went to montbello when i was younger.... that shyt was crip central......all them nikkas sounded like ice t to me
got a gang of cousin in denver the hood side was in montbello shyt was crazy as hell
Black Cities of The West...
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got a gang of cousin in denver the hood side was in montbello shyt was crazy as hell
murksiderock
Superstar
The most recent 2024 estimates for the Black Bay Area, source below:
•Oakland 82,238 (18.5%), -10.2% since 2020
•San Francisco 41,300 (5%), -7.3%
•San Jose 31,136 (3.1%), +13.5%
•Vallejo 21,211 (17.2%), -13.2%
•Antioch 17,829 (15.1%), -24.8%
•Richmond 17,493 (15.2%), -19.58%
•Pittsburg 15,999 (20.7%), +28.6%
•Hayward 13,049 (8.2%), -6.8%
•Berkeley 10,586 (8.7%), -2.8%
•Daly City 3503 (3.5%), +48.4%
•East Palo Alto 1875 (6.4%), -41.2%
•Marin City 741 (20.6%), -6.7%
The Bay in total, has a black community of 418,432, which is down 3.7% from 2020's 434,686 black people; this accounts for 5.5% of The Bay's overall population.
A silver lining here, is that there are still some black people staying in The Bay, as evidenced by black population growth in Daly City, Pittsburg, and San Jose. But more people are leaving than moving elsewhere in the region.
I would say majority of Bay movers are going to the Sacramento/San Joaquin Valley, as well as to Nevada (both Vegas and Reno have a TON of Bay transplants), but plenty Bay natives are and have headed back south.
•Oakland 82,238 (18.5%), -10.2% since 2020
•San Francisco 41,300 (5%), -7.3%
•San Jose 31,136 (3.1%), +13.5%
•Vallejo 21,211 (17.2%), -13.2%
•Antioch 17,829 (15.1%), -24.8%
•Richmond 17,493 (15.2%), -19.58%
•Pittsburg 15,999 (20.7%), +28.6%
•Hayward 13,049 (8.2%), -6.8%
•Berkeley 10,586 (8.7%), -2.8%
•Daly City 3503 (3.5%), +48.4%
•East Palo Alto 1875 (6.4%), -41.2%
•Marin City 741 (20.6%), -6.7%
The Bay in total, has a black community of 418,432, which is down 3.7% from 2020's 434,686 black people; this accounts for 5.5% of The Bay's overall population.
A silver lining here, is that there are still some black people staying in The Bay, as evidenced by black population growth in Daly City, Pittsburg, and San Jose. But more people are leaving than moving elsewhere in the region.
I would say majority of Bay movers are going to the Sacramento/San Joaquin Valley, as well as to Nevada (both Vegas and Reno have a TON of Bay transplants), but plenty Bay natives are and have headed back south.
murksiderock
Superstar
Yeah Montbello is in Northeast and Montbello is 18.3% black. I was fukking around with a chick right up the street from Montbello in Green Valley Ranch (GVR), which is 29.8% black.
Montbello still Crip heavy, "Bello Crips". Park Hill is Blood heavy. I fukk with Denver and its still on my permanent relocation list.
I stay shyttin on Seattle, but after being in and out of it for a decade, you gotta put it last on the list… even underneath Portland. The most docile disconnected negroes you’ll ever meet reside in Seattle. The black population and people of color in general place whiteness on a pedestal to the likes you wouldn’t believe. And much of the black population are east African immigrants obsessed with assimilating into whiteness.
Seattle is bedwench central. My wife (Pakistani/ Indian) had an extensive group of female friends of color, and every single one of them was with an unimpressive cac but them chicks acted like they won the lottery. My wife eventually had to leave that group alone. Some years back I was talking to some Seahawks brehs in a club in Bellevue, and every Black/ Asian/ Latina chick was walking right past them to aggressively swoon over school shooter looking cacs.
Seattle is a city to attain economic prosperity and then dip. But if you’re looking for that soulful and enriching black experience it ain’t it. Nikkas won’t even give you the head nod, and the bedwenches will treat you with outright contempt. Even you “safe” negroes.
Seattle is bedwench central. My wife (Pakistani/ Indian) had an extensive group of female friends of color, and every single one of them was with an unimpressive cac but them chicks acted like they won the lottery. My wife eventually had to leave that group alone. Some years back I was talking to some Seahawks brehs in a club in Bellevue, and every Black/ Asian/ Latina chick was walking right past them to aggressively swoon over school shooter looking cacs.
