto is to bend that ass over and spread them cheeks for a dollar.
 

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Man, women come in all the time for a cut. There’s a lesbian chick who is one of the barbers. My BM used to go to my shop when she rocked that low cut. She was nervous at first, so she had me come in with her. Grown men can sense an uncomfortable woman, so they made sure to keep it respectful when she came through. It’s always been that way when ladies and children come through. We’ll play music, but they only play the edited version, as the owner is a hip middle aged black man.

It’s funny, we do some drinking at my shop. It’s this lady that brings in beers every Friday and sits and drinks with us all. She works for a beer company. There’s another woman that comes in and sells her homemade drink mixes. I got the henny and tea last weekend. She chops it up, and I’ve never seen it get outta line.

All this. Man my wife use to go with me to the barber shop. My youngest use to go with me to the barber shop and sit and wait for me while she looked at kid videos YouTube. I would always go on Saturdays and tons of men and women would be there with their kids like me with my daughter.

Ain't no barber in his right mind gonna talk like that at the shop out in the open. Dude would immediately tank his clientele.
 

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Most of y’all barely talk to your barbers so of course that clip is bullshyt to y’all :francis:.


I’ve been going to the same barber for almost 10 yrs. He’s almost like family. When I’m in the chair we talk about women:yeshrug:. Just not loud enough for the whole damn shop to hear.
 

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Errr, I can't really add much here. But I'm from the UK, went to two main barbershops through my life, I can honestly say that NONE of that shyt depicted in the video would ever happen here, simply cus we tend to know the woman/women that come in there, and being vulgar is generally a good way to get kicked out regardless as children are normally present. The most "vulgar" it might get is a few reggae songs that get played, but that's it.

Something tells me that the same is true of most American folks too, I don't/can't imagine some of the more rational heads in here talking bout skeeting down a womans chest in front of no woman or child. Heck, you guys don't even do it here, and I can't even see your faces
 

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Most of y’all barely talk to your barbers so of course that clip is bullshyt to y’all :francis:.


I’ve been going to the same barber for almost 10 yrs. He’s almost like family. When I’m in the chair we talk about women:yeshrug:. Just not loud enough for the whole damn shop to hear.

Yeah but, are you THAT graphic with it? That dudes description read like a porn video title.
 

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Yeah but, are you THAT graphic with it? That dudes description read like a porn video title.
Sometimes. Depends on the convo :manny:.

I definitely talked about having a broad I was with that squirts and head
 

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That's not what I say on here often.

My question is where is this same energy for rap that celebrates the death of Black men, why is THAT entertainment but a barbershop scene is where the line must be drawn, why isn't this also entertainment?

Who are you talking to? Cuz I haven't listened to hip hop in years, and I've said it on here.

Since I turned off the music cuz of its monetized black trauma and dysfunction, have I passed the test to be able to call this whole scene amateurish and ill conceived?

Just a caricature of black misogyny, male weakness and homophobia.

They either don't give our best the chances to create or our best is basura.
I saw this promo'd on Amazon n wanted to support but I'm not gonna support poorly characterized trash.

If they want Insecure remixed on Amazon, this isn't it. Especially since they missed the point of the casting.
 

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Who are you talking to? Cuz I haven't listened to hip hop in years, and I've said it on here.

Since I turned off the music cuz of its monetized black trauma and dysfunction, have I passed the test to be able to call this whole scene amateurish and ill conceived?

Just a caricature of black misogyny, male weakness and homophobia.

They either don't give our best the chances to create or our best is basura.
I saw this promo'd on Amazon n wanted to support but I'm not gonna support poorly characterized trash.

If they want Insecure remixed on Amazon, this isn't it. Especially since they missed the point of the casting.

The scene is objectively bad no one here disagrees, read more of the responses, it's less about poor writing and more about this idea that the writers are intentionally trying to advance an agenda that is harmful to Black men specifically.
 
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