Seattle is a city to attain economic prosperity and then dip. But if you’re looking for that soulful and enriching black experience it ain’t it. Nikkas won’t even give you the head nod, and the bedwenches will treat you with outright contempt. Even you “safe” negroes.
murksiderock
Superstar
Even in South Seattle proper (18.5% black) and South King County cities like SeaTac 30.7%; Tukwila 22.4%; Federal Way 18.5%; Boulevard Park 16.8%; White Center 13.9%; Kent 11.5%; Renton 10%; Des Moines 9.2%; Covington 7.9%; Burien 7.6%;
Even in these areas you don't think you can have an enriching black experience?
All of these cities besides Covington and Renton are along that I-5 corridor, south of Seattle, and are contiguous and heavily populated with black residents, it just seems like there should be some authentic black culture in this area.
Originally lived right off MLK in south Seattle when I first came out here, and worked in Renton and Tukwila for a bit. I stand by what I originally wrote. Can’t speak on other areas you listed, but it’s all the same culture (Tacoma has a black population, but they seem stuck in the 90s with their slang and demeanor).
In Seattle You’ll have black folks with BLM shirts and posting “woke” content on social media, but will exclusively date cacs and try to build their social circle around white people. Everything is very performative.
It’s hard to find a decent barber, hearty seasoned food, and people with Black humor or who understand certain references. In a city with this population, these are not things that should have to be searched for. They should just be your experience as you leave your door and navigate through the city. They live in a silo and when you point out their disconnection to the rest of Black America they can’t process what you’re talking about.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
Marin City Ca
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
murksiderock
Superstar
Also, all these hoods have a decimated black population today, but besides Potrero Hill, are all still really black for San Francisco:
Bayview-Hunters Point 23.8% black
Fillmore 10.9%
Lakeview 8.6%
Sunnydale 6.5%
SoMa 6.1%
Potrero Hill 3.5%
murksiderock
Superstar
The 2024 ACS figures just dropped, so over the next week or so I'm updating the blacker neighborhoods and districts of The West.
murksiderock
Superstar
Off the rip, just to break everybody off with what the data says specifically regarding Los Angeles and Oakland, the two historic black cities of The West...
@BrothaZay
Los Angeles
This link directly provides the information that, as of 2024, Los Angeles city is estimated to have a population of 316,335 people who identify as "black alone"; and a total black population of 392,938 people who identify as some mix of black, whether alone or in combo:
Using only the "black alone" population, LA is 8.2% black. But many of us here have lived among black people our whole lives and are black ourselves, there are 76,603 people in LA who have a nonblack parent but still self-report/identify with their blackness, and those of us who are black, know plenty of black people who have a nonblack parent.
Using total black population, Los Angeles is 10.1% black.
The following site uses the ACS data directly from the above Census site, and breaks every place in America all the way down to the census tract and block group, so that you can map out streets, neighborhoods, sections of cities, etc:
censusreporter.org
So what that site helped me conclude, is that 61% of Black Angelenos live in South Central. South Central currently has a population of 801,181, of which, 193,003 people identify as "black alone"; and a total black population of 239,740.
For the percentage nerds, this means South Central is still today, 24.1% black alone; and 29.9% black, if counting all the black people in South Central total.
I also broke this down further, 75.2% of black people in South Central live on the Westside, 24.8% live on the Eastside. The Westside has a population of 429,088, of which 145,138 people are "black alone", which is makes the Westside 33.8% black alone; the Eastside of South Central, has a population of 372,093, of which 47,865 people are "black alone", making the Eastside 12.9% black alone.
The total black population on the Westside, is 180,285, making the Westside 42% black; and the Eastside's total black population is 59,456, or 16% of the Eastside population.
Also, View Park/Windsor Hills is 71.9% black; Leimert Park is still 66% black; Gramercy Park is 63% black; Manchester Square is 59.7% black; Ladera Heights is 55.1% black; Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw is 52% black; Hyde Park is 51.4% black; and West Athens is 50.2% black. These are still majority black neighborhoods in the city of Los Angeles, in South Central, on the Westside, with still other hoods that are 40%+ black, and 30%+ black.
Oakland
Using this link:
Oakland has 82,238 people who identify as "black alone"; and a total of 97,322 people who call themselves black in some shape or form.
This means that Oakland is 18.5% black alone; and 21.9% black in total.
Using the same following link:
censusreporter.org
You're able to map out Oakland blocks, neighborhoods, sections. Similar to South Central, the majority of Black Oaklanders (67.2%) live in East Oakland;
East Oakland has an overall population of 306,949. 55,241 of those people are "black alone", or 18% of East Oakland's population; while 65,400 black people total are in East Oakland, or 21.3% of East Oakland.
You can break this down further: 68.3% of Black East Oaklanders live in The Flatlands. The Flatlands has a population of 209,586, of which 37,730 are "black alone", or 18% black alone in The Flatlands; and 44,668 total black people, or 21.3% black total in The Flatlands.
And the ESO Hills has a population of 97,363, of which 17,511 are "black alone", which is 18% black; and 20,732 total black people, or 21.3% black total in The ESO Hills.
A major difference between Oakland and LA, is while East Oakland is the largest community of blackness in Oakland (like how South Central is to LA), it isn't the blackest section of Oakland---->West Oakland is 37.1% black alone, and 43.9% black in total. But West Oakland has a tiny population and geography compared to East Oakland. Also, North Oakland and Downtown Oakland have large black populations.
Also unlike South Central, while East Oakland has the largest black population, there are no majority black neighborhoods anymore in East Oakland.
@BrothaZay
Los Angeles
This link directly provides the information that, as of 2024, Los Angeles city is estimated to have a population of 316,335 people who identify as "black alone"; and a total black population of 392,938 people who identify as some mix of black, whether alone or in combo:
Using only the "black alone" population, LA is 8.2% black. But many of us here have lived among black people our whole lives and are black ourselves, there are 76,603 people in LA who have a nonblack parent but still self-report/identify with their blackness, and those of us who are black, know plenty of black people who have a nonblack parent.
Using total black population, Los Angeles is 10.1% black.
The following site uses the ACS data directly from the above Census site, and breaks every place in America all the way down to the census tract and block group, so that you can map out streets, neighborhoods, sections of cities, etc:
Census profile: Census Tract 7031, Los Angeles, CA
Census data for Census Tract 7031, Los Angeles, CA (pop. 5,584), including age, race, sex, income, poverty, marital status, education and more.
censusreporter.org
So what that site helped me conclude, is that 61% of Black Angelenos live in South Central. South Central currently has a population of 801,181, of which, 193,003 people identify as "black alone"; and a total black population of 239,740.
For the percentage nerds, this means South Central is still today, 24.1% black alone; and 29.9% black, if counting all the black people in South Central total.
I also broke this down further, 75.2% of black people in South Central live on the Westside, 24.8% live on the Eastside. The Westside has a population of 429,088, of which 145,138 people are "black alone", which is makes the Westside 33.8% black alone; the Eastside of South Central, has a population of 372,093, of which 47,865 people are "black alone", making the Eastside 12.9% black alone.
The total black population on the Westside, is 180,285, making the Westside 42% black; and the Eastside's total black population is 59,456, or 16% of the Eastside population.
Also, View Park/Windsor Hills is 71.9% black; Leimert Park is still 66% black; Gramercy Park is 63% black; Manchester Square is 59.7% black; Ladera Heights is 55.1% black; Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw is 52% black; Hyde Park is 51.4% black; and West Athens is 50.2% black. These are still majority black neighborhoods in the city of Los Angeles, in South Central, on the Westside, with still other hoods that are 40%+ black, and 30%+ black.
Oakland
Using this link:
Oakland has 82,238 people who identify as "black alone"; and a total of 97,322 people who call themselves black in some shape or form.
This means that Oakland is 18.5% black alone; and 21.9% black in total.
Using the same following link:
Census profile: Census Tract 4092, Alameda, CA
Census data for Census Tract 4092, Alameda, CA (pop. 3,785), including age, race, sex, income, poverty, marital status, education and more.
censusreporter.org
You're able to map out Oakland blocks, neighborhoods, sections. Similar to South Central, the majority of Black Oaklanders (67.2%) live in East Oakland;
East Oakland has an overall population of 306,949. 55,241 of those people are "black alone", or 18% of East Oakland's population; while 65,400 black people total are in East Oakland, or 21.3% of East Oakland.
You can break this down further: 68.3% of Black East Oaklanders live in The Flatlands. The Flatlands has a population of 209,586, of which 37,730 are "black alone", or 18% black alone in The Flatlands; and 44,668 total black people, or 21.3% black total in The Flatlands.
And the ESO Hills has a population of 97,363, of which 17,511 are "black alone", which is 18% black; and 20,732 total black people, or 21.3% black total in The ESO Hills.
A major difference between Oakland and LA, is while East Oakland is the largest community of blackness in Oakland (like how South Central is to LA), it isn't the blackest section of Oakland---->West Oakland is 37.1% black alone, and 43.9% black in total. But West Oakland has a tiny population and geography compared to East Oakland. Also, North Oakland and Downtown Oakland have large black populations.
Also unlike South Central, while East Oakland has the largest black population, there are no majority black neighborhoods anymore in East Oakland.
Road20
All Star
I live in farm country near Modesto, Grayson and Vernalis were black farm towns in the 40's and 50's. Met some OG's who were born and raised there.